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> Our local Wal-Mart has a Taco Bell AND a McDonalds inside, does

 

that count?

 

 

 

In 30 years it might! LOL I know Target, Meijer and Wal-Mart have

 

dining...but something about those old discount stores. I just think

 

it's because they're old (now) and have that old look that does it,

 

like anything else. How different is this from enjoying the Holiday

 

Inn great sign? It was a chain too, but had a cool sign. It's neat

 

to see old Wal-Mart stores even.

 

 

 

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There's certainly the network of state routes that make up

 

the Great River Road along the Mississippi River in

 

Illinois, Vicki. I believe there is a parallel network on

 

the Missouri side of the river, too. Kinda out of the way

 

though.....you travel almost straight south in Illinois.

 

 

 

Another road that I've travelled is Mo. Rte. 94 west along

 

the Missouri River (goes along the old railroad right of

 

way that is now called Katy State Park)...it's very scenic

 

drive in the hills of eastern Missouri. Stop at a winery

 

or two, if you're so inclined. Either of those sound good

 

to you?

 

 

 

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Thanks for your input. I like the Rte. 94 alternative, because of the hills and

 

the railroad. I just might be inclined to visit the winery, too

 

 

 

thehinge@magpage.com wrote:There's certainly the network of state routes that

 

make up

 

the Great River Road along the Mississippi River in

 

Illinois, Vicki. I believe there is a parallel network on

 

the Missouri side of the river, too. Kinda out of the way

 

though.....you travel almost straight south in Illinois.

 

 

 

Another road that I've travelled is Mo. Rte. 94 west along

 

the Missouri River (goes along the old railroad right of

 

way that is now called Katy State Park)...it's very scenic

 

drive in the hills of eastern Missouri. Stop at a winery

 

or two, if you're so inclined. Either of those sound good

 

to you?

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> near future. I haven't been there for over 20 years.

 

> Anyhow, we live

 

> in the IL. Quad City Metro area (Moline, Rock Island). I

 

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Hi,

 

Carolyn and I made it back safe and sound from Albuquerque yesterday, July 1

 

at about 4:00 P.M. We had a wonderful trip and are soooo sad that it had

 

to come to an end. We both had a lot of "firsts" on this trip including two

 

big storms in two days in New Mexico. One on the west side of Albuquerque

 

just as we were taking pictures at Budville and the other the next day on

 

the east side at Moriarity, where it hailed so much it covered the ground

 

like snow. Needless to say we spent the night in Moriarity since we could

 

not drive in those conditions. Got some hail damage to my ..:-(

 

On Monday, June 26, another "first" was the drive on the pre-1937 loop

 

through Los Lunas and a visit to the Sky City Pueblo. We decided to spend

 

another night at the wonderfully restored Monterey "Non-Smokers" Motel in

 

Albuquerque. On Tuesday, June 26, the next "first" was the drive up to the

 

Sandia Crest (elevation 10,678 ft.), and the trip down the Turquoise Trail

 

on the east side of the Sandia Mountains. If you've never made this trip...

 

.do it! All I can say is, AWESOME!!!

 

These are just a sampling of the great times Carolyn and I experienced on

 

our trip to and from the event in Albuquerque. We totally loved spending

 

time with our old 66 "roadie" friends and very much enjoyed making new

 

friends. Can't wait for 2007 in Clinton, OK. God willing, I'll be there.

 

Love you all,

 

Fran in Cuba, MO.

 

P.S. We have recomendations for many dining and lodging establishments that

 

we visited first hand, but will do that later in another post.

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I ate many a time at the lunch counter at Woolworth's in the small Southern

 

Illinois town in which I grew up. It was a fairly large counter, running more

 

than half the length of the store. In addition to shoppers, the counter was

 

also used by high school students on the way home and in need of a cherry or

 

vanilla or lemon Coke and a plate of fries. I recall the waitresses (not

 

waitstaff) were death on *any* horseplay. Not as popular as a couple of the

 

local drug stores, but it would do in a pinch.

