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Guest David G. Clark

Hey, Everybody!

 

 

 

I'm just posting a reminder to anyone who is planning on

 

participating in the Route 66 Association of Illinois's Motor tour--

 

please try to come in early on Friday, June 6th to join me on a

 

Chicago Loop walking tour covering many of the sights to see on the

 

Mother Road's eastern end. The tours will be about 2 hours each. One

 

will start at 12:15 p.m., and the other at 2:30 p.m. There will be

 

loads of info on transportation history in general, and plain ol'

 

American History in general, as well as stuff about all of the

 

buildings we will see.

 

 

 

After all, the starting point of US 66 was also graced (either

 

parallel to or intersecting with) these other routes at some point

 

in the past:

 

 

 

Dixie Highway, US 41, US 32, US 34, as well as Illinois State Bond

 

Issue Routes 1, 2, 4, 18, and 42. And there may be more, but sitting

 

here at my computer at work, I can't think of any others.

 

 

 

There will be discussion of the sites of a nearby Studebaker

 

Carriage showroom from the 1880s, the site of the Pullman car

 

company's downtown office building, the Railway Exchange building,

 

and anything else I can cram into 2 hours.

 

 

 

 

 

And, if anyone from the Chicago area is NOT participating in the

 

weekend motor tour, you are still invited on the walk. Here's a link

 

to more information:

 

 

 

http://www.il66assoc.org/idx_Walk03.htm

 

 

 

Or, just get hold of me directly:

 

 

 

dave@windycityroadwarrior.com

 

http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com

 

312-432-1284

 

843 W. Adams St. #312

 

Chicago, IL 60607-3017

 

 

 

I'll be happy to help navigate folks in to the starting point at

 

Adams and Michigan Avenue, in front ot the Art Institute, at the

 

southern Lion Statue.

 

 

 

Finally, I will repeat my general invitation to any list member who

 

is traveling to or from Chicago on a road adventure this year--get

 

hold of me for a private tour.

 

 

 

I'll be on the road from May 4th until approximately May 21st

 

myself, traveling for the first time with laptop computer, so I

 

should be within e-mail contact most days.

 

 

 

See you somewhere on the road!

 

 

 

Dave Clark

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Guest Russell S. Rein

I believe the Lincoln Highway (the Father Road) and

 

what later became Route 66 intersected and ran together

 

for three blocks, N. Division St., in downtown

 

Plainfield, IL.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

 

 

> After all, the starting point of US 66 was also graced (either

 

> parallel to or intersecting with) these other routes at some point

 

> in the past:

 

>

 

> Dixie Highway, US 41, US 32, US 34, as well as Illinois State Bond

 

> Issue Routes 1, 2, 4, 18, and 42. And there may be more, but sitting

 

>

 

> here at my computer at work, I can't think of any others.

 

 

 

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Guest Shellee Graham

> Shellee whats the update on the coral court video are we going to be able to

 

> buy it, or what? Keep us informed. I'd sure like to have a copy of it. Fred

 

 

 

Hey Fred,

 

 

 

The documentary "Built for Speed: The Coral Court Motel," is nearly

 

finished. The project took longer than expected for different

 

reasons/setbacks. The past few months, my partner Bill Boll has been piecing

 

the segments together into reels that make sense, working music into it, and

 

finally we have to make sure we get the thank yous and credits right.

 

 

 

Last month, we filmed parts of the world premier of the play "Kid Peculiar

 

at the Coral Court Motel" at Washington University. And yesterday, we

 

interviewed an older, local newscaster about St. Louis gangs, the Greenlease

 

(kidnapping/murder) case from 1953. Now we must finalize the images, music,

 

etc and tie up loose ends.

 

 

 

I have also been working on the movie POSTER for the documentary. Maybe I

 

can post it to the yahoo site? Minutes later... hey, I just posted my first

 

photo to the American Road Yahoo Group site. Not sure how you can find it,

 

but I tried to copy and paste the URL. It's very long...

