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October 5, 2004

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@y...>

wrote:

>

> --- Kathy Miller <kath708@y...> wrote:

> > David,

> > You made me chuckle. You're right of course but it

> > made me chuckle. I didn't know as a kid growing up

> > that the Dan Ryan had a route number at all. Then when

> > I did find out it was East and West I-94 that mixed me

> > up even more, because here it runs north and south.

> > Simply didn't make sense to a young girl.

> > Kath

> > Illinois, Where the road begins!

>

> In Dallas/Ft. Worth its just insane. Listening to the traffic

reports on the

> radio is a hoot. There is a backup on northbound I-35 EAST, a

wreck on

> southbound I-35 WEST, and construction on eastboad Northwest

Highway.

>

O'Hare Airport is north of my house about 20 miles. To get there, I

would take the Eisenhower EAST, then the Kennedy WEST.

North Avenue runs east and west, Western is north and south, and

Southport is on the north side of town only. South Water street is

only on the East side, running east and west.

Then there is the whole issue of vanity addresses. Chicago has

finally moved to curtail this practice as it began to get out of

hand. Vanity Addresses are names that look "prestigious" on a

business card or letterhead, but they bear no relation to any real

street address. We have a series of high rises named "1 North

Riverside Plaza" and "10 South Riverside Plaza," but there is no

street named "Riverside Plaza." All of these buildings are on Canal

Street. One Magnificent Mile is a building somewhere on north

Michigan Avenue--I've never quite figured out which one.

All of this is needlessly confusing, since Chicago is actually

fairly easy to navigate once you get used to the grid system of the

surface streets and a few important diagonal streets.

Dave C.

October 5, 2004

In a message dated 5/22/03 4:53:15 AM Central Daylight Time,

olympia66@netzero.net writes:

<< Streets are referred

to by name ONLY--Irving Park Road, Elston Avenue, Western Avenue,

Clybourn, 35th Street, Roosevelt Road. Its as if the route number

signs posted on the corners are completely invisible to the natives. >>

To further confuse things here, The streets have different names in different

places. RT. 45 is also known as LaGrange Road, even very far south of the

town of LaGrange. It is also known as 9600 west. Meaning that is 9600 blocks

west

the middle of the city of Chicago at State and Madison, that is the 0/0

block. Anything north of Madison is considered the North Side, anything South,

the

southside. West of State Street in the West Side and anything East of that is

considered the East side.

The South side is all north/south roads and east/west roads. The only 2

diagonally streets are Southwest Highway,,,,aka RT 7 And Archer Ave aka 171. If

you go to the North Side there are all kinds of highways that go Diagonally. I

actually lost several times trying to go around the block.

As an afterthought you might notice that the roads I mentioned the names of

the Road instead of the Rt numbers......LOL It is a "Chicago" thing

from a south sider,

Lulu

October 5, 2004

I received my copy of American Road yesterday. What a quality

publication!! Beautiful photos, great articles, and will appeal to so

many! Congrats to all involved!!

Ron (in Tulsa)

October 5, 2004

In a message dated 5/22/03 3:34:49 PM Central Daylight Time,

hester_nec@yahoo.com writes:

<< You forgot Harry Hiney Blvd in Big D. LOL >>

Ok I give What is this and where is it?

Lulu

October 5, 2004

You forgot Harry Hiney Blvd in Big D. LOL

Hudsonly,

Alex B

--- Bobby Worley <bwcobra15@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> --- Kathy Miller <kath708@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > David,

> > You made me chuckle. You're right of course but

> it

> > made me chuckle. I didn't know as a kid growing up

> > that the Dan Ryan had a route number at all. Then

> when

> > I did find out it was East and West I-94 that

> mixed me

> > up even more, because here it runs north and

> south.

> > Simply didn't make sense to a young girl.

> > Kath

> > Illinois, Where the road begins!

>

> In Dallas/Ft. Worth its just insane. Listening to

> the traffic reports on the

> radio is a hoot. There is a backup on northbound

> I-35 EAST, a wreck on

> southbound I-35 WEST, and construction on eastboad

> Northwest Highway.