 

 

 

I also remember very large lunch counters in much larger Kresge's (predecessor

 

of Kmart) in St. Louis MO, Evansville IN, and other midwestern towns. There

 

were times when shoppers would stand in an informal line waiting for a seat to

 

open up.

 

 

 

It is an unhappy commentary on our history that the demise of these lunch

 

counters in some areas of our country was one of the results of the civil rights

 

movement in the 60s. Many chain "five-and-dimes" -- as well as mom-and-pop drug

 

stores -- closed their counters permanently, literally removing them, rather

 

than allow seating and service to blacks. Counterless, the five and dimes and

 

drug stores in the small towns I remember continued to serve their communities

 

for a while, and then the shopping centers, malls, and Walmarts drew virtually

 

all business away from downtown.

 

 

 

Bob

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Sorry, Laurel, but I'm thinking you might just be stuck keeping an eye on me

 

when I start using the word "Buffalo" (reference my June faux paux regarding

 

that herd up the road from you). If you drive on that return trip, be sure

 

to stop by. If you fly, please at least wave when you pass over Ohio.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: [mailto:laurelrk66@aol.com]

 

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:39 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US62

 

 

 

 

 

Denny,

 

 

 

Thanks for another one of your great trip reports, this time on your drive

 

through my old stomping grounds, Buffalo and Niagara Falls. Having lived

 

in

 

Buffalo twice "way back when", taught at a school up near Niagara Falls on

 

the

 

Love Canal (remember THAT fiasco?), and on weekends haunted the old steel

 

mill

 

sites in South Buffalo and Lackawanna with my camera, I fully appreciate the

 

nuances of your description of the US 62 as it pierces through that metro

 

area.

 

It's not much to look at in some places, but it's essentially unspoiled in

 

others. Buffalo is one of my very favorite cities in the whole world, and I

 

think one of the reasons is that the hardworking folks there seem to

 

appreciate

 

what they once had. They've stuck it out through area economic downturns,

 

and the city reflects their appreciation of the past. I haven't been back

 

there

 

for several years, but now I'm inspired to return soon. Thanks!

 

 

 

Laurel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If not in a big hurry take U S 67 south to the

 

Poplar Bluff are, then U S 60 west thru the Mark Twain

 

National Forest to Springfield, then U S 65 to

 

Branson.

 

 

 

Alternate - pick out sections of U S 66 between St.

 

Louis and Springfield. Would be a shorter route.

 

 

 

Safe and Happy Traveling.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- champaignminniegreen

 

<champaignminniegreen@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Hi Folks !!

 

>

 

> My name is Vicki, and I'm new to the group. I'm

 

> excited about hearing

 

> about your traveling experiences, as I am too an

 

> avid traveler.

 

>

 

> My husband and I are planning a trip to Branson

 

> Missouri in the very

 

> near future. I haven't been there for over 20 years.

 

> Anyhow, we live

 

> in the IL. Quad City Metro area (Moline, Rock

 

> Island). I would like to

 

> take a scenic route there. Does anyone know of the

 

> best route we could

 

> take? I'd love to hear from you.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Guest Denny Gibson

Really cool!! Where is "Town of Summer Place"? Is it really in someone's

 

yard?

 

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:29 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Pat & Jennifer's Route 66-themed wedding photos

 

 

 

 

 

Well, after much procrastination (about 2 years!), I finally put up

 

the photos from our Route 66-themed wedding up on my website for

 

those of you who might be interested. The honeymoon photos should be

 

forthcoming shortly!

 

 

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

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Fred,

 

 

 

Although it does now have steel guard rails, that section south-west of

 

Warren can still be evocative of older days. The same is true of the

 

Maysville-Cynthiana and Lawrenceburg-Bellville sections of US-62 in

 

Kentucky. I actually thought I remembered some parts of the KY road not

 

having edge lines but I can find no evidence of that in my pictures.

