Guest TuscaloosaAL@aol.com Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 I am collecting ideas for a trip on Highway 11. Please send me any restaurants, attractions, historical places, good places to stay, or anything else you might think of to make a wonderful trip. Highway 11 runs through my town and I have thought about planning a trip. I believe it goes from New York to Georgia. That is the info I have from Wikipedia. Thanks in advance. Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Hazlehurst Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Thank you Melanie. We'll try to get to Tias on our visit. Last time we were in Boston we went to a casual, family style eatery on the 2nd floor in Quincy Market but I can't remember the name. Seems to me they were noted for their home style Pot Roast with all the fixings. You sit at a long table with other parties of diners. If you're familiar with the place I'm thinking of can you tell me the name? Fred Melanie M Guerra <dreambigarts@yahoo.com> wrote: mmmm. i live in boston & just had chowder yesterday (for the 1st time in a long time, if you can believe it!). we decided to try it at tia's at the marriot long wharf & were very pleasantly surprised! creamy & delicious. my arteries were crying can't recommend a place by name in maine...we tend to get our lobster steamed for us at the grocery store here in boston & eat it at home w/ corn & beer. we're spoiled & tend not to order lobster out! if you're staying somewhere near a big-chain grocery store, you could have them steam for you...or better yet, have them steam it, bring it home, take it out of the shell & put it on the grill. YUM. of course, depends on where you're staying & the amenities you have. have fun! melanie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melanie M Guerra Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Sounds like Durgin Park. Honestly, I haven't been to Durgin Park in years because the food quality has been (in my brutal opinion) lousy. It's great for atmosphere, though, and I love sitting at the long tables with strangers. Tia's is on Long Wharf, across from Quincy Market. You sit outside near the marina...if they try to seat you on the highway side, ask to move! I know Tia's as a hotspot for happy hour, so I had never actually EATEN there until yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised. I would suggest it for lunch if you'd like to avoid the drinking crowd. Fred Hazlehurst <fhazlehurst@yahoo.com> wrote:Thank you Melanie. We'll try to get to Tias on our visit. Last time we were in Boston we went to a casual, family style eatery on the 2nd floor in Quincy Market but I can't remember the name. Seems to me they were noted for their home style Pot Roast with all the fixings. You sit at a long table with other parties of diners. If you're familiar with the place I'm thinking of can you tell me the name? Fred Melanie M Guerra <dreambigarts@yahoo.com> wrote: mmmm. i live in boston & just had chowder yesterday (for the 1st time in a long time, if you can believe it!). we decided to try it at tia's at the marriot long wharf & were very pleasantly surprised! creamy & delicious. my arteries were crying can't recommend a place by name in maine...we tend to get our lobster steamed for us at the grocery store here in boston & eat it at home w/ corn & beer. we're spoiled & tend not to order lobster out! if you're staying somewhere near a big-chain grocery store, you could have them steam for you...or better yet, have them steam it, bring it home, take it out of the shell & put it on the grill. YUM. of course, depends on where you're staying & the amenities you have. have fun! melanie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- melanie m guerra www.northernlightjewelry.com FREE JEWELRY! Host a trunk show at your home or office & you get 20% of sales in jewelry for yourself! SWEET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 That certainly is sad news. Is there a chance that Road Ranger & whoever is buying the restaurant will reopen with the existing buildings or will this be a tear-down & start over? When I was by the Dixie about a month ago, there was a big hole & a lot of digging going on to clean up some ground contamination from past garage operations. Do you think this contributed to the closing in any way? --Denny Gibson -----Original Message----- From: roadmaven [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:10 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: [Virtual Route 66] Regrets and Sadness (long) the closing of an icon (fwd) Not sure why Jeff's note didn't show up, but I pulled up the forwarded message from the Illinois Route 66 group. Sad indeed. We visited with Ernie Edwards of Pig Hip fame recently, and he told us this might happen. From: Kathy Miller <kath708@y...> Date: Tue Jul 29, 2003 6:35 am Subject: Regrets and Sadness (long) the closing of an icon Hi All, It comes with regret and sadness that I post the following... The Dixie Truckers Home will close their doors this Thursday. At our meeting Sunday, Chuck and CJ Beeler owners of the Dixie announced they had no choice but to sell the Dixie. The Dixie had been in CJ's family for over 75 years and she also just suffered the loss of her father... our deepest sympathies are extended to the Beeler's for both losses. Our hearts are full of sadness at the passing of her Dad and the Dixie. LuLu and I debated whether to post about this or not, we decided it was the right thing to do. As you may or may not know The Illinois Association Hall of Fame is located at the Dixie Truckers Home, negotiations are being pursued that will set the fate of our Hall of Fame. The