>

> Then of course we have freeways named for dead

> people so out-of-towners have

> no idea where they are, or how to find them. There

> is the Tom Landry,

> Woodall Rodgers, Stemmons, RL Thornton, Marvin D.

> Love, LBJ, CF Hawn, Walton

> Walker - and those are just the FREEways! Not to

> mention like every other

> metropolis, city, town, community, neighborhood and

> wide-spot-in-the-road of

> America - Big D. has their MARTIN LUTHER KING

> Boulevard... BUT, we also have

> a MALCOLM X Blvd! Yee haw -- we got all the bases

> covered!

>

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--- Lulupic66@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/22/03 3:34:49 PM Central Daylight Time,

> hester_nec@yahoo.com writes:

>

> << You forgot Harry Hiney Blvd in Big D. LOL >>

> Ok I give What is this and where is it?

> Lulu

Harry HINES blvd. is in Dallas (Big D). Back in the day it was the

latest-greatest in ultra-modern .... today its beaten down with strip clubs,

xxx video, Korean thrift stores and those of the oldest profession; amongst

other less-than-debaucherous venues... such as the Hole in the Wall - a biker

bar burger/beer joint that I play da' blues at once a week. Its on HH just

south of LBJ.

Okay.. now if your really sensitive to xxx talk close your eyes and

<delete>...

One of my blues buddies recently made a hilarious reference to that part of

Big D where those of the same-sex attractions congregate: Peter Springs and

Cockmorton (i.e., Cedar Springs and Throckmorton)... heheheh.. )

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October 6, 2004

and I, too, am enjoying starting in on it. I was happy to recognize

a familiar urban legend on page 12, as well as to soak up the highway

pieces. A further treatment of it is at <A

HREF="http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grannies.htm">

http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grannies.htm</A> for those

interested.

October 7, 2004

Hi,

I just came back after doing the Illinois route 66 motor tour last week end.

This year they did the tour from StLouis to Chicago.

They actually started on the Missouri side of the Chain of rocks bridge. The

tour drove across the bridge!!! Yes, they opened the bridge up and lets us

drive across the bridge to the Illinois side. Over 200 cars. What an

opportunity. I have some great pictures of the bridge with cars on it.

We also drove over sections of the highway that were put in around 1926. Just a

whole lot of good times.

Plus we dedicated the installation of one of the icons that was recently moved

to Atlanta Illinois. The Paul Bunyon statue now has a permanent location there.

They really did a nice job with it.

Of course just the drive along 66 from StLouis to chicago was great too.

If any questions about the trip, just let me know. Always glad to talk about

one of our great roads.

Bill Kruser

October 7, 2004

How about the date Angel started the Arizona movement and a short life

history of him ?

Don

October 7, 2004

Hi, Shellee:

Nice seeing you again in Tulsa. Here's a few items for your calendar-

-

January 17, 1977

The date the last 66 shield came down in Illinois, after 66 was

decommissioned.

Also, a link that has lots of highway history information but not

specific to 66 (therefore a lot of searching is required):

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/byday/intro.htm

This is the Federal Highway Administration's "FWHA By Day" site,

listing the history of the Highway Administration by calendar day.

For instance, under August 2nd, we have this unfortunate bit of news

about the year 1956:

"The Missouri State Highway Commission awards a construction

contract for 13.3 miles of U.S. 66 (I-44) in Laclede County. BPR

District Engineer S. W. O'Brien telephones Headquarters to confirm

that it is the first Interstate contract awarded under the 1956

Federal-Aid Highway Act."

This one is a bit better, from December 30, in the year 1940:

"Governor Culbert Olson dedicates California's first freeway, the

Arroyo Seco Parkway (renamed the Pasadena Freeway in 1954), built

with funding from the Works Progress Administration, the Public

Works Administration, and over $500,000 from the PRA, as well as

State and local agencies."

The blurb does not mention it, but of course the Arroyo Seco was

also 66.

Okay, one more, January 2, 1927:

"BPR announces the location of routes designated as part of the U.S.

highway system. AASHO had approved the locations at its annual

meeting on November 11, 1926, but public announcement was withheld

until maps could be prepared and issued today."