 

 

 

As for reporting on the trip, I won't do that here in any detail since what

 

I post on my web site is more or less a trip report. The first two pictures

 

at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt62east/day03/index.htm

 

are from Saturday's drive on that Warren-Sharon section and there are a

 

couple from May at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt6plus/day02/index.htm

 

(near bottom of page).

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Fred M. Cain [mailto:fredmcain@bringbackroute66.com]

 

Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:55 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Starting Down Sixty-Two

 

 

 

 

 

Denny,

 

 

 

I was once on the Sharon - Warren, PA stretch a number of years

 

ago. Was that ever a blast from the past! The best part was just

 

south and west of Warren. It looked like a U.S. Highway from the

 

1930's or '40's. The guard rails consisted of painted white posts

 

and cables - the kind you used to see many years ago. The roadway

 

was also very narrow. It's exactly these kinds of roadways that I

 

like to cite to show that U.S. Numbered Routes really don't have

 

any "minimum standards". Or, at least they don't appear to be

 

enforced if there are.

 

 

 

I hope you report back to us on your trip. I'd love to know if this

 

stretch of U.S. 62 still looks like it did in 1985!

 

 

 

-Fred M. Cain

 

 

 

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> US 62 didn't mean much to me couple of months ago. Then, in May, I

 

drove a

 

> stretch that crosses the OH-PA border and a stretch in KY about a

 

month

 

> later. Those were both very enjoyable drives and caused me to look

 

into just

 

> where this highway goes. Another business trip to Pennsylvania

 

gets me

 

> within striking distance of its eastern end so I'm heading for

 

Niagara Falls

 

> with plans to follow about a third of the route. Even though I've

 

only

 

> touched 62 briefly, I've been on my own time since noon yesterday

 

so I'm

 

> thinking the trip has started. Stuff leading US 62 is up at

 

> http://www.dennygibson.com/rt62east with more to follow.

 

>

 

> NEW WITH THIS TRIP:

 

>

 

> When I'm on a drive involving more that one day, my goal is to

 

make daily

 

> posting of my travels. Sometimes that's impossible and sometimes

 

it just

 

> doesn't happen even though it is, technically, possible. Plus,

 

when postings

 

> do occur, it is rarely at a predictable time of day. One

 

possibility of

 

> dealing with that is to send off an email message when a new page

 

gets

 

> posted and I'm going to try doing just that. But I know that not

 

everyone

 

> receiving this would welcome another piece of email (I'm sure that

 

some are

 

> not exactly pleased to get this one.) so the message will only be

 

sent to

 

> those who have "opted in" to a mailing list.

 

>

 

> There are actually two lists available. One is for those daily

 

posting

 

> announcements I spoke of. The other is for only messages like this

 

> announcing a trip start or end. The lists are easy to join and

 

just as easy

 

> to leave. All that is required is an email address. Just go to

 

> http://www.dennygibson.com/listmailer/?p=subscribe&id=1 and select

 

whichever

 

> list you prefer.

 

>

 

> Let's see if this thing works.

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Don't pooh-pooh Route 62.

 

Lots to do on Route 62.

 

Old and new on Route 62.

 

What a view on Route 62.

 

Pitch some woo on Route 62.

 

Sip a brew on route 62.

 

You can Yahoo! on Route 62.

 

Deja vu on Route 62.

 

Tried and true Route 62.

 

 

 

And, from a former variety show host:

 

 

 

A real big shew on Route 62.

 

 

 

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From: Alex Burr [mailto:hester_nec@yahoo.com]

 

Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:47 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US62

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you governor - somehow "Get your kicks on

 

Route 60" just doesn't quite make it. LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Jim Ross <pathfinder66@earthlink.net> wrote:

 

> R.V.,

 

>

 

> In the original numbering scheme, Kentucky was

 

> assigned US62 as the primary road in their state.