 

 

 

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ameri...lee+Graham%

 

27s+stuff&.src=gr&.dnm=CCM+Doc.+Movie+Poster+IDEA.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a/

 

/photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/american_road/lst%3f%26.dir=/Shellee%2bGraham

 

%2527s%2bstuff%26.src=gr%26.view=t

 

 

 

At first, I liked the poster. Now, I'm just not crazy about it. Now, if that

 

professional graphic designer from Hollywood would just look it over and

 

make a few adjustments. :) Constructive feedback is appreciated.

 

 

 

Thankya.

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

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Russ,

 

 

 

Yes indeed, and to Joliet also. This portion eventually became US 30.

 

 

 

the landrunner

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-

 

slim@j...> wrote:

 

> I believe the Lincoln Highway (the Father Road) and

 

> what later became Route 66 intersected and ran together

 

> for three blocks, N. Division St., in downtown

 

> Plainfield, IL.

 

>

 

> ypsi-slim

 

>

 

>

 

> > After all, the starting point of US 66 was also graced (either

 

> > parallel to or intersecting with) these other routes at some

 

point

 

> > in the past:

 

> >

 

> > Dixie Highway, US 41, US 32, US 34, as well as Illinois State

 

Bond

 

> > Issue Routes 1, 2, 4, 18, and 42. And there may be more, but

 

sitting

 

> >

 

> > here at my computer at work, I can't think of any others.

 

>

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I like the "pikes" around Nashville TN...Franklin Pike, Donnelson Pike...and

 

I really enjoyed Wallis' article in American Road about what I always called

 

Alligator Alley...I can see that mag being one cool thaing...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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years and there have been 4 families that have lived there since.); head

 

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> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Highway Nicknames

 

> Just got back from our first road trip through California, and I too

 

> was fascinated by this. I also found the use of the word "freeway"

 

> interesting. As a lifelong midwesterner, we just don't refer to

 

> roads in this manner. We have expressways, tollways, Interstates,

 

> highways, turnpikes, routes, but we just don't have "freeways."

 

>

 

> In Chicago, the interstates are referred to as "I-90", "I-290", etc.

 

> However, if an expressway has been named locally in addition to its

 

> numerical designation, then it might be referred to as "The

 

> Kennedy," "The Eisenhower", and so on. But NEVER, "The 90".

 

>

 

> Also, when it comes to following U.S. or Illinois state highways

 

> through Chicago, don't bother asking a Chicagoan for directions.

 

> With the possible exception of US 41 down Lake Shore Drive,

 

> Chicagoans have no concept of numbered routes running down their

 

> streets. If you get lost and run into the corner gas station to

 

> ask, "how do I get back on U.S. 12 westbound?" you will get a blank

 

> stare and a mystified shrug of the shoulders. Streets are referred

 

> to by name ONLY--Irving Park Road, Elston Avenue, Western Avenue,

 

> Clybourn, 35th Street, Roosevelt Road. Its as if the route number

 

> signs posted on the corners are completely invisible to the natives.

 

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Guest Jim Conkle

Hello all you road warriors out there,

 

 

 

How about we plan a caravan to run the length of Hwy 99 from the southern

 

end to Canada? The Canadian folks will be coming down again for the Kingman

 

Fun Run April 29 to May 1 in 2005, then heading back north on May 3rd or

 

4th. We can plan our caravan to include them and pick up others along the

 

way.

 

 

 

We have quite a lot of talent out there so putting this together now makes

 

sense. So what say Anna, the two Mike's, Scott, Jill and all the rest of

 

you? Art and Lorrie will work with their groups in promoting this event and

 

will add their talent to getting it organized. Who else wants to volunteer

 

to be on the committee? We need to set dates, stops along the way, contacts

 

before/during/after, media coverage and support within the Hwy 99 Corridor.

 

Sounds like a lot of work which it isn't and that we have a lot of time

 

which we do not. So please add your voice, ideas, suggestions and support

 

now!

 

 

 

I will be happy to serve as a co-chair with who ever else wants to work on

 

this. We will need contacts in all areas as there will be much leg work to

 

pull this off so spread the word.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road.

