Guest Shellee Graham Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 >> Two Lane Links page. Hello Ken (aka Landrunner), Thanks for offering to add some links to your TWO-LANE LINKS page on your website. That would be *SWELL* :-) What I've been working on lately is http://www.coralcourt.com You know the site that tells about the dear-departed CORAL COURT MOTEL (1941-1995), formerly of St. Louis, Missouri. I worked on it last week and plan to work on it more very soon. WHY? I am taking Web Design 3 class at school. This is the last class they offer and I hope to become proficient (in Dreamweaver and Flash). IF you've NEVER been to cafepress.com, YOU SHOULD. My store is: http://www.cafepress.com/coralcourt (There's some really interesting stuff at cafepress, and I am just one of many. My store has OVER 40 ITEMS, exclusively sold at cafepress). +++++++++++++ Thankya. Shellee G. WHO just got back from a TRIP on US 71 with our pal (and my main squeeze) Mr. Jim Ross. He was a true pathfinder as we traversed the backroads in Missouri, Arkansas and Oklahoma. For Tsingtao Kip W : I took some photos for you near Noel, Missouri where the cliff overhangs the road. We LOVED the trip despite the clouds and occasional rain. Jerry's article in the latest issue of AMERICAN ROAD served as our map and guide. (McJerry: I LOVED THE VISTA COURTS, but you knew that I would!) CARTHAGE, MO: Boots Motel: We saw the sign *Boots Apartments* weekly rentals. There is a For Sale sign out front and I have that information. I'd like to write the real owner a letter how that cute little motor court could be a little GOLD MINE for him and the community of Carthage. As Jim and I toured the Victorian houses in town, I said if these houses have been preserved and saved, shouldn't the Boots be saved? It seems we must SAVE IT from its owner first. These places must be purchased by a preservation-minded buyer! (By the way, the self-guided tour of the Victorian homes was VERY COOL.) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Shellee Graham St. Louis, MO http://www.coralcourt.com http://www.cafepress.com/coralcourt http://www.smithkramer.com/exhibitions.php?id=16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 After getting my glasses fixed in the Tulsa suburb of Sand Springs, I decided to head down Highway 97 to Sapulpa, then taking 66 to Depew for lunch. As many of you may know, Oklahoma 66 skirts around the outside of Depew, a small town nestled at the top of a hill. What I didn't know until a few months ago was that a 1920s or '30s alignment of Route 66 once went straight through downtown Depew. If you haven't driven through downtown Depew, do it. It looks like something from a movie set: old stone and brick buildings that date from near the turn of the century. The ironic thing about 66 bypassing Depew is that it froze it in time. With little business there except from locals, downtown Depew had little reason for redevelopment. You can get into downtown by following the green sign that points to Depew and head for the small water tower that says "Home of the Hornets." The concrete pavement in downtown resembles other old, old stretches of 66 that I've driven. The anchor of the downtown area is Spangler's grocery. It has an old-fashioned "Old West" style sign affixed above its entrance. To survive, the grocery has expanded its offerings to automotive parts, plumbing supplies and movie rentals. The original open-air meat coolers are still there, but they've been shut down. Instead, meat and other frozen items are kept in top-loading freezers -- the type where you have to open the lid to see what's in there. It was a concession to save money on electricity, I'm sure. But the most prosperous business in Depew is Coach's Corner Cafe, across the street. I went there about 11:30 a.m., sat at a counter chair and ordered an iced tea. It came sweetened without asking (you're in the South now, boy). The buffet featured Salisbury steak, mashed potatoes, milk gravy, chicken and noodles, green beans, sweet potatoes with melted marshmallows, creamed peas and salad. Not a bad spread for $4.95. Warm bread was gratis. Eight pies were listed on a chalkboard, including blackberry cobbler and meringue pies that looked to be eight inches high. I glanced at the breakfast menu; not one item cost more than $3.95. No wonder this place was popular. As I ate my meal, I watched as busy waitresses chatted with a mix of farmers, senior citizens, locals on their lunch breaks and high-school girls. Memorabilia from Depew's high school sports teams hangs on the walls. As I paid the bill, I saw one strapping-looking fellow beg off eating a whole slice of the meringue-covered pie, begging his partner at the table to help him. I got the sense of what Michael Wallis must have felt when he used to patronize the late, lamented Pop Hicks in Clinton, Okla. Cafes that were not only a place to eat, but a social center for its small-town residents, are still alive along Route 66. Depew is one of those places where you can experience this. As I left Coach's, a collie mix walked up to me with a wagging tail and eager face. Judging by his plump body, he'd become an expert in begging for tidbits from the customers' doggie bags. I petted him and told him to find another sucker who actually had food. The old gas station, complete with its original canopy, in downtown Depew is no longer an operating tire shop, as I once surmised. A lady at city hall said it had been closed for at least 10 years. But peering through the windows, there was enough inventory left over and neatness in the place that you'd expect a man wearing a grease-stained workshirt to walk from the back shop and hurriedly unlock the front door for a customer. It even had its hours of operation still posted. Even closed, the gas station has an architectural grace (dating from the 1930s, I suspect). It certainly aged better than another closed, more-modern-looking gas station across