 

> Fields insisted that Kentucky be given US60 instead,

 

> a more prestigious number, which had already been

 

> assigned to the Chicago-Los Angeles road. It was a

 

> controversy that lasted almost a year as they

 

> battled over who was to not be stuck with the number

 

> 62. In the end, Fields got his way, leaving the

 

> Chicago-LA road to find a new number--namely 66.

 

>

 

> Jim R.

 

>

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--- Jennifer <jabremer66@aol.com> wrote:

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bob Worley wrote:

 

> > Our local Wal-Mart has a Taco Bell AND a McDonalds inside, does

 

> that count?

 

>

 

> In 30 years it might! LOL I know Target, Meijer and Wal-Mart have

 

> dining...but something about those old discount stores. I just think

 

> it's because they're old (now) and have that old look that does it,

 

> like anything else. How different is this from enjoying the Holiday

 

> Inn great sign? It was a chain too, but had a cool sign. It's neat

 

> to see old Wal-Mart stores even.

 

> Jennifer

 

 

 

Well Jennifer I was being sarcastic about the Wal-Mart ;) I wouldn't be

 

caught dead in one. Its my opinion that they are an evil corporate empire,

 

not unlike the Borg of Star Trek fame that invade planets (cities) and

 

assimilate the innocent citizens ("associates"? yea, right) into their

 

collective. But that's not the topic of this thread...

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Is that Don't pooh-pooh Route 62 - or did they leave a two letter word out of

 

it. LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:

 

Don't pooh-pooh Route 62.

 

Lots to do on Route 62.

 

Old and new on Route 62.

 

What a view on Route 62.

 

Pitch some woo on Route 62.

 

Sip a brew on route 62.

 

You can Yahoo! on Route 62.

 

Deja vu on Route 62.

 

Tried and true Route 62.

 

 

 

And, from a former variety show host:

 

 

 

A real big shew on Route 62.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Alex Burr [mailto:hester_nec@yahoo.com]

 

Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:47 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US62

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you governor - somehow "Get your kicks on

 

Route 60" just doesn't quite make it. LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Jim Ross <pathfinder66@earthlink.net> wrote:

 

> R.V.,

 

>

 

> In the original numbering scheme, Kentucky was

 

> assigned US62 as the primary road in their state.

 

> Fields insisted that Kentucky be given US60 instead,

 

> a more prestigious number, which had already been

 

> assigned to the Chicago-Los Angeles road. It was a

 

> controversy that lasted almost a year as they

 

> battled over who was to not be stuck with the number

 

> 62. In the end, Fields got his way, leaving the

 

> Chicago-LA road to find a new number--namely 66.

 

>

 

> Jim R.

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Bob Reynolds

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote:

 

> Wish I had known about the Ciderville Music Store when I stopped by the

 

> airplane station (or maybe not since it would surely have made me

 

late for

 

> where I was going:). That place looks as if it might be worth a trip

 

just by

 

> itself. Adding that rock station at US-70/Eaton would clinch it.

 

>

 

> I actually attended the Knoxville World's Fair (and endured the massive

 

> detours that preceded it) and I'm fairly sure it was not quite as

 

long ago

 

> as you claim in one of your captions (1882?).

 

>

 

> Thanks for the pix & info,

 

> Denny Gibson

 

> Cincinnati, OH

 

> www.DennyGibson.com

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

Oopsies! Looks like the typo monster got me:) It's been corrected:)

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Here in SE Michigan we used to have Korvettes and Federals. Also we had

 

5 & 10s called Ben Franklins.

 

Kresges was the progenitor of KMart, headquartered in Troy, MI.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:20:41 -0000 "Jennifer" <jabremer66@aol.com>

 

writes:

 

Anyone else have any discount department store memories?

 

 

 

Jennifer Bremer

 

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Guest Bob Reynolds

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote:

 

> Thanks for posting your link, RVD. I found myself on your site a couple

 

> of weeks ago and happened to look through your DH section. Little did I

 

> know the DH-West route is 2 blocks south of our house.