I can't resist...one more with gusto--May 12, 1967:

"A Life magazine article, "Bitterest Fight: New Mass Transit vs.

More Highways," charges that, "huge chunks of revenue producing

downtown land are being eaten up." The article prompts a rebuttal in

the June issue of Highway User magazine, which states that Life's

serious charges are "patently untrue."

"Highways can destroy our country as permanently as bombs."

Life

May 12, 1967"

Dave Clark

Windy City Road Warrior

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham

<SHELLEE66@E...> wrote:

> Hey folks,

>

> Just wanted to let you know that it

> looks pretty good that I'll be doing

> a 2006 calendar of ROUTE 66 images.

>

> Just wondered (and I haven't started looking on the web just

yet...) if

> anyone knew of some great sources on significant dates of Route 66

history.

> The first one that comes to mind is November 11th-birthday of US

66; maybe

> something like Cy Avery's birthday, the decommissioning of the

highway,

> final paving, etc. We could have individual state information as

well.

>

> I have some dates about the Coral Court, but you knew that. :-)

>

> Just thought I'd throw that out. IF anyone has reliable, factual

dates/facts

> about the road, I'd be happy to have those LINKS, your notes,

messages, etc.

>

> Feel free to pass along this message to the interested parties.

>

> And THANK YOU very much for your support.

>

> Shellee G.

> St. Looey

>

> --------------

> Shellee Graham

>

> http://www.smithkramer.com/exhibitions.php?id=16

October 7, 2004

I got word that Brian passed by Goffs, CA, sometime yesterday (7/9).

Denizens of the desert community reported that they missed seeing him, but that

he'd

left a note at the bulletin board.

In a previous message, Brian said he planned to stay in Ludlow, so best guess

is, that's where he was last night (7/9). Ludlow is about 50 miles east of

Barstow. Today (7/10) should find Brian passing by the Bagdad Cafe in Newberry

Springs and then visiting the Mother Road Museum in Barstow.

Please post any 'Brian sightings,' as there are members of The Nash Car Club

of America and the Route 66 community waiting to welcome Brian as he heads

down from Cajon Summit and makes his way toward Los Angeles. They also plan a

celebration in Santa Monica, when he reaches the end of his momentous journey,

but are having trouble gauging his ETA.

All I can say, is that Brian is just, HAVING TOO MUCH FUN, LIVING HIS DREAM

OF A LIFETIME ON ROUTE 66!

Helen Baker

October 7, 2004

Just a reminder to alert you to the Route 66 Association of Missouri

14th Annual Motor Tour on September 5th, 6th, and 7th. The

tour, "Cruise to the Caverns," will begin in Joplin on Friday evening

with music and cruise options; as checking out the spooklight, '66

Drive-In Theater, etc. This year's motor tour will feature a poker

run format on Saturday that will run from Joplin to our overnight

destination in Waynesville. A picnic dinner catered by Big Will's

Barbecue will be held in the Waynesville City Park. Sunday's agenda

includes a planned bus tour of Ft. Leonard Wood, a walking tour of

the murals in downtown Cuba, and a final run to Meramec Caverns for

discounted cave tours and boat rides. Our official association site

contains a registration form that can be downloaded and more info

regarding the motor tour. See:

http://www.missouri66.org/motortour_press.html

Still Cruisin' Route 66,

Bliss & Navigator

October 7, 2004

Places, Places, Everyone!

Brian just called (7/10), he's in Barstow and plans to be in Santa Monica

tomorrow afternoon (Sunday 7/11). I think that it's great timing as he'll come

through LA on it's slowest traffic day and hit Santa Monica during it's maximum

visitation time.

Great exposure. A press agent's dream!

And, yes Scott, Brian does want to visit Santa Monica Pier!