the road. A great-looking bank building with the date "1910" above its corner front houses a SpiritBank. (The bank reputedly was robbed by Pretty Boy Floyd decades ago.) Lady Bug's, a gift shop gearing up for Valentine's Day, is a few doors down from Coach's. The only other businesses I saw that were operating was the nondescript post office, city hall, Depew Senior Citizens center, an oil pipeline company, and Verna's Cutting Place, a hair salon. Buddy's Bar, housed in another nice brick building with the date "1911" above it, was closed, but it appeared well-kept enough with its stools and pool tables that I figured it would open later that evening. In the middle of downtown is a memorial for the town's war veterans. The full list was inscribed on two good-sized blocks of marble, and I counted 10 who were killed in action. Two marble benches sat nearby, one inscribed "All Gave Some" and the other "Some Gave All." I saw no dates for the veterans' time of service, but I figured it was compiled from the rolls of both world wars, Korea and probably Vietnam. It was sobering to think about whether any names from Iraq would have to be added there. A woman from California is rumored to be buying up as many downtown buildings as possible to eventually establish Depew an artists' colony. I'm sure a few of the locals are resistant to that effort, not wanting "outsiders" to mess with their town. But, frankly, I'm glad she is, because Depew needs the help. The stately Coppedge building used to house a drugstore and a doctor's office. Now both are gone, as is the building's roof. The only hint of the building's glory days is the "Coppedge" name on the side of the building and the tile patterns near what used to be the front door. The lady at city hall told me that next to the Coppedge was a movie theatre -- now long gone with nothing but a vacant lot. I saw at least three other former businesses downtown in which the roofs are gone. One business had "Antiques" painted in the window, but it's closed. There were at least three vacant lots. The city hall lady says the decline hasn't happened all at once -- it's just occurred slowly over the decades. Maybe the artists' colony will provide a revival for downtown Depew. Maybe the obvious success of Coach's will spark something else, like Blueberry Hill did for University City's Loop near St. Louis. But whatever you do, folks, go see Depew while you can. It's a picture of small-town America that seems to be disappearing, and time is a stern taskmaster. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 This message and a slightly earlier one from Dave Gardner prompted me to take a look at the group's photo section and I found some really good stuff there. It looks like a number of folks have posted pictures during the last six months or so and many are worth checking out. Besides Cristy & Dave, Pam, Jack, Rita, and several others have posted interesting collections of photos. On one hand, I'd suggest that any group member with a little time and even a shred of curiosity take a look at the photos there. At the same time, I'll encourage anyone posting photos to label them so that each one can be viewed and identified individually. Recognize the difference between showing your vacation photos to Uncle Joe while he's sitting beside you on the couch and mailing them off to him in an envelope. Those notes on the back were pretty useful, eh? Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Cristy [mailto:clfritz@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:01 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] New Member Photo Album > > > Greetings... > > I am a new member to the group. My passion is exploring historic roads > and trails. My photos and experiences are vast but I still have yet to > scratch the surface of what there is to discover in this great land. > My love started with the National Trail/Road, mainly because I grew up > less than a half a block away from it and was lucky to live in a part > of Ohio where the original milestones were generally cared for and > protected. I have since traveled the entire road from Cumberland to > Vandalia and photographed as much as I could to commemorate that piece > of history. > > I posted a photo album that is not yet complete. I am on a mission > from God to visit all of the Madonnas of the Trail. The DAR and the > National Old Trails Association placed 12 statues along the route of > the National Old Trails Highway in the 1920's. They stretch across the > country from Maryland to California. I've been to nine of them, > traveling east to west. I still need Arizona, New Mexico, and Calif. > > I'm looking forward to participating in this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I submitted Frank Hulett's name to the magazine for the list you mention. While taking my daily walk through the subdivision a couple of years (or so) ago on "trash pickup day," I spotted a box of vinyl 33 1/3 LP's that had been set by the curb for pickup. Naturally, I hurried home to get a car and then raced back for the albums. Some gems were in the box, including "Frank Hulett at Jackson Hole." Frank had even autographed the album's jacket. So who's Frank Hulett? Don't know - never heard of him but the first song on side two is "Route 66." The album is OLD but I can't locate a date anywhere. It was produced by Lee Mace's Ozark Opry in Osage Beach, MO and pressed by Nashville Record Production....Bliss --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Michalek" <big_ugly_mich@...> wrote: > > A random copy of Route 66 magazine lists 97 versions of "Get Your > Kicks on Route 66", but doesn't tell us how to get any of them. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Wow, thanks for waking up a faded memory. That is an album that I really like but I only have it on vinyl so I haven't listened to it since my turntable broke many years back. So I just ordered up a CD. Also ordered up Traffic's Gold since it caught my eye and the memory of burning up a copy of When the Eagle Flies was just a couple of brain cells away from memories of Joni's Coyote. Ain't sofa-shopping great? It's how I picked up your Highway 61 Revisited a couple of weeks ago. It's going to be awhile before I get through it, though. I do much of my reading during meals and the book is kinda large to balance on a crowded Waffle House counter. But I'll make it eventually. I did get a start and so far it's not half bad. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: [mailto:tjsteil@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:29 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 966 > > > > In a message dated 2/18/2006 9:38:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com writes: > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:25:14 -0000 > From: "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Road Trip Songs - what do you listen to? > > > Hey > > Interesting bunch of tunes, some givens, some borderline, all worthwhile. > > I almost never post to these groups anymore, however, how has everyone > missed one of my favorite records, a concept album completely > written on a road > trip, and all about road trips in general.??? > > Hejira, by Joni Mitchell. I mean, there is a picture of a > two-lane highway > superimposed on her body on the cover. > > some track by track lyrical highlights...... > > 1. Coyote - "You just picked up a hitcher, a prisoner of the > white lines of > the freeway" > > 2. Amelia - "I was driving across the burning desert, when I > spotted six jet > planes, leaving six white vapor trails across the bleak terrain." > > 3. Furry Sings the Blues - " Old Beale Street is coming down, > Sweeties Snack > shop boarded up now, and Eggles the tailor, and the shine boys > gone, faded > out with ragtime blues." > > 4. A Strange Boy - "We got high on travel, and we got drunk on > alcohol, and > on love , the strongest poison and medicine of them all." > > 5. Hejira - "I'm traveling in some vehicle, I'm sitting in some cafe, a > defector from the petty wars." > > 6. Song for Sharon - "Sharon, I left my man at a North Dakota > junction, and > I came out to the Big Apple here, to face the dream's malfunction." > > 7. Black Crow - "There's a black crow, dark and ragged, flying tree to > tree, He's black as the highway that's leading me." > > 8. Blue Motel Room - "I've got road maps from two dozen states, I've got > coast to coast just to contemplate." > > 9. Refuge of the Roads - "In a highway service station, over the > month of > June, Was a photograph of the earth, Taken coming back from the > moon, and you > couldn't see a city, on that marbled bowling ball, or a forest or > a highway, > or me here least of all, you couldn't see these coldwater > restrooms, or this > baggage overload, Westbound and rolling, taking refuge in the roads." > > Obviously I am way way biased here, it has always been one of my > favorite > records, and I have never been on the road without it, For the > sheer poetry, for > a very young Jaco Pastorious in his prime on bass, for the > weirdo guitar > tunings. > > It's a stunning piece that needs to be heard from beginning to end. > Hopefully on a cloudy rainy day on a lost backroad with the very > recent benefit of > something that's Latin name ends in indica. > > peace, and, uh, you know, whatever that damned Japanese thing Kip always > signs off with. > > ts > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Yo RoadDog, I volunteer every year and read at one of our local schools. My oldest son is a teacher/football coach and his wife is a principle at one of our middle schools. My favorite is Robert Service to middle and high school. Grade school still get 'Cat in the Hat'. I enjoy doing this and feel that it is one of my best days of the year. As a speaker it helps me to understand how my craft opens up minds in children. More then worth the time and effort. Everyone should look into this by calling a local school. Thanks for sharing this with us RoadDog. James M Conkle Preservationist-Speaker-Marketer-Spokesperson-Public Relations-Event Planner Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation of Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 868 3320 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 8614 fax jimconkle@verizon.net www.cart66pf.org -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of roaddog_rt66 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:47 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Read Across America Every year, the National Education Association sponsors a Read Across America Day. This year's is March 2. The ability to read is one of the most basic things in a child's educational life. I am a teacher myself. I thought it was just people getting dressed up like the Cat in the Hat or having special guest readers come into your rooms. Until now, that is. John Piechocinski, the head custodian at Timber Ridge Middle School in Plainfield, Illinois, last year had the children trace the Lewis and Clark Expedition, a very timely thing these days. They moved Lewis and Clark along a giant map in a hallway. Every page read, was another mile. This would lend itself very nicely to our old roads. If you know an educator you should contact them and suggest your favorite road. I plan on doing Route 66 this year, if I can get the mileages between cities. For more information, go to: www.nea.org/readacross Keep on Reading Down that Two Lane Highway, --RoadDog Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael L. Ward Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Denny, I have a number of those old ALA Green Books as well as some of the older Automobile Blue Books and old road maps and road atlases. As soon as I get a chance, I'll see if I can find any more detailed information on the NOTR through that part of the country. Mike --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@...