 

>

 

> Pat B.

 

> Speedway, IN

 

 

 

Pat, I grew up a block and a half from DH-West (US 41-76) in

 

Chattanooga (which, BTW, was the headquarter city for the DH).

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "R. Droz" <us98@e...> wrote:

 

> > Thought I'd add that there is more information on the Dixie Highway at

 

> > http://www.marion.ohio-state.edu/fac/schul...onal/dixie.html

 

> > and

 

> > http://www.us-highways.com/dixiehwy.htm

 

> > and

 

> > http://www.us-highways.com/tzimm/dixietzim.htm

 

> > - Does anyone know what happened to Thomas Zimmerman?

 

> > --

 

 

 

 

 

I've been using www.us-highways.com/dixiehighway as my guide.

 

Beyond that, I've used Microsoft Works atlas CD and my own intuition

 

to look for pieces of old alinement. I've had a blast ferreting out

 

these pieces of old road!

 

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> > Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, okydokey@a... wrote:

 

> Thanks very much for writing that on the Dixie highway, very

 

interesting! We live on the northen end and have just recently

 

discussed trying to travel parts of it to see what remains. We make

 

yearly trips to TN and just realized that 25W and such are the Dixie

 

Highway (we're rookies). Please write more, it is intriguing!

 

>

 

> Thanks,

 

>

 

> Jabba

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

Check out message #3343 for the links to Dixie Highway web pages.

 

http://www.us-highways.com/dixiehwy.htm is *the* place to start

 

planning a Dixie Highway Trip.

 

 

 

BTW, which northern end do you mean? Chicago or Sault Ste. Marie?:)

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In a message dated 7/14/05 10:01:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 

Ypsi-slim@juno.com writes:

 

For example, in Michigan there was a loop between St. Ignace and Sault

 

Ste Marie, with east

 

and west routes

 

====================================================================

 

I thought the highway between those two points was US 2, now I-75. US 2

 

definitely does not go to Dixie. LOL. Did it have another number?

 

 

 

Tom Hoffman

 

Pearisburg VA

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Greetings Fellow Roadies!

 

 

 

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Guest MJI Brower

Harmon wrote:

 

 

 

> I ate many a time at the lunch counter at Woolworth's in the small

 

> Southern Illinois town in which I grew up.

 

 

 

There was still a lunch counter at the Woolworth's in the Southland

 

shopping center in Tulsa as late as the 70s... maybe even the 80s. By

 

that time in my life it was cooler to hang out across the street at

 

Southroads, so I missed the demise of the lunch counter; one day I just

 

noticed it wasn't there anymore. Southland was an actual shopping

 

center, where you went outside and walked down the sidewalk to get from

 

store to store (now it's just another mall--the Promenade). At Christmas

 

they had displays with mechanical ice skaters and things like that. I

 

seem to recall a skating penguin.

 

 

 

At the closest mall to me now (coincidentally, it's on Rt. 62--Niagara

 

Falls Boulevard) they have mechanical singing bears at Christmas, but

 

they're just creepy. :-)

 

 

 

Molly in Buffalo

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Guest Mike Ward

In the little town in Southern Illinois where I grew up we had a Tempo, which

 

was a division of the Gamble-Skogmo Corporation. It was the first large (or so

 

I thought) discount house in the area. Strangely enough, the building that

 

originally housed the Tempo store later came to house the first Wal-Mart in

 

town. I guess that's one case of one out-of-town giant being forced out by

 

another. Of course, when that happened, better than 40 years ago, Wal-Mart was

 

just getting started and was probably smaller than Gamble-Skogmo. I even

 

remember Tempo's house brand name of Coronado. They seemed to slap it on

 

everything.