 

 

 

 

 

Jim Conkle

 

Executive Director/Chairman of the Board California Route 66

 

Preservation Foundation

 

P O Box 290066

 

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Guest Jim Ross

Greetings All,

 

 

 

I have just returned from Albuquerque, where Thomas, Becky, and I attended

 

the National Scenic Byways Conference. It was a fine event and we met a

 

lot of movers and shakers from around the country, all with the same goal:

 

to preserve and promote their favorite historic highway. Thomas didn't

 

mention it in his post, but he was given the honor of introducing "The

 

Grapes of Wrath" at the special Kimo Theater screening, and gave a short

 

but compelling speech about the film to the delight of the crowd. Overall,

 

American Road got a lot of attention throughout the conference.

 

 

 

By now most subscribers have received their premier issue and we have been

 

getting quite a few emails. We would like to thank all of you for your

 

incredible support and encouragement. It is because of you that American

 

Road is on the move. We have a great line-up in place for issues #2 and

 

#3, so stay tuned!

 

 

 

Jim R.

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Guest Alex Burr

Still patiently awaiting the first issue - but then

 

I'm still patiently awaiting my H-E-T club magazine

 

too.

 

 

 

The Hudson club did a survey recently on mailings -

 

the problem seems to be located in the distribution

 

centers; in our case here in New England it seems

 

everything goes to a big center in the New York City

 

area and then is sent out to other distribution

 

centers - for most of Maine, it appears to be the

 

Boston Main Post Office. So there are two large

 

bottlenecks right there. In the case of bulk mailings

 

it seems to take longer to sort these and get them on

 

their way - smaller items, such as letters, appear to

 

take priority. Typical postal worker mentality - do

 

the easy first and hope somebody else does the heavy

 

work.

 

 

 

Oh, well, maybe tomorrow. It only took 10 days for

 

a book to come to me here in Kennebunk, ME, from North

 

Walpole, NH - I can drive over there in a couple of

 

hours, depending on the traffic on U S 202 or 9.

 

 

 

Everybody have a great holiday weekend - I'm going

 

to get a ton of computer work done here; its going to

 

be a typical New England Holiday weekend - wet, cold,

 

windy and miserable.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Jim Ross <pathfinder66@earthlink.net> wrote:

 

> Greetings All,

 

>

 

> I have just returned from Albuquerque, where Thomas,

 

> Becky, and I attended

 

> the National Scenic Byways Conference. It was a fine

 

> event and we met a

 

> lot of movers and shakers from around the country,

 

> all with the same goal:

 

> to preserve and promote their favorite historic

 

> highway. Thomas didn't

 

> mention it in his post, but he was given the honor

 

> of introducing "The

 

> Grapes of Wrath" at the special Kimo Theater

 

> screening, and gave a short

 

> but compelling speech about the film to the delight

 

> of the crowd. Overall,

 

> American Road got a lot of attention throughout the

 

> conference.

 

>

 

> By now most subscribers have received their premier

 

> issue and we have been

 

> getting quite a few emails. We would like to thank

 

> all of you for your

 

> incredible support and encouragement. It is because

 

> of you that American

 

> Road is on the move. We have a great line-up in

 

> place for issues #2 and

 

> #3, so stay tuned!

 

>

 

> Jim R.

 

>

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <thelandrunner@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> >

 

> I really need to get into contact with Patty Kuhn with the Central

 

> Illinois Tourism Dept. She has apparently changed her email address

 

> since our last correspondence and she is out of the office until

 

> Monday. If any of you know her home phone, either contact me with

 

her

 

> number OR contact her and give her mine:

 

> 405-737-3739

 

>

 

> Thanks Ya'll! God Bless!

 

>

 

> Ken Turmel

 

 

 

Ken, here's an email reply I received from Tom Teague, Route 66

 

Association if IL founder, in response to my my plea for help from

 

the IL group:

 

Good afternoon:

 

 

 

I'm sending Ken Patty Kuhn's current phone number and e-mail address,

 

which are 866-378-7866 and pkuhn@illinoisroute66.com. As for

 

expenses, he can always count on a meal and a place to stay when he

 

passes through town.