Beelers have long been supporters of the Illinois Association and we cannot thank them enough for all they have done, and all they continue to do. It was a tearful announcement as CJ told us of the changes. Road Ranger will take over the fuel and a company that Chuck mentioned which I can't remember the name, will take over the restaurant. The Beeler's will operate the Quick Stop across the street and will continue to sell Route 66 Memorabilia. They are doing all they can within the sale to make sure the Association will not be harmed with the Hall of Fame. Such giving and caring people the Beeler's are. A standing ovation at the meeting to show the love and appreciation to the Beeler's took place Sunday at the meeting, with tears in many eyes at the demise of another icon and in sorrow for this wonderful family. Our love and thankfulness goes out to Chuck and CJ! Regretfully, Kath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TuscaloosaAL@aol.com Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Welcome to the group. Wisconsin is a wonderful place to travel through. I love Kenosha and Racine. Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TuscaloosaAL@aol.com Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 In a message dated 7/5/2005 7:10:16 PM Central Standard Time, fhazlehurst@yahoo.com writes: We're fans of the hated Yankees, but it would be cool to see a game at Fenway. I've heard tix are next to impossible but maybe we'll get lucky. I was in standing room on top of the Green Monster one night and sat in the 15" seats the next night. It is a blast! I've been to a Braves game, but it does not compare. They sing "Sweet Caroline" either before or after the 8th inning. I cannot remember. Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nittah Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Dover, N.H. and South Portland, Maine both have a great, inexpensive restaurant called Newicks. Their web site is www.newicks.com You can go there to get directions. I just know the towns. Another one, in several states in the Northeast is the Weathervane. www.weathervaneseafoods.com for locations and directions. We go to both frequently so we can vouch for the great food. I'm also new here. We live in New Hampshire and have some great roads to ride. My husband and I travel extensivly all over the place on our Harleys and I'm looking forward to tips of great places to visit we may not have been to yet. If anyone needs tips and info on roads here and Vermont, we know both states very well, just let me know and I'd be happy to help. Nittah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TuscaloosaAL@aol.com Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Thanks for the information. Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Beth, I thought I'd remembered some discussion about U.S. 11 on this list previously. You can try some in depth searching through the archives on our group's web page, but I did a quick search and found a few for you: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...OAD/message/943 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...OAD/message/948 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...OAD/message/852 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/AMER...OAD/message/980 Of course, there's probably a number of people (including the above members) who will be able to elaborate on U.S. 11. There is also a photo archive on one of the trips by Bob - go to our Yahoo Groups page, then Photos, and BabyBoomerBob. Jennifer http://www.roadtripmemories.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, TuscaloosaAL@a... wrote: > I am collecting ideas for a trip on Highway 11. Please send me any > restaurants, attractions, historical places, good places to stay, or anything else you > might think of to make a wonderful trip. Highway 11 runs through my town and > I have thought about planning a trip. I believe it goes from New York to > Georgia. That is the info I have from Wikipedia. Thanks in advance. > > Beth > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Beth, U S 11 runs from Rouse's Point, NY, on the Canadian border all the way to New Orleans. Doesn't go thru Georgia. Runs down thru Knox-ious-ville to Birmingham thru Meridian, MS down to Hattiesburg and on into New Orleans. I've driven some sections in VA, but not enough to know what's to see. It's a nice drive tho. Happy Traveling. Hudsonly, Alex B TuscaloosaAL@aol.com wrote: I am collecting ideas for a trip on Highway 11. Please send me any restaurants, attractions, historical places, good places to stay, or anything else you might think of to make a wonderful trip. Highway 11 runs through my town and I have thought about planning a trip. I believe it goes from New York to Georgia. That is the info I have from Wikipedia. Thanks in advance. Beth Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Hazlehurst Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Thanks to all for some great suggestions. Looks like we'll have plenty of good spots to dine! I think Durgin Park is the place I was thinking of--sorry to hear the quality has gone downhill. I'll try to ask a few customers on their way out for their opinions before I go there. Sox game--Hmmm. We're fans of the hated Yankees, but it would be cool to see a game at Fenway. I've heard tix are next to impossible but maybe we'll get lucky. Fred TuscaloosaAL@aol.com wrote: I love Boston! I was there on May 8-May 11. I stayed at the Boston Park Plaza. I currently live in Tuscaloosa, AL and while Tuscaloosa has all I need, Boston has all I need and bunch of extra fun stuff. For breakfast, we ate at Au Bon Pain. Other restaurants we