Brian camped last night (7/9) under a clear desert sky somewhere between

Ludlow and Newberry Springs. He said that the road between Amboy and Ludlow was

rough and he had to keep his speed (?) down to 5 miles per hour. Brian said

that his original concept of the Mojave Desert, that of a landscape similar to

the pictures he'd seen of the Sahara, was shattered. He was astounded by the

mountains and vegetation that he saw, with each new rise in the road bringing a

more spectacular sight. The rain that was promised to the area yesterday,

never arrived, but there were a few moments of shade from passing clouds. Brian

said that several times, the views actually took his breathe away and he had

to stop in order to take it all in. One particular time he came through a

draw and saw two roads stretching far out before him only to disappear in the

mountains on the horizon. One of course was Route 66 and the other may well

have

been an old wagon road. In a touch of whimsy, Brian mentioned that his Great

Great Grandfather left Canada in 1848 for California and was never heard from

again, he wondered if perhaps, long ago his Grandfather may have traveled

some of this same terrain, perhaps even on that other elusive road.

Helen Baker

October 7, 2004

Carolyn,

Hello. Glad you had a great trip!

Should have looked me up, would have loved to have lunch or tour around

in old

Colorado City or something (great Vintage and artisan shopping) We have

met a time or two at other festivals.

(By the way, that invite goes out to any Colorado visitors, let us know,

we can show a good time too here)

Many roads here in Colorado keep me in a 66 state of mind as for other

66 Roadies too

here like Chris Tomkus. Since I missed Tulsa, this year, work

obligations really messed it up for me,

and my schedule is not looking too clear this fall, I frequently have to

substitute to keep my mind in a

Route 66 state.

That particular stretch of road is old US 24 through Manitou and

Colorado City, the first

Capitol of Colorado before Denver became it. That road is definitely a

winding road up through the

Canyons north of Pikes Peak. US 24 was a wagon route originally also

into the vast geological area of South

Park, Colorado which gave many homesteaders access to silver, gold, and

great grazing lands due

to high water tables and such. This area is now home to many reservoirs

(great fishing) and supplies over 35% of

the Colorado population their daily water.

When you are young and wild, these types of roads seem to pass in our

minds as normal everyday

trips without a notice to the continuing history and vitality of them.

But ever since

I read, Mike's Route 66, some 8-9 years ago, I think twice about every

road I travel, literally, and

in a life sense also, to give it proper due. What am I saying? I am

still wild and young but with

insight now.

Would love to hear from the groups, what roads, when not on the Mother

Road, put you into

a 66 State of Mind, maybe in your home states. I am always looking to

expand my horizons and

if I can't get out of the house, this helps my state of mind.

For me in Colorado: US 6 across the whole state, US 40 (National Road)

across the whole

state, Colorado Hwy 7 (Peak to Peak Highway), US Highway 85 North to

South across the whole state (if you can find all

the original alignments including Playground Trail), US 24, US 50 - The

Lincoln Highway, US Hwy 550 - The San Juan Skyway.

Dave Willman

Aka 66 Willy

Aurora, CO (Denver is our western suburb)

<mailto:dwillman66@attbi.com>

-----Original Message-----

From: Carolyn Hasenfratz [mailto:limegr@ezl.com]

Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:12 AM

To: route66@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [route66] Route 66 State of Mind

Hi,

I'm back in town (got back Wednesday afternoon) after travelling to

Glacier National Park and the Colorado Springs/Denver metro areas. I

enjoyed the earlier post about being in a Route 66 state of mind even

when you're not on Route 66 - I experienced that in West Glacier

Montana (and some of the other small towns around Glacier National

Park) and Manitou Springs, Colorado. Why? They both boast a large

quantity of charming, intact, vintage tourist courts with excellent

signage. Many of them are still in separate cottage format. In my pre-

Route 66 days I've visited West Glacier before, and drove down West

Colorado Ave. through Manitou Springs every day for two years on the

way to work (while I lived in Green Mtn. Falls) and did not

appreciate them the way I do now. So if you're ever in either of

those places, check them out! I kept thinking "Too bad these aren't

on Route 66", then mentally reminded myself that wasn't logical -

just enjoy them for what they are.

Carolyn

(Jeep Girl)

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www.chasenfratz.com (in progress!)

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October 7, 2004

Why limit yourselves to Barnes and Noble? I like a stand in

Greenfield, WI that I couldn't name if my life depended on it. They

carry all sorts of magazines on all sorts of stuff and I like

treasure hunting.