 

 

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Bliss

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Guest Denny Gibson

I'm on my way to the Tulsa Route 66 Festival via St Louis and much of the

 

Mother Road that connects St Louis and Tulsa. I have the first day posted at

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt66fest04

 

and will have others there as days & miles pass by.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks to some great advice, I spent Saturday enjoying the sites along US 6

 

in western Pennsylnania. Friday & Saturday up at:

 

 

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/rt6plus

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Hey Folks,

 

 

 

The original Lincoln Highway between Omaha and Elkhorn, NE

 

will be "re-bricked"! -

 

http://Rebricking.notlong.com

 

 

 

Gregory Franzwa, founder and former President of the Lincoln Highway

 

and editor of the Lincoln Highway Forum is on the road -

 

http://GregFranzwa.notlong.com

 

 

 

See you at the National Conference in Chester, WV

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

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You wouldn't believe what I had to go through to get that part!!!

 

One of those humorous surprises in the museum and I happened to be there at the

 

right or wrong time. The Daily Press of Victorville also picked up the story.

 

Thorough Austrian & German crew with their last film on Robert Redford. Krill

 

knows the desert well and has an appreciation for the land. Their 45-minute

 

planned visit stretched to three hours of filming. More fun.

 

 

 

Debra Hodkin

 

Barstow Route 66 Mother Road Museum

 

www.barstow66museum.itgo.com

 

 

 

 

 

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Barstow Desert Dispatch - Front Page

 

Friday, July 9, 2004

 

 

 

Barstow featured in European documentary

 

 

 

By LISA HART/Staff Writer

 

 

 

BARSTOW -- Lights and cameras decorated the Route 66 Mother Road Museum on

 

Thursday, after Austrian filmmaker Herbert Krill brought his crew to Barstow.

 

 

 

Lisa Hart/Staff Photographer

 

Debra Hodkin (center) talks about Route 66 and Barstow as she is filmed by

 

Roland Breitschuh (left) and Monika Allegretti on Thursday for a documentary

 

called "American Space," produced by Austrian filmmaker, Herbert Krill.

 

 

 

Krill, who has been making documentaries since 1986, came to Barstow to get

 

footage for his new film, "American Space," a follow-up to his 2003 film

 

called

 

"American Psyche."

 

 

 

The documentary will focus on the concept of space, and how the wide, open

 

lands of America have influenced the American character.

 

 

 

Krill said he first learned about Barstow from a feature film by German

 

filmmaker Uli Lommel and was attracted by the charm of the town while driving

 

through last December with his wife.

 

 

 

"I think many Europeans would find Barstow a very interesting destination

 

because of the history here and because it is so easy to access," Krill said.

 

 

 

He said he wants to explore American expansion and the country's need for

 

open space from a European perspective, and from his trip through "today's

 

America," plans to show a European audience what he feels makes America so

 

unique.

 

 

 

"I think that Europeans, after they have seen the main things like Los

 

Angeles and Disneyland, will become interested in all the places in between,"

 

he

 

said.

 

 

 

Museum Curator Debra Hodkin said Krill contacted her regarding the film

 

Wednesday, so she tried to gather some community members with classic cars to

 

be

 

featured.

 

 

 

Arnie Thompson, a member of the Barstow car club, "Just Cruisin' 4 Fun," came

 

to the museum with his car and some of his fellow club members to

 

participate.

 

 

 

"I support the museum," he said. "And I believe that anything that brings

 

people here helps the community."

 

 

 

The 45-minute-long television documentary, which will air in Austria, Germany

 

and France later this year, will feature images and interviews from across

 

America, including the Midwest to the Mojave Desert.

 

 

 

In addition to shots from the museum itself, Krill also interviewed Hodkin.

 

 

 

She said people are fascinated with Route 66 because of its symbolism as the

 

one road that brought everyone together.