ate at were Legal's Sea Foods and Union Oyster House. We walked the Freedom Trail and went to two Red Sox games. You need many days to visit Boston. I was only there two full days. Beth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 In a message dated 7/5/05 7:56:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hester_nec@yahoo.com writes: I've driven some sections in VA, but not enough to know what's to see. It's a nice drive tho. ==================================================================== I use in in Virginia to avoid I-81, which is just getting worse and worse all the time. There's a lot of neat stuff on 11. Plenty of historical markers and Civil War stuff. If you know what to look for, you can find all sorts of relics from the golden age of motor travel, when traveling by car could actually be fun. The overhanging roofs with columns that were the hallmark of a lot of gas stations. Buildings recognizable as old Stuckey's or Howard Johnson's by the architecture. Lots of abandoned motels, and a few still operating. One looks like a real gem, the Blue Jay near Ironto south of Roanoke. It has a big neon sign and an adjoining restaurant, and appears to be well kept. I've never stayed there, as it's too close to home. Most of US 11 is three lanes. At one time, Virginia had the middle lane as the "suicide lane," that is, it could be used for passing by both travel lanes at the same time. Just a pair of dotted white lines on either side of the middle-even over crests of hills. Scariest thing you ever looked at. Today, the road is marked in such a way to clearly designate which direction of travel is permitted in the middle lane. In some places, it's set up as a left turn lane. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 In a message dated 7/5/05 11:43:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yg@scottwood.net writes: I'd like to solicit recommendations for quality Road Atlases. ==================================================================== I used to like Gousha (sp?) maps and atlases. I think they were the ones that had those little arrows with the distance between two points. For example: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Washington>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40 Miles <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Baltimore>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that was a Gousha thing. Anybody else remember those? Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest franciemae Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I am pleased to have been accepted into this group. A little bio on myself and family. My husband and I live in a small community in NE Wisconsin, only a population of about 900. We love to travel to the northwoods via the 2 lane highways. One of our favorites spots to roam the back roads/forest roads is near Crandon, Eagle River and Rhinelander Wisconsin. Just head north of Green Bay, home of the famous Green Bay Packers and you will find miles and miles of 2 lane wonders, which lead you to many 1 lane forest roads. Travel north on highway 32, through Polaski, Gillette, Suring, Mountain, Lakewood, Townsend, Carter, Laona on to Crandon where you will meet up with highway 8. From there you only need to drive a short distance to find some of the best Forest Roads in the state. Jeep lovers congregate each year for the annual Jeep Jamboree. It's not for everyone, but jeep lovers of all sorts, from the most decked out Grand Cherekee to the most basic C-J7, they roam the dirt roads in search of non-civilzation! So if you are looking for some "day- trips". Come join us in the "north woods" where you can excape those concrete monster highways. I'm looking forward to sharing our adventures as we travel throughout the state. Anxious to read all the postings from various parts of the country, of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dubl59zy Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I'd like to solicit recommendations for quality Road Atlases. By "quality" I mean a book that is not only well constructed, by also elegantly conceived and designed. The standard AAA is perfectly functional but rather blah. For example, I used to have a full (i.e., not a pocket) national road atlas that was constructed with a plastic folding cover with a snap that kept it shut. That one's been long lost, and I haven't seen anything like it since. Also, by elegantly conceived I'm open to creative ways of displaying information, or even creative choice of information. Thanks, --sw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ella Coleman Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Hi. My name is Ella and I am new to the group. My husband and I love to travel every year and every year we find a new place to go and a back road to take while there. I noticed the post for a request of good Road atlasses. I recommend DeLorme Maps. You can read about them and purchase them online for a price of $19.95 for each state atlas. They are available for all 50 states. Here's their link... <http://www.delorme.com/atlasgaz/> I can't wait to get on the road again! Take care, Ella ----- Original Message ----- From: dubl59zy<mailto:yg@scottwood.net> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:22 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Road Atlas I'd like to solicit recommendations for quality Road Atlases. By "quality" I mean a book that is not only well constructed, by also elegantly conceived and designed. The standard AAA is perfectly functional but rather blah. For example, I used to have a full (i.e., not a pocket) national road atlas that was constructed with a plastic folding cover with a snap that kept it shut. That one's been long lost, and I haven't seen anything like it since. Also, by elegantly conceived I'm open to creative ways of displaying information, or even creative choice of information. Thanks, --sw Visit our homepage at: <http://www.mockturtlepress.com/> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMERICAN_ROAD>" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoo groups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 "To see something that you've never seen before... You have to go somewhere you've never been before." I'll have those pics posted one of these days. Right now, I'm still too busy taking more pics... and getting the postmarks of those pics. Ken --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <mail@d...