> wrote: > > Hi Denny, > > I have a 1933 ALA Automotive Green book that shows a general route from Washington, DC, thru Bethesda to Rockville - route number shown is 240. > > From the looks of a current map that route number is now MD 355 - or it's buried under I-270. > > In the trip section the directions are as follows: > > Washington DC to Harrisburg via Frederick and Gettysburg: > 0.0 - Washington DC, US HWY 250 > At capitol. First St. and Penn Ave - West on Penn Ave > 1.1 - Treasury Building. Str. on Treasury Place > 1.2 - R - Passing White House > 1.4 - L - on Pennsylvania Ave. > 1.6 - R - on 175y St. N. W. > 1.9 - Bear L on Connecticut Ave > 2.4 - Du Pont Circl. R around Circle with Conn. Ave. > 3.0 - Keep L across viaduct > 4.1 - Zoological Park > 6.8 - Chevy Chase, MD - straight ahead > 6.9 - Str. ahead keeping R around circle > 7.6 - L on Bradley Lane > 8.4 - R on Wisconsin Ave. > 8.9 - Bethesda. Str. ahead > 9.0 - Keep R on Rockville Pike > 13.1 - Harper Country Club > 16.6 - Str. on E. Montgomery Street > 16.9 - Rockville > At 45.7 - to go to Harrisburg go straight on No. Market Street. L for Hagerstown U.S. Hwy 40 > > Have fun. > > Hudsonly, > Alex B > > > > Denny Gibson denny@... wrote: This isn't anything critical so do limit your efforts but if you do come > across them, I'd appreciate it. I've just started looking into this (and > it's so far been an armchair internet search) but I'm kind of surprised at > the lack of specific information I've found on the NOTR. > > --Denny > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Russell S. Rein [mailto:Ypsi-slim@...] > > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:35 PM > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] NOTR question > > > > > > I have some Southern California Automobile Club strip map cards of the > > NOTR, plus there was a > > booklet put out of these too. If I can find them in my mess I can scan > > them for you. > > > > ypsi-slim > > > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:31:00 -0500 "Denny Gibson" denny@... > > writes: > > Russell, I sure don't want to appear ungrateful but that's not quite what > > I > > was trying to ask. I know I sometimes muddle things so that the real > > question isn't obvious. What I'm looking for is a map of the NOTR through > > that section; not the location of the statue. The scale of maps that I've > > found show a dot at Baltimore, a dot at D.C., and a dot at Frederick with > > more or less straight lines between them. There must be more detailed > > NOTR > > maps somewhere. > > > > BTW, in December of 2004 that Madonna was actually moved from her normal > > home near the Bethesda post office because of a developing sinkhole. I > > recall reading something about her return in the last month or so but a > > quick scan turned up nothing just now. > > > > Frank's site has absolutely tons of information on US-40 and its > > predecessors. Under Named Highways, he lists the NOTR but the link given > > ( > > http://www.route40.net/history/not.shtml ) is dead. I dropped him a note > > about it earlier today. > > > > Thanks for the response, > > Denny > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Russell S. Rein [mailto:Ypsi-slim@...] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:41 PM > > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] NOTR question > > > > > > > > > Denny, > > > > > > From Frank Brusca's Route40 site: > > > http://www.route40.net/history/madonnas/md.shtml > > > There is also a current map link. > > > > > > The monument is located on Rockville Pike (MD Route 355) in Bethesda, > > > Maryland, just outside of Washington, D.C. This is one of the few > > > monsuments found in a built-up urban enviornment. Access to the > > monument > > > is ideal; parking can be found along the street or in the neighboring > > > Post Office parking lot. > > > > > > This monument was dedicated on 19 April 1929. The keynote speaker was > > > then Judge Harry S Truman, President of the National Old Trails > > > Association. Vice President Charles Curtis was in attendance. > > > The inscriptions read: > > > (North Face) > > > THIS, THE FIRST MILITARY ROAD > > > IN AMERICA > > > BEGINNING AT ROCK CREEK AND > > > POTOMAC RIVER, > > > GEORGETOWN, MARYLAND > > > LEADING OUR PIONEERS > > > ACROSS THIS CONTINENT > > > TO THE PACIFIC. > > > The inscription continues: > > > "TO THE HONOR AND GLORY OF THE > > > GREAT MOTHERHOOD OF THE PAST, > > > I STAND... A SACRED SHRINE. > > > MAY ALL WHO PASS WITHIN THE > > > SHADOW OF MY FORM, PAUSE > > > AWHILE, AND UNDERSTAND THE FAITH > > > THE IDEALS, AND THE REAL INNER > > > BEAUTY OF SOUL OF THOSE MOTHERS > > > OF OLD, AS THEY PASSED DOWN THE > > > GREAT HOMING TRAIL OF THE NATION." > > > - Arline Nichols Moss > > > (South Face) > > > OVER THIS HIGHWAY > > > MARCHED THE ARMY OF > > > MAJOR GENERAL > > > EDWARD BRADDOCK > > > APRIL 14-1755 > > > ON ITS WAY TO FORT DUQUESNE. > > > > > > ypsi-slim > > > > > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:01:06 -0500 "Denny Gibson" > > denny@... > > > writes: > > > I'm hoping someone here can point me to a source for information on the > > > eastern end of the National Old Trails Road. > > > > > > I've long wondered just how Maryland's Madonna of the Trail ended up in > > > Bethesda. I figured that when I found a reasonably detailed map of the > > > NOTR > > > it would become clear but I've yet to find such a map. In fact, I found > > a > > > statement that Bethesda "was connected to the National Old Trails Road > > by > > > a > > > spur" which doesn't help at all with the Madonna question. I've found > > > high > > > level maps (such as http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/trail10.htm > > ) > > > but nothing with enough detail to show it hitting or missing Bethesda > > or > > > any > > > other place between D.C. and Frederick. How it connected D.C. and > > > Baltimore > > > is also a mystery to me. Any clues appreciated. > > > > > > Denny Gibson > > > Cincinnati, OH > > > www.DennyGibson.com > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@... POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! 