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I've just spoken with a representative of the purchaser of the town of Amboy,

 

California. The representative that I spoke to said that they were trying to

 

put together an official announcement, and said they would get back to me

 

later today.

 

 

 

The sale entered escrow on March 28, 2005. I do know that the purchaser does

 

have a current connection to Route 66 in California.

 

 

 

Helen A. Baker

 

Secretary

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

5004 Enfield Avenue

 

Encino, California 91316

 

818-705-3930 (home)

 

818-983-5965 (cell)

 

bakerhab@aol.com

 

www.cart66pf.org

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> As of now, Pruett said she does not know when the window will be

 

> replaced. But she is going to put in an extremely noisy,

 

> "loudmouth" alarm system, she said.

 

 

 

I'd like to recommend an extremely noisy, loudmouth DOG. Even a

 

little one goes a long way. You never can tell who will wake up with

 

what shotgun when a dog barks. As a bonus, s/he'll serve as an

 

ambassador of goodwill with legitmate clients.

 

 

 

Of course, there are concerns with sanitation laws and the like, and

 

some people have allergies who otherwise would patronize the cafe.

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Guest Rob Carnachan

David,

 

 

 

I know US 14 used to extend from its current junction with US 41 (and

 

eastern terminus) down Lakeshore Drive with US 41, then it exited onto

 

Michigan Avenue (near The Drake) and followed Michigan to Jackson (US

 

66/34), where its eastern terminus was located. At some point in the 1960s,

 

US 14 was truncated back to its current junction with US 41 on the north

 

side. I have several maps showing this.

 

 

 

US 54 actually ran into Chicago as late as the early 1970s. I also have

 

many maps illustrating this -- I've also driven the old alignment of US 54

 

from Jackson and Michigan south along Michigan, Calumet, Vincennes, etc. to

 

Governors' Highway. I even spotted part of an old US 54 sign still in

 

existence someplace in there (in a pretty rundown neighborhood).

 

 

 

I sort of like the symmetrical aspect of US 14, 34, and 54 all

 

ending/beginning at the same intersection -- with US 66 to boot!

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Rob

 

 

 

 

 

>From: "David G. Clark" <olympia66@netzero.net>

 

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>To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Chicago walking tour (was (unknown))

 

>Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:48:47 -0000

 

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Guest David G. Clark

The Illinois Route 66 Association's 2005 Motor Tour begins in the

 

Chicago area this year. Anyone who is interested should make plans

 

to get into Chicago's Loop early on Friday, June 10th, to

 

participate in FREE walking tours of downtown 66 hosted by Windy

 

City Road Warrior, Dave Clark.

 

 

 

The tours will start at 12:15 p.m. and 2:30 p.m. and will meet in

 

front of the Chicago Board of Trade, 141 W. Jackson (eastbound 66),

 

which is located at the intersection of LaSalle Street and Jackson

 

Boulevard.

 

 

 

The 12:15 p.m. tour will cover the East Loop, running along Jackson

 

from LaSalle to Michigan Avenue, then returning along Adams Street

 

(westbound 66) back to LaSalle. Tour highlights:

 

 

 

The tallest building in the world with weight-bearing walls

 

The site of the world's first skyscraper

 

The site where Standard Time was adopted.

 

The Art Institute

 

The Santa Fe Railway Building

 

 

 

The 2:30 p.m. tour will cover the West Loop, setting out from

 

LaSalle along Jackson to Clinton Street, then will travel along

 

Adams back to LaSalle. Highlights:

 

 

 

Union Station

 

Lou Mitchell's

 

The site of the Bohemian Cafe, where patrons could dine on

 

rattlesnake and bear steaks

 

The tallest building on Route 66

 

The tallest building that has no name

 

The Jackson and Adams Street Double-Bascule Bridges

 

 

 

The number of participants in the tours will be limited—RESERVATIONS

 

ARE REQUIRED! Please contact Dave Clark directly to ensure your

 

participation:

 

 

 

E-mail: dave@windycityroadwarrior.com

 

Website: http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com

 