> wrote: > Many thanks to Ken, Dav, & Jane for some great ideas. It looks pretty > certain that the available time won't be zero but it still could be pretty > short. I'll be in Phoenix Tuesday on business and have booked a Sunday > afternoon flight out. If things go badly, I'll be tied up through Friday but > still have Saturday and part of Sunday for myself. The other end would be > finishing up on Wednesday or Thursday and being able to add another day or > to to the schedule. I expect to be back with a question or two as the > boundaries become apparent. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Dippel [mailto:vestaon66@y...] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:12 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 183 > > > There are many ghost towns between Flagstaff and Phoeinx that are off 17. > Have visited Bumble Bee, Cleator, Humbolt, Mayer and Crown King. I reached > all of these in a Dodge. The ride is a very slow and rough but the reward > great. Try one you might get hooked on ghost towns. I did one on a whim and > now love to explore them. Jerome out of Sedona is a ghost town but full of > people and a very interesting an easy drive. If you head to Apache Junction > and the Superstition Mountains be sure to eat at Tortilla > Flats.....Jane....Have found Cottonwood less expensive to stay in then > Sedona if you are looking for an over night try the View Motel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adpoole_2000 Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Diana- I have a bad fear of heights myself-but if you want an absolutely beautiful route to drive in Southern Idaho, then what you need to do is this: Drive to Boise, Idaho using I84-once you reach Boise, take exit 57 and head north along Highway 21. You'll pass right over the Oregon Trail-look to your right as you descend into the Boise River valley and you'll see where the trail cuts down the ancient bed and towards the river. From there you will follow the river north and east to Lucky Peak reservoir, and then over the ridge on a gently climb into the mountains. When you reach Hilltop, you'll want to get into a lower gear because the grade on the north side is a 6%. You'll cross a bridge over the Mores Creek arm of the lake, and begin a gradual climb towards Idaho City, a genuine gold mining camp that at its peak saw more gold than the Alaska Rush and a population greater than Portland. If you are hungry when you reach Idaho City, stop at Trudy's, and make sure to sample the homemade Huckleberry syrup. From Idaho City you'll travel a few switchbacks up to Mores Creek summit, and then begin to wind downward towards Lowman. Lowman used to be quite the vacation town-after the fires of 1988-89, there are only 15 residents left. There is a history center showing what happened in the fire-this is a stop you want to make. just past Lowman is a recommended overnight stop-Kirkham Hot Springs Campground-there is a nice set of springs on the sw side of the campground-one has a waterfall that cascades over you-a very nice alternative to a shower! From Lowman you'll follow the South Fork of the Payette River-one of the nation's premier rafting/kayaking destinations. Climb up and over the Banner Summit and you will enter the Salmon River watershed. As you approach Stanley, the Sawtooth Mountains come into view-looks as if God placed a saw upside down in the earth. When you reach the junction of 21 & 75, turn south-this highway passes over Galena summit and through Ketchum, Hailey & Bellevue. driving through Ketchom means a stop at Shorty's-owned by Bruce Willis, you can often catch a glimpse of the man jamming with his band in the lounge. When the towns were first named, it was suggested that they name Hailey Hogum, and Bellevue Skinum, thus the phrase Ketchum, Hogum and Skinum. The things you learn from books!! LOL From Bellevue headed south you have two choices- Follow 75 south to Shoshone, and from there 93 south to Twin Falls and the junction with I84.... Or..... At the intersection of 75/20 turn east towards Arco-you'll pass by Craters of the Moon National Monument. From Arco keep on 20 eastbound-20 miles away is EBR-1-the first breeder reactor to produce power-take the tour-it's quite interesting! From there head east to the junction of 20/26, head southeast on 26 to I15 and then continue south on I15 & I84 towards Salt Lake City. Tony Poole --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "dianareesjohnson" <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > Is there any way to find out what certain roads are like ahead of > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have vertigo (I guess it is > called) and I get very frightened on windy roads with narrow shoulders > and cliff like views. You know the kind they show in movies when the > bad guy misses the turn and flies off the cliff and