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "beckyrepp" <becky@m...> wrote:

> Hi everyone. I see that a few of you have had a bit of trouble

finding

> AMERICAN ROAD in various Barnes & Noble Stores. AMERICAN ROAD is

> carried in approximately 100 Barnes & Noble Stores across the US. I

can look

> them up by state. It looks as if Rich was looking in the state of

NY. Here is the

> address listing of B&N stores in NY that carry AMERICAN ROAD:

>

> -20 Wolf Road; Colonie, NY

>

> -Country Glen S C 91 Old Country Road, Carle Place, NY

>

> -1972 Broadway, NY, NY

>

> -821 Country Rd 64, Elmira NY 14901

>

> -495 South Road, Pughkeepsie, NY

>

> -3454 Erie Blvd East Syracuse, NY

>

> -842 Sunrise Highway, Bayshore, NY 11706

>

> -122 Fifth Ave. 4th Flr, NY, NY

>

> The distributor also included three other stores in the NY area:

>

> -Global Ink Inc., 2876 Broadway, NY, NY

>

> -Shaker News @ 724 Loudon Rd, Lantham NY

>

> -Fairview Books 160 Fairview Ave, Hudson, NY

>

> I also include below a listing of Barnes & Noble stores in

California for the

> individual in Calif. seeking an issue of AMERICAN ROAD:

>

> -Market Square 1725 Arden Way, Sacramento CA

>

> -1600 Gateway Blvd, Fairfield, CA

>

> -3485 Tyler St, Riverside, CA

>

> -1440 Bear Valley Rd #107, Victorville, CA

>

> -6050 El Cerrito Plaza, El Cerrito, CA

>

> -11090 Foothill Blvd, Rancho Cucamonga

>

> --40570 Winchester Rd, Temecula CA

>

> The other shop that is listed in California is Fog City News at 455

Market St,

> Ste 125, San Francisco, CA 94105

>

> Colorado & Arkansas stores are listed below:

>

> -Hastings: Conway Town Center #04, 1360 W Old Morrilton Hwy, Conway

AR

>

> -Hastings: Jacksonville Plaza Ctr., 915 W Main Jacksonville, AR

>

> -Hastings: Military Plaza 1203 Military Rd, Benton, AR

>

> --Hastings: Festa Square S/C 2999 North College Ave, Fayetteville

AR

>

> --Hastings: 1315 S Caraway Plaza, Jonesboro AR

>

> --3051 East Main, Russelville AR

>

> --Hastings, 105 North Poplar, Searcy AR

>

> --Hastings: 6800 Rogers #A, Ft Smith, AR

>

> --Hastings: 950 Highway 62 East Mountain Home, AR

>

> --Hastings: 2340 Harrison St, Batesville, AR

>

> --Hastings: 2400 West Sunset, Springdale, AR

>

> Colorado:

>

> --B&N: 4045 S College Ave, Fort Collins, CO

>

> --B&N: 2451 Patterson Rd, Grand Junction, CO

>

> --Hastings: 2401 North Ave, Grand Junction CO

>

> --Hastings 2201-D S. Townsend Ave, Montrose, CO 81401

>

> --Hastings: 3015 23rd Ave, Greely CO 80631

>

> This information is taken from a list that was sent to me by our

distributor when

> the Spring issue mailed. They only receive a list from the

wholesaler that

> stocks for Barnes & Noble & Hastings stores. I also left a message

with our

> representative to inquire as to why the Barnes & Noble stores are

not being

> more helpful to customers making an inquiry about AMERICAN ROAD. I

hope

> to learn more about that tomorrow.

>

> In the meantime, I recommend that if you are in a shop that does

not stock

> AMERICAN ROAD that you request that start carrying it. If they are

not familiar

> with AMERICAN ROAD let them know it was in the Top 30 New Magazines

> (out of 948 new publications) that came out last year. Incidently,

since there

> were 948 new magazines last year it might explain why the sales

clerks are

> not familiar with every title! One note, I have heard from some

folks that

> newsstands, in particular, are generally very happy to learn about

new titles

> and order them for their customers.

>

> Feel free to give a store representative needing information about

stocking

> AMERICAN ROAD my phone number--206-369-5782 and I will direct them

> down the appropriate path. You can give them the ISSN# 1542-4316

and/or

> the Bar Code/UPC information is: 0-74470-57928-1 to facilitate them

looking

> up the information in the database system. Alternatively, you may

give them

> the number for Prestige Periodicals--914-684-2317.