 

 

 

Contact the writer: (760) 256-4123 or lisa_hart@link.freedom.com

 

 

 

Check out

 

 

 

http://www.desertdispatch.com/cgi-bin/news...1089381002,2991,

 

7, or desertdispatch.com

 

local newspaper's front page story

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The following AMERICAN_ROAD poll is now closed. Here are the

 

final results:

 

 

 

 

 

POLL QUESTION: In the interest in clarifying the

 

issue, I'm creating a new poll. It's

 

simple. Do you or do you not want to

 

recertify Route 66 as a United States

 

Highway.

 

 

 

CHOICES AND RESULTS

 

- Do you want to recertify United States Route 66 as a Federal Highway?, 2

 

votes, 28.57%

 

- Do you want to leave Route 66 as it is?, 5 votes, 71.43%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The following AMERICAN_ROAD poll is now closed. Here are the

 

final results:

 

 

 

 

 

POLL QUESTION: 1) I believe that every effort should

 

be made to help ailing, historic

 

businesses on old Route 66 by

 

increasing leisure and recreational

 

traffic on the old road even if aging

 

and historic infrastructure needs have

 

to be addressed. 2) I believe every

 

effort should be made to hold traffic

 

to current (2004) levels to preserve

 

pavement and bridges even if it means

 

that some motels and diners might have

 

to go out of business. 3) I believe

 

there should be less traffic on Route

 

66 to slow the deterioration process

 

of historic pavements and bridges. I

 

don't care about the businesses. 4) I

 

don't care about either pavement or

 

businesses, I just want to drive my

 

car by myself and be left alone.

 

 

 

CHOICES AND RESULTS

 

- 1). Increase traffic to help businsesses, 7 votes, 100.00%

 

- 2). Keep traffic levels the same even if businsses suffer, 0 votes, 0.00%

 

- 3). Cut traffic to save of pavement and bridges, 0 votes, 0.00%

 

- 4) Don't care either way, 0 votes, 0.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The following AMERICAN_ROAD poll is now closed. Here are the

 

final results:

 

 

 

 

 

POLL QUESTION: The preservation of the actual Route

 

(U.S.) 66 numbered designation should

 

be a major part of any Route 66

 

preservation effort. The preservation

 

of the 66 number should include, but

 

not be limited to: Installation and

 

maintenance of roadside re-assurance

 

markers and clear, concise directional

 

markers at all junctions and

 

interchanges *AND* the appearance of

 

the familiar 66 "shield" icon on all

 

online and paper maps. In otherwords,

 

any preservation movement to save

 

landmarks and infrastructure should

 

also include saving the 66 numbered

 

desingation itself.

 

 

 

CHOICES AND RESULTS

 

- Yes, It should be included, 8 votes, 72.73%

 

- No, just save the pavement and the landmarks, 3 votes, 27.27%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest R. Droz

The quick and dirty history of US 14:

 

US 14 was assigned in 1926, extending from Winona, MN to Philip, SD. It

 

extended west to Whitewood, SD in 1928, then it was extended east to

 

Chicago, IL (near Wrigley Field) in 1933. US 14 was eExtended futher west to

 

Cody, WY 1934. East end in Chicago was shifted to the modern location in

 

1938, the same year it was extended west to Yellowstone NP. The current

 

length is 1398 miles, the maximum length was 1429 miles.

 

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U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__

 

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Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps

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Guest Jennifer

Hi all,

 

 

 

I finally had a chance to put up the page at my site for the Route 66

 

Classic Car Festival in Litchfield, IL from two weeks ago.

 

 

 

There's lots of photos - actor Paul LeMat ("John Milner" in American

 

Graffiti) with the 1932 Deuce Coupe from the film; lots of classic

 

cars (including Pat's 1965 Corvair); the Ariston Cafe at night; Art's

 

Motel in Farmersville; Funk's Grove; Atlanta; Lexington and Chenoa.

 

Even a two story outhouse!!

 

 

 

http://www.roadtripmemories.com/trips/litchfield2004.htm

 

 

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Jennifer

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Guest Jennifer

Just a reminder about the program tonight - I'm eagerly counting down

 

the time!!