Phone: 312-432-1284

 

Address: 843 W. Adams Street #312

 

Chicago, IL 60607-3017

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Guest David G. Clark

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Carnachan" <robcarn@m...>

 

wrote:

 

> David,

 

>

 

> I know US 14 used to extend from its current junction with US 41

 

(and

 

> eastern terminus) down Lakeshore Drive with US 41, then it exited

 

onto

 

> Michigan Avenue (near The Drake) and followed Michigan to Jackson

 

(US

 

> 66/34), where its eastern terminus was located. At some point in

 

the 1960s,

 

> US 14 was truncated back to its current junction with US 41 on the

 

north

 

> side. I have several maps showing this.

 

 

 

Wow! I love it. Do you have a general idea of the years of those

 

maps? I have no maps from "physical" maps of the period from 1949 to

 

about 1974, and I haven't had time to go to my "scans" to see what I

 

have there.

 

 

 

> US 54 actually ran into Chicago as late as the early 1970s. I

 

also have

 

> many maps illustrating this -- I've also driven the old alignment

 

of US 54

 

> from Jackson and Michigan south along Michigan, Calumet,

 

Vincennes, etc. to

 

> Governors' Highway. I even spotted part of an old US 54 sign

 

still in

 

> existence someplace in there (in a pretty rundown neighborhood).

 

>

 

> I sort of like the symmetrical aspect of US 14, 34, and 54 all

 

> ending/beginning at the same intersection -- with US 66 to boot!

 

 

 

I like that aspect, too, very much. I appreciate the information!

 

 

 

Now, here's a trivia question, for any and all:

 

 

 

We've been talking about US 34 here, which originally ran from

 

Jackson and Michigan in Chicago out to Council Bluffs, Iowa.

 

Currently, it runs into Colorado and through the Rocky Mountain

 

National Park. I know of at least three other spots besides Jackson

 

and Michigan that have been the eastern terminus of 34. Does anyone

 

want to chime in with an answer as to the other ending points?

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

Windy City Road Warrior

 

http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com

 

dave@windycityroadwarrior.com

 

312-432-1284

 

843 W. Adams Street #312

 

Chicago, IL 60607

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Guest Rob Carnachan

David,

 

 

 

Not sure about your question re US 34, but I just remembered that there are

 

some vintage photographs hanging inside the Corner Bistro/Cafe on the

 

northwest corner of Michigan and either Jackson or Adams (can't remember

 

which) that show Michigan and Jackson and you can see the old US 34/66 and

 

US 54 signs in the photos. At least that was the case about 5 years ago

 

when I was last in there.

 

 

 

The maps I have showing US 14s eastern extension are from the late 50s.

 

 

 

Rob Carnachan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>From: "David G. Clark" <olympia66@netzero.net>

 

>Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Chicago walking tour (was (unknown))

 

>Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:39:42 -0000

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Carnachan" <robcarn@m...>

 

wrote:

 

> David,

 

>

 

> Not sure about your question re US 34, but I just remembered that

 

there are

 

> some vintage photographs hanging inside the Corner Bistro/Cafe on

 

the

 

> northwest corner of Michigan and either Jackson or Adams (can't

 

remember

 

> which) that show Michigan and Jackson and you can see the old US

 

34/66 and

 

> US 54 signs in the photos. At least that was the case about 5

 

years ago

 

> when I was last in there.

 

>

 

> The maps I have showing US 14s eastern extension are from the late

 

50s.

 

>

 

> Rob Carnachan

 

Rob:

 

 

 

I'll check out the restaurants on those corners. There's a Corner

 

Bakery franchise on Jackson, and Bennigan's on Adams. Both have

 

vintage photos on the walls of Chicago street scenes. I haven't

 

looked closely at them for some time.

 

 

 

Dave

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In a message dated 4/25/03 1:41:17 PM, olympia66@netzero.net writes:

 

 

 

<< Does anyone

 

 

 

want to chime in with an answer as to the other ending points?