>

> Please e-mail me directly at becky@m... if you are trying to

> find AMERICAN ROAD at a B&N or Hastings store in your state--as I

check my

> e-mail quite frequently. I am happy to look up that information.

>

> Two other points also should be mentioned. You may want to check

your local

> library to learn if they carry a subscription to AMERICAN ROAD. If

they do not,

> they often will act upon requests from their clients. And, finally,

if you are

> striking out on all fronts, or even if you are not, you may order a

single copy

> from us.

>

> I hope that the information in this message is helpful.

>

> Have a great evening!

> Becky Repp

> becky@m...

> toll free: 1-877-285-5434 (press x15 to speak with one of us--if we

are on the

> phone, do leave us a message and we will gladly return your call).

October 7, 2004

I read several articles this week about US 666 being renumbered due to the

biblical references to 666 being the sign of the devil.

I find it unfortunate that enough people were bothered by a numerical

coincidence to cause such a change.

The lord fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. Sure hope they don't renumber the

remaining parts of US 40.

Glenn Adams

glenninvegas@juno.com

http://www.lasvegasregion.com

October 7, 2004

Well, in some circles I imagine that could be

considered "politically Incorrect."

Hudsonly,

Alex B

--- Glenn <glenninvegas@juno.com> wrote:

>

> I read several articles this week about US 666 being

> renumbered due to the biblical references to 666

> being the sign of the devil.

>

> I find it unfortunate that enough people were

> bothered by a numerical coincidence to cause such a

> change.

>

> The lord fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. Sure

> hope they don't renumber the remaining parts of US

> 40.

>

> Glenn Adams

> glenninvegas@juno.com

> http://www.lasvegasregion.com

>

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October 8, 2004

For those of you who have not gathered by now, Helen and I have been

working on getting "an event" together for Brian's arrival in Santa

Monica at the symbolic end of the road. We've written a press

release that Helen has sent out, and Helen has gotten the word out to

the local Nash club. We should have a pretty good gathering. Kevin

Hansel from the California Historic Route 66 Association will be

there as well. We are not sure yet what time tomorrow (Sunday, 7/11)

we will be hitting Santa Monica, but I expect it to be in the

evening. Anyone who wants to join us, but is not sure what time,

feel free to give me a ring on my cell phone (818-207-0358) and I

will give the best update that I can. Of course, I will be shooting

video and photographs of Brian as he is driving through some of the

Arroyo Seco area, and then I'll high-tail it over to Santa Monica to

set up out there. Hope to see quite a few of you tomorrow!

Scott Piotrowski

Director, 66 Productions

Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation

October 8, 2004

This really came into the public consciousness as a result of the movie

The Exorcist. I went to see the movie when it first came out, and this

was the first time I had heard of this. I was a little worried upon

leaving

the theatre because, believe it or not, I had a red stationwagon with

666 in the license plate number!

slim

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:58:12 GMT Glenn <glenninvegas@juno.com> writes:

>

> I read several articles this week about US 666 being renumbered due

> to the biblical references to 666 being the sign of the devil.

>

> I find it unfortunate that enough people were bothered by a

> numerical coincidence to cause such a change.

>

> The lord fasted for 40 days and 40 nights. Sure hope they don't

> renumber the remaining parts of US 40.

>

> Glenn Adams

> glenninvegas@juno.com

> http://www.lasvegasregion.com

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----- Original Message -----

From: Bakerhab@aol.com

To: Bakerhab@aol.com

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:20 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 1930 Nash - Brian McKay Plans To Be In Santa Monica

7/11/04

Places, Places, Everyone!

Brian just called (7/10), he's in Barstow and plans to be in Santa Monica

tomorrow afternoon (Sunday 7/11). I think that it's great timing as he'll

come

through LA on it's slowest traffic day and hit Santa Monica during it's

maximum

visitation time.

Great exposure. A press agent's dream!

And, yes Scott, Brian does want to visit Santa Monica Pier!