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Guest timsteil Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 LETTER FROM VICTORVILLE Lore drives lure of this road Route 66 remains a rite of passage for the adventurous. The `mother road' delivers a mother lode of vintage kicks and oddities, writes the Tribune's Michael Martinez Michael Martinez, a national correspondent in the Tribune's West Coast bureau Published February 19, 2006 VICTORVILLE, Calif. -- From Chicago to Los Angeles, Americans know Route 66 as a bygone road evoking a simpler era of road trips and song. But Karen Macaulay and Andy Garrett say Europeans like them still get their kicks retracing a decommissioned highway that now exists officially only in tour guides and on the occasional brown historical marker. U.S. Route 66, a more than 2,400-mile link between the nation's second and third most populous cities, is hardly a distant memory for many. Traveling on it often is regarded overseas as the ultimate vacation experience in America, especially if done in a vintage convertible with fins, said the couple from Guildford, England. "If we go back and say, `We did Route 66,' people would say, `Oh my goodness, you did everything!'" said Macaulay, an office manager in her 30s. "It's a classic American trek," Garrett, 38, added. So on a recent afternoon, when Garrett was on break from a temporary job in L.A. as a software specialist, the couple followed the old route from Los Angeles as they headed to Las Vegas. Among their first stops was a former roadhouse that is now a modest exhibit hall for Route 66 lore, the California Route 66 Museum, in the small, high desert town of Victorville. They were greeted by museum President Charlotte "Chick" Kirk, 75, guardian of the romance of the open road. The museum is a quaint display of odds and ends, including a rickety Model T from 1917 with wooden floorboards. Historic markers There's even a 78 r.p.m. record by Nat "King" Cole made when his group was known as The King Cole Trio. On it, Cole sings what's running through all our minds now: "[Get Your Kicks On] Route 66," written by Bobby Troup. Then there are Route 66's nicknames. In "Grapes of Wrath," John Steinbeck called the route the "mother road" of America, used by destitute families fleeing the Dust Bowl for California. The highway used to pass through eight states, including Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. Also known as "the Main Street of America," "the Will Rogers Highway" and "the Glory Road," Route 66 took travelers on a half-continent journey past iconic features: chicken fried steak joints, barbecue shacks, eccentric roadside attractions, kitschy motels and ancient pueblos. And it was a journey of boiling radiators and flat tires. "There's not as much to see as there used to be--because the freeway knocked out a lot of the mom-and-pop stuff and the fun things," said Kirk, who still speaks with an accent from her Massachusetts upbringing, pronouncing water as "watah." But the federal government has provided $1.5 million in grants since 2001 to renovate bridges, theaters, motels, hotels, cafes and gas stations under the Route 66 Corridor Preservation Program, said project manager Michael Taylor of the National Park Service. The grants will end in 2009, he said. "People want to see this America, this real America," Taylor said. Museum visitor Cynthia Wrayhall, 42, of Palmdale, Calif., said that of the dozen similar museums she has visited in the Southwest, she is partial to Victorville's. Wrayhall has even decorated the interior of her motor home with Route 66 mementos from the museum's gift shop. During her recent visit, she bought a Route 66 cookbook that featured recipes for Chicago's Palmer House Hilton's French Quarter seafood gumbo and the Berghoff alpen ragout. Up the road in nearby Barstow, Debra Hodkin, 55, manages another shrine, the Route 66 Mother Road Museum, where she says she greets visitors from all over the world who traverse the old byway. Most of them, Hodkin said, begin their trip at the eastern end of Route 66 at Lake Shore Drive and Jackson Boulevard in Chicago's Grant Park. "Every day is truly a surprise," Hodkin said of the travelers. Symbolized freedom Between the roadway's opening in 1926 and 1936, the western end was in downtown Los Angeles, said Scott Piotrowski, 34, author of "Finding the End of the Mother Road: Route 66 in Los Angeles County." Its terminus was then placed farther west, in the oceanfront city of Santa Monica, until 1964. Then the highway stopped in Pasadena until 1975, when the California leg of Route 66 was decertified because of the creation of Interstate Highway 40, said Piotrowski, an aficionado of road lore whose full-time job is working for a postproduction film facility. By 1985, all of Route 66 was eighty-sixed. "At the time that Route 66 was in its heyday, we were looked upon as a great nation. We had just come out of World War II, [we had] the big economic boom of the late '40s and '50s ... the fins of the '57 Chevys," Piotrowski said. "That is the big interest of the people internationally, and that is what they want to see, the symbols of the roads that symbolize freedom." ---------- mjmartinez@tribune.com Copyright © 2006, Chicago Tribune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Ok all you baby-boomers, musical roadologists, vinyl collectors and anyone expecting an income tax refund this year...............coming soon to an on-line store near you (April 15, 2006) the Ion USB Turntable, as showcased at this year's CES (Consumer Electronic Store). This is a turntable that plays 33 & 45 RPM records, comes with a cartridge, and plugs directly in to your computer. It come with software that allows one touch