 

 

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

 

 

Windy City Road Warrior >>

 

 

 

Hi Dave and everybody else from another Dave in Seattle

 

 

 

No information about specific routes from me, it's not my neck of the woods.

 

For the record I have been through your WIndy City twice, eastbound on the

 

JFK during Friday late afternoon/early evening and westbound from

 

Detroit on Amtrak. Had a spectacular view of the Merchandise Mart

 

from along the river on the way out.

 

 

 

Besides that, I do not get overly hung up on highway numerology,

 

the visual aspects of the roads are what really gets me going.

 

But I can see how people could get into that, I do too to a

 

certain extent, for example I like to tell people that the

 

Pacific Highway was billed as "the world's longest paved

 

strip" for a time, and I used to remember how many miles

 

that was. My good friend the late Jack Carpentier could

 

quote you chapter and verse when it came to numbers

 

and dates, all from memory.

 

 

 

Anyways a few general observations about highway data.

 

At an early age I appointed myself navigator on family

 

excursions and I soon came to realize that what was on

 

the gas station map did not correspond to what was on

 

the ground and was only approximate. This offended my

 

sensibilities even as a child.

 

 

 

Years later when my fascination with roads reached new

 

levels I came to further realize the limitations of standard

 

issue commercial maps. Mostly it is a limitation of scale.

 

If we had cheap microprocessors back in the old days it

 

might have been different. Nowdays it is possible to

 

carry complete editions of USGS maps on a laptop or

 

you can just got to sites like topozone.com.

 

 

 

The 15 minute series which is derived from aerial photos

 

is usually about as accurate as you would want but of

 

course it still does not answer the question of when,

 

it only tells you where.

 

 

 

Gas station maps also are hard put to tell you when,

 

for starters, most of them have no copyright date.

 

I suspect this was to forestall their obsolescence.

 

The motoring public might well be skeptical of last

 

years map, even enough to change brands perhaps.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I love my old gas station maps

 

and find them extremely evocative.

 

 

 

But when I want to get the straight skinny, the real deal,

 

the last word, here is where I go.

 

 

 

Here in WA and in OR and CA to the south the state highway

 

commisions published official reports. In WA they were

 

conincident with the biannual legislative sessions.

 

 

 

They are hardbound volumes packed with data, charts, graphs,

 

maps, photos and descriptions of activities. I am not saying

 

that they are 100% accurate but it seems to me if anybody

 

was going to get it right it would be these people. After all

 

even though they work for the government the Are engineers.

 

 

 

An example to hand,

 

 

 

STATE OF OREGON

 

 

 

Fourth Biennial Report

 

 

 

of the

 

 

 

State

 

 

 

Highway Commission

 

 

 

to the

 

 

 

Governor

 

 

 

 

 

(OR state seal)

 

 

 

1919-1920

 

 

 

 

 

this is an approximation of the cover layout

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Guest roadmaven@aol.com

Greetings folks! As we embark on this extended weekend for most of us, I just

 

want to pass on a "Thank You" to all you vets out there who served in the

 

U.S. military. This weekend, take a minute to do something to honor those who've

 

served....whether it's just a "thanks" to a member of the military or raising

 

"old glory". So to my dad who served in the Korean War in the Air Force and to

 

all you ladies & gents here on the list who have served, God Bless!

 

 

 

Now if you'll excuse me, we're walking over to the speedway for the 500. Look

 

for us on the inside of Turn 3!

 

 

 

Pat in Speedway, IN

 

http://theroadmaven.com

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Hello, Pay Phone Information? Enthusiast Provides the Answer

 

By IAN URBINA

 

 

 

Published: May 13, 2004

 

 

 

It started as an art project. Blue spiral notebook in hand, Mark

 

Thomas spent afternoons walking the streets of Manhattan,

 

compiling the numbers and locations of public pay phones. He

 

posted them on his Web site in the hope that people would call

 

them.

 

 

 

"There is real beauty in whimsical acts of contact between

 

strangers," he explained. Soon his list expanded to include

 

public phones at the top of the Eiffel Tower, in the basement of

 

the Vatican, in the middle of the Mojave Desert, and at about

 

450,000 other places around the world.