 

 

 

Not wishing to start any kind of a argument, one way or the other, but no one

 

seems to do anywhere near as much "bad-mouthing" of Safeway, Kroger, Jewel,

 

Albertsons, etc., and they all together probably put more "mom and pop" stores

 

out of business than the combine of Wal-Mart, K-Mart and Target. The same goes

 

for all of the Walgreens, Eckerds, Oscos, CVSs, etc., when it comes to forcing

 

out the locally owned pharmacy, drug store, druggist or apothecary. Just a

 

thought.

 

 

 

Mike

 

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Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:13 PM

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Discount Department Stores of the Past....

 

 

 

 

 

Here in SE Michigan we used to have Korvettes and Federals. Also we had

 

5 & 10s called Ben Franklins.

 

Kresges was the progenitor of KMart, headquartered in Troy, MI.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:20:41 -0000 "Jennifer"

 

<<mailto:jabremer66@aol.com>>

 

writes:

 

Anyone else have any discount department store memories?

 

 

 

Jennifer Bremer

 

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Hey Ken,

 

 

 

I didn't realize you could get a die cut sign. I may be interested in

 

getting one for US 112 with the state name Michigan. Do you have

 

a pic of the die cut ones, and the approx. shipping amount?

 

Let me know...........thanks.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Russell

 

 

 

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:52:57 -0000 "Ken" <thelandrunner@yahoo.com>

 

writes:

 

Greetings Fellow Roadies!

 

 

 

Just to let everyone know that this is last call for those wishing to

 

take part in this group order for the DOT U.S. Route marker signs and

 

Interstate marker signs. There's one week left.

 

 

 

The U.S. Route marker signs and Interstate marker signs are NEW and

 

are made to authentic current size and specs for actual highway use

 

by a company who is contracted by the individual state DOT's.

 

Below are the signs available. ANY route numbers may be chosen to be

 

made for you:

 

 

 

1 or 2 digit US Route number marker sign:

 

Height: 24 inches x 24 inches

 

Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy

 

Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade

 

$60 plus shipping.

 

 

 

3 digit US Route number marker sign:

 

Height: 24 inches x 30 inches

 

Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy

 

Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade

 

$70 plus shipping.

 

 

 

WEST, EAST, NORTH or SOUTH route directional marker signs:

 

Height: 12 inches x 24 inches

 

Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy

 

Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade

 

$35 plus shipping.

 

 

 

Die-cut shield US Route marker sign (not die-cast embossed):

 

Height: 24 inches x 24 inches

 

Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy

 

Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade

 

$125 plus shipping.

 

 

 

Die-cut 1 or 2 digit Interstate shield route marker sign (with or

 

without state name):

 

Height: 24 inches x 24 inches

 

Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy

 

Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade

 

$70 plus shipping.

 

 

 

Die-cut 3 digit Interstate shield route marker sign (with or without

 

state name):

 

Height: 24 inches x 30 inches

 

Material: .080" 3105 Aluminum Alloy

 

Sheeting: 3M Scotchlite Engineer Grade

 

$80 plus shipping.

 

 

 

This will be a "one time only" opportunity to order directly from the

 

DOT contractor.

 

The group order completion date has been set for August 1, 2004.

 

All orders will need to arrive to me on or before that date via

 

check, money order or PayPal.

 

Feel free to contact me by email or phone if you may have any

 

questions or for a route marker sign photo.

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

God Bless.

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

Ken Turmel

 

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Guest Russell S. Rein

I'm greatly enjoying all the banter about the Dixie Highway, and like Bob

 

I have committed to

 

a lifelong study of this fascinating roadway. Because of the parallel

 

routes, multiple loops, and

 

the Chicago "dog-leg" the total length of the highway may exceed 4,000

 

miles.

 

 

 

For example, in Michigan there was a loop between St. Ignace and Sault

 

Ste Marie, with east

 

and west routes. Then the highway went south down each side of the

 

"mitt" with another loop

 

around the "thumb" and another loop in the SW corner.

