Keep the Show on the Road! Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Every so often I “discover” a great new website I want to let others know about. This one will prove to be very useful for anyone interested in the Pacific Highway or US99 in Washington: http://www.ilwu19.com/pacific_hwy/index.htm I have contacted the author and invited him to share his expertise with us. Speaking of the Pacific Highway, I “discovered” some original concrete pavement yesterday. Sit Properly (Eric) asked me for examples I knew about of concrete pavement in Western Washington. I suggested a couple I knew about, then decided to see if some places I thought might have old concrete surfaces, did in fact. The photos below show what is almost certainly a segment of original and very rare concrete pavement on an abandoned section of the old and famous highway. It is pre 1923, based on the lack of a center joint. Given when concrete was first used on highways (abt 1913), and specifically on the Pacific Highway (1916, or perhaps as early as 1914), concrete laid on the Pacific before 1923 was very probably not a replacement hard surface pavement, and thus was the original. I hoped to find a date stamp, as is the case on the 1919 concrete near Reardon, Washington, but I didn't. Of course that stamp was impressed at the end of the section laid each day, so I may have been in the middle of a day's section, and frankly, I didn't check every cross joint anyway For Google Earth fans, go to coordinates 46.461177°, -122.838643° (Laussier Road, north of Toledo, Washington). It will be tough, perhaps impossible, to find another such section in Washington. I did spot (not claiming discovery) an original 1915 concrete bridge in California a few years ago, but we all know that Washington trumps California!! See it here: http://americanroadmagazine.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1163&hl=%2Bpacific+%2Bbridge Dave Keep the Show on the Road! Looking east toward “modern” old US99 Below.....Looking west toward road closure barrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ballard Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I went back through my photos from my 2009 bicycle tour and I did see that section of 99 pictured. I found a few stretches like that in the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ballard Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I added a link to the Pacific Highway site on my US 99 tour. Very well put together site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Show on the Road! Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Mike, Thanks for the come-back! Rereading your 2009 journal (nothing like a bike trip to view an old road!!), I note you mention and include a photo of another single slab concrete segment north of Burlington, Washington, of which I was not aware. I did not however find mention of other early examples (pre mid 1920's) in Washington. You note “a few stretches like that in the area,” so I'm hoping from your memory or photographs you might identify others. If you identify where some of those other sections of old Pacific Highway original concrete in the area are, I would really enjoy taking a look at them. And you didn't note for readers your outstanding tour site which I have cited below: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/index.html?o=1&doc_id=5240&v=9b Thanks again for the great information! Dave Keep the Show on the Road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sit properly Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Thanks Mike and Dave! The Old 99 in Washington site is amazing and helpful and basically a labyrinth that could wrap me up for days upon days. I agree with Dave, please share the other sections. I live in Everett, and so getting to the ones near Burlington is actually pretty easy. I've driven most of the old alignments between here and Bellingham, so there's a chance I know the roads and have just missed it - the cement here is darker than back east. Why is that? -Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Show on the Road! Posted February 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Eric, In a word, Mold....... I really don't know, but judging by everything else, including my driveway and the outside concrete steps to the basement, I would guess some organic surface growth....but like I said, I really don't know. Dave Keep the Show on the Road! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyG Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 The ilwu19 website was unknown to me and definitely has some good information. I had seen Mike's site before but I really enjoyed revisiting (especially the Columbia River & Mount Hood bits). It doesn't hurt us at all to occasionally be reminded of the cool roads and scenery in the northwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilene Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Terrific find Dave! Very exciting! Makes me long for improved weather here so I can go exploring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ballard Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Mike, Thanks for the come-back! Rereading your 2009 journal (nothing like a bike trip to view an old road!!), I note you mention and include a photo of another single slab concrete segment north of Burlington, Washington, of which I was not aware. I did not however find mention of other early examples (pre mid 1920's) in Washington. You note “a few stretches like that in the area,” so I'm hoping from your memory or photographs you might identify others. If you identify where some of those other sections of old Pacific Highway original concrete in the area are, I would really enjoy taking a look at them. And you didn't note for readers your outstanding tour site which I have cited below: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/index.html?o=1&doc_id=5240&v=9b Thanks again for the great information! Dave Keep the Show on the Road! Thank you for the plug for my bike tour. I did post photos of many things US 99 on it (and Columbia River Highway). The other section of single-slab I found was at Tucker Rd. There was also some concrete where Jackson Hwy split from 505 near Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Show on the Road! Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Mike, I may go down to the Toledo area today and include a look at the “Tucker Road” segment you identified. For others who may be interested, the coordinates are: 46.475895, -122.817637. Looking at Google Earth, there is no doubt that is an old section of concrete, and it clearly is connected to modern US99. The curve doesn't seem to fit somehow in my mind's eye. Of course we don't know the exact roadbed of the old highway at either end of the curve. If that was available, the curve would probably "fit" better. Unfortunately the 1913-14 Chehalis quad doesn't extend that far south. I may stop at the Lewis County Museum to see if they have a period map. I was aware of the other concrete you mention outside Toledo. That one is pretty small. But the one near Tucker is nice. Thanks!! Dave Keep the Show on the Road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilene Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Ooh, ouch, looking at the Google Maps satellite view of Tucker Road, it looks like someone was in there with a jackhammer tearing out the concrete. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Show on the Road! Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Jim, It has some unusual characteristics. First, to my way of thinking, it doesn't look necessary. The road could have gone straight ahead. Maybe the old old road weaved back and forth, maybe around trees, and the old road followed and has since been so obliterated as to make the curve appear to be an aneurism. It connects more like an extension of Tucker Road than the Pacific Highway, but that makes no sense. Then I found a detailed 1925 Metsker map at the Lewis County Museum,, and it isn't on the map! Could be that he ignored a a section of old road? But that was not his practice, and besides, the road was not abandoned, only bypassed. It shows on modern maps. Then when I got to the road, the north half is in beautiful condition, practically free of cracks. But as you note, the southern section almost appears to have been bombed, and has prominent lengthwise cracks. Maybe the ground on the southern portion is more subject to movement, thus the cracks. I even considered that the roads had been laid different years, but they show similar surface wear, and the aggregate in both is very similar. And perhaps the grass was killed on the northern section and didn't enlarge cracks. I'm willing to let these “mysteries” go unresolved. The first picture below is the northern and the second is the southern section. Dave Keep the Show on the Road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilene Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 It looks like the northern section got used and the southern section not so much. But that's just speculation. At any rate, it's a great find, and your photos are mouthwatering. -Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyG Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 There is certainly an amazing amount of difference between the two sections but they are both pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) This section of the old highway is one of the oldest roads in the state of Washington. This road was built about 1839 after the Puget Sound Agricultural Company (PSAC) began to farm on the Cowlitz Prairie. The PSAC was a subsidiary of the Hudson's Bay Company. This road was originally about a mile long an ran between Simon Plamondon's farm, the Cowlitz Mission and the PSAC farm, which was known as the Cowlitz Farms. Plamondon was a retired HBC employee who arrived at Washougal 1816 and started work for the HBC. He and retired in 1837. John McLoughlin asked him if he would settle on the Cowlitz Prairie as the British were trying to establish settlements north of the Columbia so they could make the river the international boundary. Plamondon agreed and that was the beginning of the Cowlitz Settlement. The French-Canadian families living in the Willamette valley, petitioned in 1834 for Catholic priests. The priests were approved to come to Oregon and start a mission, but had to depend on the HBC to get them there. They agreed to transport them on the condition they build the church north of the Columbia at the Cowlitz settlement, to bolster the British presence north of the river. The church agreed to the request and Fathers Blanchet and Demers opened the Cowlitz Mission in 1839. This road was used to get from the settlement to the church. This section of road became the Pacific Highway in 1915 and the attached old photo was taken about a mile north of the Plamondon road. I attached a drawing of my best attempt at a duplication of the 1853 BLM map on a Google map. Happy trails Curt Edited July 1, 2020 by Road Warrior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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