 

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/13/nyregion/13PAYP.html?th

 

 

 

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Expect the World every morning with The New York Times

 

headlines in your e-mail.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/register

 

 

 

 

 

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My preoccupation with phones may be from mom working as an

 

operator as I was a child. Welcome to my psychosis. Anywho, I

 

thought this was a real good read. . . . Chris

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WOW! Gotta go there...Tsingtao Kip

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] American Sign Museum Opening

 

 

 

 

 

> Yesterday was the grand opening of the new American Sign Museum here in

 

> Cincinnati. I attended and, even though it's not exactly "on the road",

 

> there are plenty of former road side decorations inside and I thought

 

group

 

> members might be interested. I've posted a few pictures at

 

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AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 

>

 

> There are 2 messages in this issue.

 

>

 

> Topics in this digest:

 

>

 

> 1. Re: U.S.Route 50 question

 

> From: "Dave Johnsen" <dcjcycle@earthlink.net>

 

> 2. Re: American Sign Museum Opening

 

> From: "Jennifer" <jabremer66@aol.com>

 

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> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:47:26 -0500

 

> From: "Dave Johnsen" <dcjcycle@earthlink.net>

 

> Subject: Re: U.S.Route 50 question

 

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> <rudkip@sbcglobal.net> wrote...

 

>> --50 piggybacks I-44 to Lindbergh Blvd. in St. Louis...then connects with

 

>> I-255 to cross the Misssissippi and follows that to I-64...it follows

 

>> I-64

 

>> for several miles before veering off to Lincoln, IL...real cute little

 

>> downtown there....

 

>> --outside of Lincoln you can turn right off of 50 and take old 50 through

 

>> Summerfield and Trenton...Trenton is a cool little town with lots of cool

 

>> signs, a great bowling alley and the Trenton House Restaurant, which may

 

>> have the best onion rings you will ever find...

 

>

 

> Um, you meant LEBANON instead of Lincoln, right? Maybe you've been driving

 

> Route 66 too much!

 

>

 

> There are a few other sections of old 50 further east, some of which are

 

> signed as IL 250 (Olney and Lawrenceville). Olney is known for its white

 

> (albino) squirrels.

 

>

 

> --Dave Johnsen

 

> Chicago, IL

 

 

 

There's a great burger joint on US 50 in Sedalia, MO called Eddie's

 

Drive-In. Their steakburgers put Steak N Shake to shame. It's right in the

 

middle of town, on the south side of the highway.

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Guest Bob Reynolds

As promised, I have uploaded four 1990 photos of the Kinzua

 

Bridge to the BabyBoomerBob directory. These include one with the

 

tour train in the middle, and one of the supports from underneath.

 

This is what it looked like before it was destroyed by last summer's

 

tornado.

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Thanks for the tips on the Caltrans library and other resources. Based on my

 

field trips, examination of old maps, and TerraServer, there were two main

 

alignments, one constructed in 1914 and a later one in the early '20s that

 

became the original route 66. I'm also working on identifying a third pre-NOTH

 

alignment of the route through the area. Neither of these were very close to

 

the current alignment of Route 66 except in the Victorville area, and the

 

biggest surprise I've found is that NOTH did NOT travel that close to the

 

railroad or to the current alignment of route 66. Both alignments blazed their

 

own path through the desert...and are still out there waiting to be explored.

 

 

 

I know about the road you're talking about near south of the road to Goffs,

 

which does indeed climb through the mountains to Klinefelter, and from what I've

 

been able to tell so far it was not part of the National Old Trails Highway,

 

although it seems to be have been part of the pre-NOTH route before it was

 

rebuilt in 1914; but I'm awaiting the arrival of a 1917 map that may answer that

 

question for sure. That road seems to be connected with the construction of

 

another road across the desert that runs diagonally across the desert in an

 

northeast-southwesterly way for many miles and whose origins are similarly

 

mysterious. It seems like a gas line road but apparently isn't, nor does it

 

appear to have been part of NOTH except for one small segment near Danby.