recording directly to MP3, with a built-in scratch & pop filter. As someone with 5,000+ albums I can't wait....... Some stores are advertising this at $130 but no one really has it available yet. Amazon is advertising this at $139 with free shipping - http://xrl.us/j4r7 and it looks like Circuit City will be carrying it at $135 - http://xrl.us/j4sa ypsilantily, ypsi-slim Wow, thanks for waking up a faded memory. That is an album that I really like but I only have it on vinyl so I haven't listened to it since my turntable broke many years back. So I just ordered up a CD. --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russell S. Rein Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 One of the more unusual but absolutely great Rt. 66 related songs was jazz vocalist Teri Thornton's Open Road which is Nelson Riddle's TV theme WITH LYRICS! This was the title song on Teri's 1963 Columbia album with Teri in a white Corvette on the cover. This is pretty hard to find, and I just figured out it was reissued on CD by Koch, a German Company in 2000, but is out-of-print. You can hear a teaser of this song at Amazon: http://xrl.us/j4sg ypsilantily, ypsi-slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Backlin Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Does it play 78's ? My dad would love it if it did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-slim@juno.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Song > Ok all you baby-boomers, musical roadologists, vinyl collectors and > anyone expecting an income > tax refund this year...............coming soon to an on-line store near > you (April 15, 2006) the Ion > USB Turntable, as showcased at this year's CES (Consumer Electronic > Store). > > This is a turntable that plays 33 & 45 RPM records, comes with a > cartridge, and plugs directly in > to your computer. It come with software that allows one touch recording > directly to MP3, with a > built-in scratch & pop filter. As someone with 5,000+ albums I can't > wait....... > > Some stores are advertising this at $130 but no one really has it > available yet. Amazon is > advertising this at $139 with free shipping - http://xrl.us/j4r7 > and it looks like Circuit City will be carrying it at $135 - > http://xrl.us/j4sa > > ypsilantily, > > ypsi-slim > > > Wow, thanks for waking up a faded memory. That is an album that I really > like but I only have it on vinyl so I haven't listened to it since my > turntable broke many years back. So I just ordered up a CD. > > --Denny > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send > it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jerry McClanahan Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Ron, All I know right now is that it was a Kerr station (????if memory serves right..dunno where those little yellow boxes of kodachromes are right now) and that someone seems to be fixing it up. It is indeed a grand old station, and I'm well pleased to see that it is loved by someone. There's also a well preserved little cottage-style station in town, plus numerous other goodies. McJerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Digest Number 676 > > > There are 2 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re:US 77 > From: "Jerry McClanahan" <jerrymc66@earthlink.net> > 2. Re:US 77 > From: "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@yahoo.com> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:33:29 -0600 > From: "Jerry McClanahan" <jerrymc66@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re:US 77 > > Old US 77 South of OKC is indeed a trip! I have often taken this old > 2-lane > highway, instead of I-35, when returning home from Route 66 trips, and > enjoy > the quiet drive thru the OK countryside. > > Since the early 1980s, I've shot photos of old gas stations, cafes and > even > a section of one-lane slab road! I followed old 77 last spring, and most > of the old stations are still there, in small towns like Pauls Valley and > Davis. The climb over the mountains by Turner Falls is a roadie treat. > Hooray for two-lanes! > > McJerry > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:18:30 -0000 > From: "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re:US 77 > > > Jerry, do you know what I'm talking about with that Art Deco gas > station in Pauls Valley? Do you know much about it? Emily took a > picture of it, but we haven't developed the film yet. > > Ron Warnick > Tulsa, OK > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry McClanahan" > <jerrymc66@e...> wrote: >> Old US 77 South of OKC is indeed a trip! I have often taken this > old 2-lane >> highway, instead of I-35, when returning home from Route 66 trips, > and enjoy >> the quiet drive thru the OK countryside. >> >> Since the early 1980s, I've shot photos of old gas stations, cafes > and even >> a section of one-lane slab road! I followed old 77 last spring, > and most >> of the old stations are still there, in small towns like Pauls > Valley and >> Davis. The climb over the mountains by Turner Falls is a roadie treat. >> Hooray for two-lanes! >> >> McJerry > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send > it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Hi Folks, Thought I would chime in here at the risk of revealing my age. Way back in the 1960s, when I was a high-schooler, US77 the road leading to Turner Falls--a beautiful park and swimming hole (party site supreme) for us big city boys about 100 miles away. This was when I-35 was still being built through the Arbuckle Mountains. Motoring through Purcell, Wynnewood (Winnie-wood), Pauls Valley, Davis, ect. on that old blue highway was a true adventure. In those days, you could get a blue plate special at any diner along the way for under a buck. I remember clearly the construction project when ODOT blasted through those ancient rock mountains to breach that formidable barrier. Today, as Ron and Jerry point out, old 77 is still a great drive. Most of the little towns are just far enough off the interstate to have retained their nostalgic appeal. So if your travels ever take you between OKC and Dallas, don't miss the chance to give it a try. Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 As many of you are already aware, I have been giving walking tours of 66 in downtown Chicago on an "as requested" basis for the last several years. I have now set up a regular schedule for the tours. I have also created a brochure that describes the tours, pricing, and gives directions and advice for transportation, parking, etc. Anyone interested in more info can get it on my website at the following link, and there is also a link on the website to view and/or print out the brochure: http://www.windycityroadwarrior.com/Tours/Tours.html As you will see, the standard tours are $10.00 per person. They last about 2 hours and cover about 1 mile of ground. The tours are laid out in a circular path so they start and end at the same location. And, if any of you would like to have a supply of the brochures for your business, museum, or other venue, or if you need a few to pass on to others with a potential interest, please contact me off-list with your mailing address and I will send them off once I have a sufficient number printed--end of week or so. Regards, Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior dave@windycityroadwarrior.com 312-432-1284 843 W. Adams Street #312 Chicago, IL 60607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 While the annual Fun Run is on our list of things to do, we won't be making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte would love it!...Bliss --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@...> wrote: > > How many list members are planning to be in Arizona the weekend of May 5-7 for the annual Fun Run? > > Mike > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Butko Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 My mom and dad had his and her '77 Monte Carlos, one silver, one blue, each with obligatory vinyl landau roof. We loved them. They ran differently, but each rusted just as quickly as the other. That had to be the last year that car hoods were ever that looong. Brian www.brianbutko.com > From: "brownwho63" <brownwho63@yahoo.com> > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:56:09 -0000 > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Going to the Arizona Fun Run? > > While the annual Fun Run is on our list of things to do, we won't be > making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte would love it!...Bliss > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ward" <flyboy1946@...> wrote: >> >> How many list members are planning to be in Arizona the weekend of >> May 5-7 for the annual Fun Run? >> >> Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CARuth Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 roaddog_rt66 wrote: I did a little more research and he has a new museum dedicated to his work in the old 1905 N & W train depot in Roanaoke, Virginia. He did most of his filming of the steam locomotives of the Norfolk and Western Railroad, the last major US railroad to exclusively use steam locomotives. Next door is the Virginia Museum of Transportation which has two famous N&W locomotives on display. --------------- I have visited the Roanoke Museum and it is exceptional - you can view Mr. Link's equipment, including the various lights that he used for the night shots and even see the shot in an exhibit before lighting and you can add the lights of your choice, individually, to see how they affect the scene - the winding walk through the little archway outside with it's neon HOTEL sign will lead you up to the most historic and impressive Hotel Roanoke. Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plyon66 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Dear Friend of Route 66: The Route 66 Association of Missouri and the Missouri Department of Transportation (MoDOT) invites you to attend the DEDICATION ("ribbon cutting") festivities for the new State Scenic Byway--Historic Route 66. The event will take place at Kearney and Glenstone (old Route 66), Springfield, Missouri, on Friday, May 5, 2006, at 11 AM. This is the site where on July 10, 1990, Governor John Ashcroft signed half of his name to House Bill 1629 designating Old U.S. Highway 66 as a Historic Highway in Missouri, and allowing the MoDOT to post appropriate signage along the right-of-way. Governor Ashcroft had signed part of his name to House Bill 1629 in Waynesville, Missouri, earlier that day because the bill was originally sponsored by representatives from both Waynesville and Springfield. This is also the site where the first Historic Route 66 sign was installed in July 1991. The Route 66 Association of Missouri and MoDOT worked together for over two years to gain "Scenic Byway" status for Historic Route 66 in Missouri. On November 9, 2005, the Missouri Highways and Transportation Commission voted unanimously to designate Historic Route 66 as a State Scenic Byway. Covering over 300 miles, the Historic Route 66 Byway will be the longest Scenic Byway in the state. Route 66 spans the state from the Illinois state line to the Kansas state line, and is considered a modern-day byway. We hope your schedule will accommodate your presence at this milestone in the history of Route 66. For more information or if you have questions, please feel free to contact Bob Edwards with MoDOT in Springfield at 417-895-7600 or Tommy Pike, President of the Route 66 Association of Missouri, at 417-865-1318. We would also appreciate notification of your intent to attend so that we may properly acknowledge you. Best Regards,Tommy Pike, President Route 66 Association of Missouri www.missouri66.