 

 

 

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Brian A. Butko" <babutko@hswp.org>

 

Date: Fri Jul 9, 2004 1:18 pm

 

Subject: PBS roadside show this Sunday

 

 

 

 

 

ADVERTISEMENT

 

 

 

 

 

"A Program about Unusual Buildings & Other Roadside Stuff" will air

 

on most PBS

 

stations this Sunday July 11, 8 pm.

 

 

 

It's produced by Rick Sebak who also did shows on ice cream,

 

amusement parks,

 

and hot dogs.

 

 

 

My wife Sarah and I talk briefly at Kentucky's Wigwam Village about

 

our next

 

book, Roadside Giants. Owner Ivan is also interviewed.

 

 

 

We just returned from a 5000-mile roadtrip - with 3 kids - visiting

 

the Gemini

 

Giant (and Launching Pad restaurant) on Rt 66 in Wilmington, Ill.,

 

Denver's hot

 

dog-shaped hot dog stand, etc. What a BIG country, but we're ready to

 

do it

 

again.

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

http://www.brianbutko.com

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Guest Alex Burr

Neat, Allen. Loved the juxtopisiton of the Mickey D

 

arches with the Tropics sign. LOL

 

 

 

Hudosnly,

 

Alex B

 

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> I just dropped a couple more photos of mine in the

 

> folder marked

 

> Allens more stuff in the photos section.

 

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> Allen

 

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Brian drove his 1930 Nash out on Santa Monica Pier at approximately 5:30 PM

 

PDT on July 11, 2004, to the cheers of thousands of well wishers. Needless to

 

say, it was a very emotion day for Brian, and for all of us who have been

 

following Brian's incredible journey.

 

 

 

Look for additional reports when we all come down from Cloud 9.

 

 

 

Helen Baker

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Guest M. Macedo

I found this information on the web site of Randy Garbin who took

 

part in the History Channel show.

 

 

 

Highway Hangouts: Biting the hand

 

 

 

For those of you that missed it, the History Channel

 

aired a third installment of its Highway Hangouts

 

series last week. Entitled "Eat and Run," this show

 

focused on roadside eateries, including the "great

 

American diner."

 

 

 

The show also included shots of yours truly as one of

 

the several "experts" on roadside culture. The program

 

also included Peter Genovese, Brian Butko, Jim

 

Heimann, and a smattering of the folks that actually

 

operate some of the roadside attractions featured as

 

examples of the genre.

 

 

 

Given the show's pedigree as a commercial program on a

 

low-budget cable network, we shouldn't expect much.

 

Riddled with cliche, rife with incongruent supporting

 

video, and narrated by the 84-year-old Mason Adams,

 

who's down-home voice now sounds like a thick coat of

 

frosting on a bucket of saccharine, the program yanked

 

just about every nostalgic string it could grasp

 

during its two-hour run.

 

 

 

OF COURSE, the producers just had to show diner

 

waitresses speaking "diner lingo." OF COURSE we had to

 

see people sitting in '57 Chevy's. And OF COURSE, we

 

had to devote a quarter of the program to Route 66. I

 

guess people drove along no other road in this

 

country, though I faintly recall reading a few things

 

about something called the Lincoln Highway which

 

actually stretched coast to coast.

 

 

 

I did learn a few things. The show spent some quality

 

time with a few attractions that haven't had much of

 

their own publicity, including the Clam Box and the

 

Java Jive. Also, seeing Harold Kullman of Kullman

 

Industries and Jack Mulholland of the Mayfair Diner

 

talk about their respective businesses of building and

 

operating diners gave the diner segment most of its

 

credibility. In fact, I wish the producers spent more

 

time with folks such as these and less with the

 

talking heads. After all, those in the trenches of

 

this culture have much more interesting stories to

 

tell, and in fact, provide all the source material

 

anyway.

 

 

 

The show also lavished considerable screen time to

 

John Margolies and Michael Stern. Margolies has

 

authored nearly a dozen books on the subject of the

 

American roadside, covering everything from mini-golf

 

to travel brochures.