 

 

 

Finding out the history of that road is one of the things I'm still looking into

 

so any information would be helpful. You can find pavement from the NOTH

 

alignment dating from the 1920s on either side of the road east of Goffs and it

 

diverges from the road in a few places....

 

 

 

I'll definitely follow up on these links and check your page. Thanks!

 

 

 

<<The NOTR probably followed pretty close to the railway. As I recall, it

 

probably

 

went closer

 

to the Ibis siding than 66 did. I also found a dirt road parallel to 66 on the

 

way to Goffs. It

 

was on the south side of the paved road and went for miles parallel to the paved

 

 

 

alignment. There were rail ties across the road at intervals, maybe to prevent

 

washouts

 

during flash flooding. It sure made rough going. There's a picture of this road

 

in the

 

California section of my photos page on my site:

 

http://ushighway66.com/ (look at photo CA04homer04)

 

 

 

I didn't follow this road back east from Homer, but it may have gone more

 

directly towards

 

Klinefelter.

 

 

 

However, I'd generally guess that the 1926 alignment of 66 (and the old utility

 

poles)

 

stayed pretty close to the NOTR. This path was not just the NOTR, but also the

 

National

 

Park to Park Highway, the New Santa Fe Trail and perhaps some other named trails

 

to LA.

 

In Barstow the NOTR picked up some other roads such as the Pikes Peak Ocean to

 

Ocean

 

and the Arrowhead Trail. The best places to look for clues would be Caltran's

 

library in the

 

LA/San Bernardino area, the main libraries and historical societies, the state

 

archives in

 

Sacramento, and I'd also try writing to the experts on the Mojave area at the

 

Mojave Desert

 

Heritage and Cultural Association:

 

http://www.mdhca.org/

 

 

 

They are based in Goffs and may be able to tell you about the NOTR in the

 

Mojave.

 

 

 

 

 

Parsa

 

 

 

>>

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Guest Denny Gibson

Welcome indeed!! That's remarkable growth & great news. Maybe everyone is

 

home from their springtime road trips and joining up before those big

 

summertime drives.

 

 

 

Welcome to all,

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.DennyGibson.com

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

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> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:37 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Welcome new members!!

 

>

 

>

 

> I have to say big welcome to our 77 new members this week...that is,

 

> without question, a record. My inbox was unexpectedly flooded with new

 

> member requests this morning!

 

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> Don't be shy, step right up and share some road stories, ask questions

 

> about road travel and have fun!

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Dave,

 

 

 

At this web site:

 

 

 

http://www.us-highways.com/

 

 

 

you will find a lot of pages similar to the Colorado

 

one. The U S Highways site contains a wealth of info

 

on U S Highways - in many cases clicking on a state

 

will bring up a page similar to Colorado's.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- DAVID L WILLMAN <dwillman66@comcast.net> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> Hello, Group...

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Found this interesting website,

 

> http://www.mesalek.com/colo/history.html

 

> <mailto:dwillman66@attbi.com>

 

>

 

> That this gentleman put together about Colorado

 

> Roads and highways..

 

>

 

> I am finding it interesting..was thinking of putting

 

> something together

 

>

 

> Like this also..but its already be done...any other

 

> states anyone knows

 

>

 

> of that are like this website? Sorry, not too

 

> exciting, but for me it

 

> is...

 

>

 

> I, too, am one of those trivia old highway

 

> buffs..just wanted to share

 

>

 

> And see if anyone else has seen anything like this

 

> for other states...

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thank you, take care

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dave "66Willy" Willman

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> removed]

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Here is a site which may be of interest to some of you roadies. Do your

 

scrooling down to the "Other Links" site..

 

 

 

Click here: California Highways (www.cahighways.org): Other Links

 

 

 

 

 

Have fun

 

 

 

Don

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

A new member of our Friends group was wondering if I had any pictures of Watson

 

Road in St. Louis from Route 66 days...does anybody out there have any? I have

 

seen a lot of great postcards, but not too many pictures...Tsingtao, Kip

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Guest Jennifer

Hi Denny! The light bulb went off last night and I thought we might

 

be a featured group at Yahoo and we are an "editor's pick" for "Summer

 

Road Trips!". Too cool. The list keeps growing as more requests come

 

in!