Brian camped last night (7/9) under a clear desert sky somewhere between

Ludlow and Newberry Springs. He said that the road between Amboy and Ludlow

was

rough and he had to keep his speed (?) down to 5 miles per hour. Brian said

that his original concept of the Mojave Desert, that of a landscape similar to

the pictures he'd seen of the Sahara, was shattered. He was astounded by the

mountains and vegetation that he saw, with each new rise in the road bringing

a

more spectacular sight. The rain that was promised to the area yesterday,

never arrived, but there were a few moments of shade from passing clouds.

Brian

said that several times, the views actually took his breathe away and he had

to stop in order to take it all in. One particular time he came through a

draw and saw two roads stretching far out before him only to disappear in the

mountains on the horizon. One of course was Route 66 and the other may well

have

been an old wagon road. In a touch of whimsy, Brian mentioned that his Great

Great Grandfather left Canada in 1848 for California and was never heard from

again, he wondered if perhaps, long ago his Grandfather may have traveled

some of this same terrain, perhaps even on that other elusive road.

Helen Baker

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October 8, 2004

----- Original Message -----

From: Bakerhab@aol.com

To: Bakerhab@aol.com

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:20 PM

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 1930 Nash - Brian McKay Plans To Be In Santa Monica

7/11/04

Places, Places, Everyone!

Brian just called (7/10), he's in Barstow and plans to be in Santa Monica

tomorrow afternoon (Sunday 7/11). I think that it's great timing as he'll

come

through LA on it's slowest traffic day and hit Santa Monica during it's

maximum

visitation time.

Great exposure. A press agent's dream!

And, yes Scott, Brian does want to visit Santa Monica Pier!

Brian camped last night (7/9) under a clear desert sky somewhere between

Ludlow and Newberry Springs. He said that the road between Amboy and Ludlow

was

rough and he had to keep his speed (?) down to 5 miles per hour. Brian said

that his original concept of the Mojave Desert, that of a landscape similar to

the pictures he'd seen of the Sahara, was shattered. He was astounded by the

mountains and vegetation that he saw, with each new rise in the road bringing

a

more spectacular sight. The rain that was promised to the area yesterday,

never arrived, but there were a few moments of shade from passing clouds.

Brian

said that several times, the views actually took his breathe away and he had

to stop in order to take it all in. One particular time he came through a

draw and saw two roads stretching far out before him only to disappear in the

mountains on the horizon. One of course was Route 66 and the other may well

have

been an old wagon road. In a touch of whimsy, Brian mentioned that his Great

Great Grandfather left Canada in 1848 for California and was never heard from

again, he wondered if perhaps, long ago his Grandfather may have traveled

some of this same terrain, perhaps even on that other elusive road.

Helen Baker

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To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH

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October 8, 2004

Hi,

Does anyone have any information on U.S.14? This Hiway runs from the

north side of Chicago to Yellowstone Park Entrance.

If I can get enough background information, I would think about

travelling this highway and doing some photography of the places and

towns along it.

I am already working with IDOT in Illinois to try and get some background.

Thanks.

Bill Kruser

October 8, 2004

Greetings from Scotland!

Starting on the 22nd July I am driving my cousin's car from Baltimore, Md, to

Boulder, Co. I intend to travel across West Virginia, through Kentucky, onto St

Louis, Kansas City, across Kansas and into Colorado. Can anyone suggest which

highways I might use to avoid the Interstates, any interesting places I might

see during the trip, and are there any members of this group anywhere near my

route. I have seven , perhaps eight days to complete the trip.

Any suggestions as to routing or any other ideas or suggestions would be

gratefully received. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts,

Regards

Walter from Glasgow

October 8, 2004

The original route of U.S. 40 will serve your needs. It proceeds west from

Baltimore and will take you near Boulder. See

http://www.route40.net/index.shtml for lots of good information.

Of course, you will find that much of the road has been replaced by the

Intestate highways, but you can still trace the original path with a bit of

research. Try to locate a copy of Thomas & Geraldine Vale's US 40 Today in your

library. It's out of print, but it will make you want to see the towns and

features along the way.

-----Original Message-----

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Sent: Jul 10, 2004 4:07 PM

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Baltimore-Denver