 

 

 

Michael Stern constitutes the male half of the

 

RoadFood royal couple along with Jane, his wife. The

 

pair write books and articles that have appeared in

 

many major magazines and newspapers, which have

 

established them the nations preeminent over-the-road

 

dining mavens. I've previously called the Sterns to

 

task for their snide, condescending, almost nasty

 

commentary about local food and the people that work

 

the business. Seeing them trotted out as experts on

 

diners frankly does a tremendous disservice to their

 

readers and especially to the diner industry.

 

 

 

I give the couple credit for shining the spotlight on

 

many deserving gems. But too often they bestow their

 

praise in snotty, backhanded fashion delivered high

 

from their Fairfield County perch. On the radio, the

 

drawling whine of their voices could only find fans

 

among those who'd rarely risk leaving their Hummer H2

 

to chance a mingling with the lowly plebeian regulars

 

in such places. But if Jane and Michael says its okay,

 

then it's time to go slumming.

 

 

 

At least Stern has a palatable on-screen persona. The

 

producers of this program nearly shot themselves in

 

the foot by allowing Margolies to get so much face

 

time on this program. Is it just me, or did you also

 

squirm every time the camera cut to this guy?

 

 

 

John Margolies is one of several authors of the past

 

decade who has churned out book after book that I

 

would describe as "gee whiz" displays of their

 

personal collections of photographs and ephemera. In a

 

sense, these books -- which also include those by Karl

 

Michael Witzel -- do some good by calling the

 

mainstream's attention to threatened roadside culture

 

and enterprise.

 

 

 

While it's generally easy to dismiss Witzel's efforts

 

out of hand as pandering, poorly researched, badly

 

produced, albeit pretty picture books, Margolies has

 

established a notable career for himself as the New

 

York Times puts it, "America's premier chronicler of

 

architectural kitsch." He's currently an Alicia

 

Patterson Foundation Fellow, which has awarded him a

 

one-year grant of $35,000 to pursue independent

 

projects of significant interest and to write articles

 

based on his investigations for the APF Reporter. The

 

Highway Hangouts series is based largely upon

 

Margolies's body of work.

 

 

 

Yet Margolies may have based his career on a false

 

pretense as well. When Witzel published the otherwise

 

awful American Diner, he used a great deal of the work

 

of a photographer named Pedar Ness. Ness's photos of

 

diners and other roadside gems dated from the 1960s

 

and 1970s, a period when only a handful of people

 

recognized the value of this type of architecture. I

 

met with Ness three years ago when I traveled to Los

 

Angeles, and he claims that his early photographs

 

provided Margolies with a kind of visual reference

 

from which to base his own work. Ness had claimed that

 

he sought to publish a book of his photos and happened

 

to submit his proposal complete with original slides

 

to an agent who also worked with Margolies.

 

 

 

According to Ness, the agent rejected his proposal,

 

but his slides came back to him in complete disarray

 

-- as if someone had pulled apart the portfolio to

 

make copies. Some time later, Margolies had published

 

his first book and began presenting slide shows using

 

photos identical to Ness's, except, as Ness explained

 

it: "He cleaned up the scene. Swept away the trash."

 

Ness says he later attended one of Margolies's slide

 

presentations, but when he introduced himself,

 

Margolies wouldn't so much as look at him.

 

 

 

It's a sad irony that some of the most successful and

 

notable chroniclers of this proud and honorable aspect

 

of our history and heritage -- rich with tales of

 

honest, hard working folk struggling to do something

 

good for themselves, their families, and their

 

communities -- have fashioned careers upon such thin

 

or dubious credentials.

 

 

 

With that in mind, I look forward to seeing Rick

 

Seback's next production due out next summer. As I

 

write, you can find Rick roaming the country visiting

 

large buildings "that look like something else." Rick

 

has already produced an impressive body of work for

 

his station WQED in Pittsburgh and for PBS with

 

programs such as the "Pennsylvania Road Show," "A Hot

 

Dog Show," "The Ice Cream Show," and "Pittsburgh A to

 

Z." While not exactly scholarly, the programs are

 

honest, and at least I know that Rick really loves

 

this stuff.

 

 

 

And so it goes.

 

 

 

Randy Garbin

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