 

 

 

The Chicago dog-leg started downtown and generally followed what is now

 

IL 1 south to

 

Danville, then east following what became US 136 to Indianapolis where it

 

intersects the

 

West line coming south out of Michigan then thru South Bend and Plymouth,

 

IN. The DH

 

dog-leg intersected the Lincoln Highway at what is now US 30 in downtown

 

Chicago

 

Heights, then the two ran together south to the Old Sauk Trail where the

 

LH continued

 

east to Indiana.

 

 

 

Interestingly, the highway south of Indianapolis almost seems diverted

 

through the Bedford,

 

IN area - it is said that the reason is that many of the wealthy springs

 

owners were friends of

 

Carl Fisher.

 

 

 

I am not aware of any Dixie Highway Association official guide book, but

 

I have heard

 

rumors that one may exist. The best guide I have found for the highway

 

is the ALA Official

 

Automobile Green Book, Midwest volume for any year 1916 - 1924. For the

 

midwest

 

section of the DH - detailed instructions going both north and south are

 

found in the regular

 

part of the book. Additionally, each volume includes a special blue page

 

Dixie Highway

 

section with detailed driving instructions for the rest of the highway on

 

south.

 

 

 

When I get some free time (yeah right - maybe when I retire in 3 1/2

 

years) I have reserved

 

the domain dixiehwy.com to construct a detailed web page with mucho DH

 

memorabilia I

 

have collected over the years

 

 

 

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I traveled a lot of US 50 a couple of years ago cross country but

 

strayed on many occasions.

 

Planning another trip going out from Ga. on us 50 and coming back US

 

60. Have any suggestions?

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I loved the Woolworth's at northwest plaza in St. Louis (on bypass 66)...it

 

was the first place I ever had a frozen coke...also the first place that I

 

ever had pancakes (remember that Dad kinda scolded me, "I make those every

 

Sunday and you never tried em once!") I understand there were a few

 

counters in SEMO where I grew up, but most were gone before I can

 

remember...I don't think that you can equate the Walmart plex with this, or

 

at least I can't (or won't)...if you are ever in Eminence, MO (about 13

 

miles off US 60 in the Ozarks) there is a cool old drugstore with a soda

 

fountain...not a convenience store, but it takes you back! Tsingtao, kip

 

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Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 4:20 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Discount Department Stores of the Past....

 

 

 

 

 

> I'm not sure what made me think of this, but I remembered a discount

 

> department store in Waterbury, CT from when I was little. It was

 

> called Two Guys. Then it got me thinking about other, similar

 

> discount stores: Woolworth's, Zayre's, Kresge, Bradlee's, Caldor's &

 

> McCrory, to name a few.

 

>

 

> I remember alot of them even had coffee shops in them, serving diner-

 

> type food. How novel! I even remember when I was young, the Sears

 

> we used to shop at had a small restaurant. I can remember every last

 

> discount store restaurant like it was yesterday....we ate at alot of

 

> them when we went out shopping. I don't know why, but at the time I

 

> thought those stores and the restaurants were cool - and I still do,

 

> now that they are defunct and long gone. Even in chains of the day,

 

> there was a certain something there that isn't there in today's

 

> chains. Maybe that's just because this was when I was young, though

 

> I can't imagine any kids today looking back at and reminiscing about

 

> Target or Wal-Mart.

 

>

 

> Anyone else have any discount department store memories?

 

>

 

> Jennifer Bremer

 

> American Road List Co-Host

 

>

 

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>

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

The bus stop in Farmington, MO (off US 67--which is a cool drive from St.

 

Louis to Little Rock, or it was before it became a mini-interstate) had the

 

best French Fries I ever had! Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Discount Department Stores of the Past..../

 

restaurants

 

 

 

 

 

> Speaking of restaurants that disappeared in the 60s..... How about the

 

great

 

> little restaurants that were in every Greyhound station, big or small,(Not

 

> the gas station flag stops) in the country I think..

 

> Now some of them don't even have ticket agents..

 

>

 

> Don

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

>

 

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