 

 

 

Hope everyone dives right in and starts the road warrior stories!

 

 

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I ditto this, and thanks for all the cool " factoids" that you put on the

 

website! Learn a lot...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:16 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Horatio's Drive

 

 

 

 

 

> Hi Kevin,

 

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> Thanks for the heads up. Will mark my calender in hopes that I can

 

> view the PBS program. Odd, I was under the impression that in 1903,

 

> the only roads that were improved were that of the graded gravel type

 

> and that the use of portand concrete as a paved roadway surface

 

> didn't come about until around 1913.

 

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> the landrunner

 

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> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Potter <oldroad@s...>

 

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> > Ken Burns who made PBS documentaries on Maseball & the

 

> > Civil War has another documentary based on the first

 

> > cross country drive in 1903. Documentry to air on PBS

 

> > stations around October 6, narrated by Tom Hanks.

 

> >

 

> > The drive was based on a $50 wager that a car could

 

> > travel cross country in 90 days. Keep in mind, there

 

> > was on 150 miles of paved road in 1903. Most felt the

 

> > car was a passing fad & it was just a rich man's toy.

 

> >

 

> > A book has been published by Burns & is now available.

 

> > Front of the book features 'Buddy' a dog (wearing

 

> > goggles) that Horatio bought in Idaho on his

 

> > crosscountry trip.

 

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> > Burns was interviewed on Los Angeles radio station

 

> > KLOS. I thought list members would like info on this

 

> > book & documentary.

 

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> > I've tried to remember the basics of the interview

 

> > mentioned above.

 

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Guest Jennifer

Hi all! Pat and I are interested in taking a weekend trip, just

 

Saturday and Sunday. I'd like to head south, take all two lane roads

 

(though, I'm not averse to taking the Evil-I through Indiana, then two

 

lane after). We'd probably leave at 7:00 AM, and stop around 6:00 PM.

 

 

 

Assuming our fairly lesirely pace, stopping often to take photos, I

 

guess we'd average 35 - 40 MPH, so we could travel between 385 and 440

 

miles from Indianapolis. I'd like suggestions from the group as to a

 

nice scenic route we can take. Any additional suggestions, such as

 

diners, motels and things to do / see are welcomed as well.

 

 

 

I have Microsoft Streets and Trips, and a neat feature is to set

 

preferred roads, you can set Interstates to low preference and other

 

highways to high preference, and it will keep you off the interstate.

 

 

 

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

 

 

Jennifer

 

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Guest Larry Kinsey

Jennifer,

 

 

 

I sometimes get the old Rand McNally out and take a look. They have areas

 

that they call scenic routes and have followed some of these in

 

Kansas. You would be surprised the things you can find on those trips.

 

 

 

Larry

 

 

 

 

 

At 01:26 PM 7/1/2005 +0000, you wrote:

 

>Hi all! Pat and I are interested in taking a weekend trip, just

 

>Saturday and Sunday. I'd like to head south, take all two lane roads

 

>(though, I'm not averse to taking the Evil-I through Indiana, then two

 

>lane after). We'd probably leave at 7:00 AM, and stop around 6:00 PM.

 

>

 

>Assuming our fairly lesirely pace, stopping often to take photos, I

 

>guess we'd average 35 - 40 MPH, so we could travel between 385 and 440

 

>miles from Indianapolis. I'd like suggestions from the group as to a

 

>nice scenic route we can take. Any additional suggestions, such as

 

>diners, motels and things to do / see are welcomed as well.

 

>

 

>I have Microsoft Streets and Trips, and a neat feature is to set

 

>preferred roads, you can set Interstates to low preference and other

 

>highways to high preference, and it will keep you off the interstate.

 

>

 

>Thanks for any suggestions!

 

>

 

>Jennifer

 

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