explodes into > flames? LOL. I like to stick to wider or flatter roads where > possible. Is there somewhere to look for this information? > > Currently I am planning a trip from southern Oregon to Salt Lake City > and want to plan my route. > > Diana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adpoole_2000 Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 We are planning a number of summer road trips over the next several years: 2006 - Route 66 2007 - Northern Rockies/Plains 2008 - Eastern half of the Lincoln Highway 2009 - Great Lakes Lighthouses 2010 - Western half of the Lincoln Highway 2011 - TransCanada Highway You'll find more information at: www.cedarvalleytbirds.org Tony Poole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 When I saw "Literary Wagons" on the cover I automatically wondered if Ghost Dancing would be included. I was quite happy to see that it was and pleasantly surprised to see that another favorite, Pirsig's unnamed Honda, was also covered. After a skim of the magazine, "Lit Wagons" was the first article I read completely, closely followed by the Abernathys. Then the rest of the magazine just added to the enjoyment that those two articles provided. Another great job (and how did I live this long without hearing the Abernathy story?). P.S., John, of course I knew that Ohio people were special and the insert reminded me that we have some special byways that need to be driven. P.P.S., Bliss, I agree that Rocinante was almost certainly not propelled by a V-6. Either the '6' is wrong (my bet) or the 'V' is. I even leafed through TWC looking for evidence but found nothing on the engine. P.P.P.S., Apologies for my double post of the Digest Number 183 reply. I apparently decided that I should clip some of the extra text at exactly the same time that transport electrons sent the first one on its way. The result is both a clipped and an unclipped version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hans-Ehlert Wohlers Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 -------Originalmeldung------- Von: Hans-Ehlert Wohlers Datum: 08/05/05 12:16:22 An: ROUTE-66@yahoogroups.com Cc: ROUTE-66@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Pictures Route 66 Pictures of my drive over the route 66 some years ago. http://community.webshots.com/album/125514161XrjmOi http://community.webshots.com/album/136522083fbTFaU http://community.webshots.com/album/140995212oMaUli http://community.webshots.com/album/143789867Yjxfgm http://community.webshots.com/album/147996619xnjkxm Greetings Hans-Ehlert, Vienna Austria ICQ 1466753 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Price Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Yes it is a sad day. I saw Little Milton numerous times and I'll miss him. Coincidently,I work about two blocks from Annie Mae's Cafe here in Chattanooga. It has been closed for a number of years though. Bill Price Lake Chickamauga TN --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> wrote: > Sad day for you blues enthusiasts up and down Route 66...don't fret, the blues still be alright; just a little more "blues" after today (info courtesy Cat Head Records, Clarksdale, MS)...Tsingtao Kip > > Bluesman "Little" Milton Campbell dies > Thu Aug 4, 2005 9:27 PM IST > CHICAGO (Reuters) - Blues singer, songwriter and guitarist "Little" Milton Campbell, whose gritty vocals and songwriting recalled B.B. King's rough-edged style, died on Thursday from a stroke, his record company said. The 71-year-old Grammy-nominated guitarist and singer known for writing and recording the blues anthem "The Blues Is Alright" never awoke from a coma following a stroke he suffered on July 27 in Memphis, said Valarie Kashimura of The Malaco Music Group. "We've lost a great soldier," Kashimura said. Born to sharecropping farmers near the Mississippi Delta town of Inverness -- his father, "Big" Milton Campbell, was a local blues musician -- "Little" Milton picked up a guitar at age 12 and recorded his first hit for Sam Phillips' Sun Records at age 18. It was the same year the Memphis label recorded Elvis Presley for the first time. Discovered by blues-rock pioneer Ike Turner, Campbell went on to score dozens of rhythm and blues hits and was inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame in 1988. Though acclaimed in blues circles, Campbell never achieved the fame of King and some other American bluesmen. Nevertheless, his nearly constant touring took him all over the world. After signing with Bobbin Records in East St. Louis, Illinois, Campbell recorded "I'm a Lonely Man" and "That Will Never Do." A long association with Chicago's Chess Records produced the 1965 hit "We're Gonna Make It," which coincided with the civil rights movement. Other hits included "Baby I Love You," "If Walls Could Talk," "Feel So Bad," "Who's Cheating Who?" and "Grits Ain't Groceries." "Annie Mae's Cafe" and "Little Bluebird" were hits he recorded with Memphis' Stax Records, which he joined in 1971 before the label's demise. Most recently, he recorded for The Malaco Music Group in Jackson, Mississippi, for whom he produced albums entitled "Your Wife is Cheating on Us" and "A Nickel and a Nail." > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Navigator and I are planning a trip to the Three Rivers, MI area with friends in the near future and would like to venture a little farther north up the Lake Michigan coastline after that. (1) My 2002 atlas doesn't show an obvious two-laner from, let's say, Benton Harbor up the coastline. All I really see is I-196 and a hint of something marked "31." Is the interstate the only way to go north? (2) Are there any "must-see" or "must-stay" lodges/motels on the lake from Benton Harbor to Ludington? (3) About how far across Lake Michigan is it to Manitowoc, WI on the toll ferry? (4) What's the approximate cost of the toll ferry? (5) Is there a cool Mom 'n Pop motel in Green Bay, WI near Lambeau Field? (6) Same for a neighborhood saloon where the die hard cheeseheads hang out? (7) Are there any "must-see" or "must-stay" lodges/motels on the Lake Michigan coastline in WI? Thanks for your help.....Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shellee Graham Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 on 8/28/03 2:12 PM, Jane Dippel at vestaon66@yahoo.com wrote: > There are many ghost towns between Flagstaff and Phoeinx that are off 17. Have > visited Bumble Bee, Cleator, Humbolt, Mayer and Crown King. I reached all of > these in a Dodge. The ride is a very slow and rough but the reward great. Try > one you might get hooked on ghost towns. I did one on a whim and now love to > explore them. Jerome out of Sedona is a ghost town but full of people and a > very interesting an easy drive. If you head to Apache Junction and the > Superstition Mountains be sure to eat at Tortilla Flats.....Jane....Have found > Cottonwood less expensive to stay in then Sedona if you are looking for an > over night try the View Motel > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH > YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. What's near Phoenix? > From: "Denny Gibson" > 2. Re: What's near Phoenix? > From: "Ken" > 3. RE: Re: What's near Phoenix? > From: "Denny Gibson" > 4. Re: What's near Phoenix? > From: "Ken" > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:31:02 -0000 > From: "Denny Gibson" > Subject: What's near Phoenix? > > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I > could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but > thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. > Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific > items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:30:05 -0000 > From: "Ken" > Subject: Re: What's near Phoenix? > > Hey Denny! > > If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make > it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards > Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! > Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments > and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as > visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! > You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! > > Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was > formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you > onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times > you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by > the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make > the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! > Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! > > Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. > From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best > to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the > Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to > Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 > heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at > all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure > Trip! Oh Yeah! > > Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona > area,...that's what I would do. Q:) > > God Bless and Happy Trails. > Have a safe sojourn. > > the landrunner > > > P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should > look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and > his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! > > "To see something that you've never seen before... > You have to go somewhere you've never been before." > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" > wrote: >> There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle > days >> in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to >> Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out >> west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know > I >> could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but >> thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar > situation. >> Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific >> items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:37:47 -0400 > From: "Denny Gibson" > Subject: RE: Re: What's near Phoenix? > > That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Lottsa thanks. > > I did a quick plot on the "Triangle" (actually looks a little like a fish, > if you squint just right) and it looks like it might be marginally do-able > in two days but would really require three or more to avoid a time squeeze. > So I have to ask about trimmings and substitutions. > > #1. What about clipping the 191 from St Johns to Sanders? The Petrified > Forest is certainly cool but I have been there so it has to be considered > expendable. The question is, what would I miss by substituting 180 for 191? > > #2. An even bigger clip would be to head north at Show Low (Wish I could > remember where I've read about that town.) and take 77 straight to Holbrook. > > #3. Route 77 goes through Snowflake and seeing that prompted me to dig out > Blue Highways. Heat-Moon turned north at Snowflake after taking 87-260-277 > from Phoenix. That cuts off a few hours, throws in a little literary > connection, and completely removes any resemblance to a triangle. > > #4. If time got even shorter, I guess I could hightail it out of Flagstaff > on I-17 and miss out on Prescott, etc. > > This is all theoretical right now because there might be no free time. There > could be three or four days but if it turns out to be one or two, I want to > be ready to use it. Any comments on the above possibilities? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:thelandrunner@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: What's near Phoenix? > > > Hey Denny! > > If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make > it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards > Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! > Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments > and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as > visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! > You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! > > Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was > formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you > onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times > you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by > the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make > the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! > Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! > > Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. >> From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best > to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the > Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to > Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 > heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at > all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure > Trip! Oh Yeah! > > Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona > area,...that's what I would do. Q:) > > God Bless and Happy Trails. > Have a safe sojourn. > > the landrunner > > > P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should > look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and > his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! > > "To see something that you've never seen before... > You have to go somewhere you've never been before." > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" > wrote: >> There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle > days >> in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to >> Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out >> west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know > I >> could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but >> thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar > situation. >> Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific >> items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH > YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:27:25 -0000 > From: "Ken" > Subject: Re: What's near Phoenix? > > Greetings Denny! > > Hey...I can see that fish that you see. Whoa! > > #1. Bypassing US191 to provide time for the journey is certainly an > option. The reasons why I suggested US 191 is because 1) It skirts > the Apache National Forest and is a beautiful drive, 2) I thought you > might enjoy cruising on the former US 666 route. Your choice of path > changes to save time is most understandable, and really only depends > on the amount of time you can afford. Going by way of US 180 isn't as > scenic drive as US 191, but one must keep within the time constraints. > > #2. If you were to clip off a part of the Triangle, this choice of > taking SR 77 would be your best bet. Takes you on a beeline straight > to the Mother Road. This is the clip that I would recommend, if any > clipping should have to occur. P.S. - You probably read alot about > Showlow and the surrounding areas last year, when the entire area was > engulfed with disasterous fires that burned millions of acres of > forest and many of the towns were evacuated. > > #3. Don't worry about messing up the Triangle shaped journey path. > You're reasoning for this clip connects you, in a literary sense, to > Blue Highways and is a great motive for making this journey possible! > Bring the book with you. You may find a shade tree to stop for a > packed roadside lunch and cop a few pages in while you're enjoying > the mountain breeze and relaxing a meal down. > > #4. Yep. I agree! A quick jaunt over to the SuperSlab will certainly > get you out of a bind for time. Another alternate route to this clip > could be to remain on course going south from Flagstaff on SR 89A, > through Sedona (gotta go to Sedona!), to Prescott. At Prescott, jog > southeast on SR 69 through Dewey, Humboldt, Mayer, and then dump onto > I-17 from there. This route will trek you through the gap with the > Prescott National Forest on both sides. Nice! > > Only other advice is to leave very early in the mornings. You will > have PLENTY of time to make this journey, especially after some of > the clips. Besides, with the Arizona heat blazing this time of year, > you'll be glad that you had enjoyed at least a small bit of time in > the coolness of the morning air. As a part time hiker, I will always > add the recommendation of bringing plenty of water with you. > > God Bless Denny! Have fun! Safe and Happy Trails. > > the landrunner Q:) > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" > wrote: >> That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Lottsa thanks. >> >> I did a quick plot on the "Triangle" (actually looks a little like > a fish, >> if you squint just right) and it looks like it might be marginally > do-able >> in two days but would really require three or more to avoid a time > squeeze. >> So I have to ask about trimmings and substitutions. >> >> #1. What about clipping the 191 from St Johns to Sanders? The > Petrified >> Forest is certainly cool but I have been there so it has to be > considered >> expendable. The question is, what would I miss by substituting 180 > for 191? >> >> #2. An even bigger clip would be to head north at Show Low (Wish I > could >> remember where I've read about that town.) and take 77 straight to > Holbrook. >> >> #3. Route 77 goes through Snowflake and seeing that prompted me to > dig out >> Blue Highways. Heat-Moon turned north at Snowflake after taking 87- > 260-277 >> from Phoenix. That cuts off a few hours, throws in a little literary >> connection, and completely removes any resemblance to a triangle. >> >> #4. If time got even shorter, I guess I could hightail it out of > Flagstaff >> on I-17 and miss out on Prescott, etc. >> >> This is all theoretical right now because there might be no free > time. There >> could be three or four days but if it turns out to be one or two, I > want to >> be ready to use it. Any comments on the above possibilities? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ken [mailto:thelandrunner@y...] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM >> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: What's near Phoenix? >> >> >> Hey Denny! >> >> If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make >> it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards >> Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! >> Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments >> and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as >> visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! >> You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! >> >> Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which > was >> formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you >> onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times >> you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by >> the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to > make >> the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! >> Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! >> >> Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. >>> From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. > Best >> to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the >> Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to >> Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 >> heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at >> all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure >> Trip! Oh Yeah! >> >> Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona >> area,...that's what I would do. Q:) >> >> God Bless and Happy Trails. >> Have a safe sojourn. >> >> the landrunner >> >> >> P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should >> look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and >> his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! >> >> "To see something that you've never seen before... >> You have to go somewhere you've never been before." >> >> You are so cool Jane. Now we can call you "GhosttownVesta". Hey, you wanna go to Schiller's with me?? Today or next week?? Thankya. Shelled one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian and Kerri Wolters Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Thanks! I'd love to see them but it says I am not authorized... Brian --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Mark <mburic231@y...> wrote: > I went down 66 a week later than I had planned. > Here's pics of the signs I took yesterday at about > 4:30 There are also 2 pics at the Riviera from a bit > later in the evening. > > -Mark Buric > > http://image61.webshots.com/161/1/4/3/413510403krFYwm_fs.jpg > > http://image51.webshots.com/151/1/21/53/41...53igXJlI_fs.jpg > > http://image60.webshots.com/160/1/25/8/413...08KdDXZl_fs.jpg > > http://image54.webshots.com/154/1/51/68/41...68VgexXy_fs.jpg > > http://image51.webshots.com/51/1/19/16/413...16AGlcCL_fs.jpg > > http://image53.webshots.com/53/1/11/6/413511106jbQqjB_fs.jpg > > http://image61.webshots.com/161/1/58/19/41...19lTECoJ_fs.jpg > > http://image60.webshots.com/60/1/55/79/413...79RHccdt_fs.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Denny Gibson <denny@d...> wrote: > > > > > I believe you're thinking of the set at Godley > > (part > > > of "greater Gardner"). > > > > > > "Does your husband Misbehave? Grunt and grumble, > > > rant and rave? Shoot the > > > brute some Burma-Shave." > > > > > > --Denny > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jennifer [mailto:jabremer66@a...] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:19 PM > > > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Burma Shave Signs > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brian, > > > > > > > > There are some Burma Shave signs (not original, > > > though) in Illinois on > > > > Route 66, but I'm not 100% sure where. My > > husband > > > Pat thinks they are > > > > somewhere near Gardner or that area. > > > > > > > > Pat and I have a very cool set of Burma Shave > > > signs made for us for > > > > our wedding by fellow list member Emily: > > > http://tinyurl.com/dgdtl > > > > > > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Brian and > > > Kerri Wolters" > > > > <brianwolters@c...> wrote: > > > > > Hi..I am expecting not but are there any > > > ORIGINAL Burma Shave signs > > > > > still up somewhere in the US? > > > > > > > > > > I did see replicas of them advertising > > Reminisce > > > Magazine and it was > > > > > basically in the middle of nowhere. Kind of > > > cool! > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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