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 No, Brian....didn't Cadillacs, ironically another GM product, have hoods longer than the Monte's well into the 1980's??? LOL. Matt Smallwood On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:12:42 -0400 Brian Butko <babutko@hswp.org> wrote: > > > > My mom and dad had his and her '77 Monte Carlos, one > silver, one blue, each > with obligatory vinyl landau roof. We loved them. They > ran differently, but > each rusted just as quickly as the other. > > That had to be the last year that car hoods were ever > that looong. > > Brian > www.brianbutko.com > > > > > From: "brownwho63" > <brownwho63@yahoo.com> > > Reply-To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:56:09 -0000 > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Going to the Arizona > Fun Run? > > > > While the annual Fun Run is on our list of things to > do, we won't be > > making the run again this year. Our '77 Monte > would love it!...Bliss > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike > Ward" <flyboy1946@...> wrote: > >> > >> How many list members are planning to be in > Arizona the weekend of > >> May 5-7 for the annual Fun Run? > >> > >> Mike > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. > Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 In a message dated 4/19/06 11:21:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 2lanetravlr20@verizon.net writes: the winding walk through the little archway outside with it's neon HOTEL sign will lead you up to the most historic and impressive Hotel Roanoke. ==================================================================== The Norfolk and Western Railway built that hotel. The Link photo at the drive in theater is supposed to picture five forms of transportation, according to something I saw in the museum. Train, car and plane (on the movie screen) are obvious. I suppose the people in the picture had feet, so walking makes four. But what was the fifth? Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoAnn Jacot Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I grew up at the Siesta Motel that used to be on U.S. Hwy 40 (later E. 4th street) west of Reno, NV. It was owned by my parents for almost 60 years. The rooms were in log cabins that had been built prior to WWII. My dad put in a swimming pool on the front lawn, which was the first motel in Reno with a swimming pool. It was sold a few years ago before my Dad passed away. It is now the location of storage sheds and there is no sign of our motel ever having been there. I don't have the heart to even drive by there anymore. I have fond memories of waiving at the train engineers, going over to the Truckee River on the other side of the tracks to skip rocks across. Thankfully before the motel was gone I had contacted the local newspaper and they did do a very nice article on the motel and my Dad. I figured our motel deserved an obituary just as much as people do! There still are lots of old motels along 4th Street in Reno probably because those areas don't have interest to mega-stores. My husband and I were back in Maryland in April. We drove on Hwy 40 there during our trip. Glad to see that it was well marked. JoAnn, Gardnerville, NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I was sitting here this morning with not much else to do - weather here in Southern Maine is foul enough to obstruct outside work, we've vacuumed most of the overnight accumulation of water out of the cellar and we up-dated one of my Hudson Motor Car Company technical bulletin. So without much else on my mind, except the usual survival from day to day, I began to ruminate upon the joys and excitement of traveling the old 2 lane highways - from the point of view of one who has "been there, done that". I came up with some interesting observations between then and now. Food: Most places to eat were Mom and Pop places. Generally the food was very good, plentiful and wholesome - much better for the body than the "toss it to you-grab it and run" fast food establishments of today. Of course the kids still favored the burger or hot dog, if given the choice - with most parents, fat chance, at least with mine. It was said that one good sign of a great place to eat was to stop where the truckers were. Well, that was partly true - some of those places were frequented by truckers because the waitresses were, let's say, quite "friendly" - trucking back in those days was, more-so than today, a very, very lonely occupation. But generally speaking the food was ok, tho. Roads: Here you took your chances. Road maps would tell you how to get from here to there - but not necessarily tell you about the narrow bridges, sharp curves and narrow with no shoulders highways. AAA published Tour Books - and this example from a 1941 Northeastern copy will illustrate why this book, along with Duncan Hines books, were required traveling material: "83 - Clarksburg to Charelston, W. Va. An interesting trip thru thickly settled, hilly, wooded, farming and mining country. Between Weston and Clendenin there is a choice of two routes, both good; via Spencer being 14 miles shorter." The map shows the route numbers (via Spencer) as being U S 33 and 119 (I've driven over that one); from Clendenin thru Gassaway and Sutton being U S 19. Unfortunately, neither the tour guides, nor the road maps, told you about the speed traps where a local officer of the law would pop out of a bush and tell you exactly how fast you were going over the speed limit - without a radar gun, no less. Those boys were sharp. Judges were on duty 24-7 to part you from your cash - as in "How much you got, son? $40?? You were doing 4 miles over the limit - that's a $40 fine!!!" If you were smart you hid the rest of you money in your shoe. The south was famous for these speed traps. There was light at the end of the tunnel tho - you could contact your local AAA office and they would send you a list of (known) speed traps. Accomodations: Like anything else ranged from excellent to great for the dog - if he'd stay there!! The best featured comfortable and clean beds, clean rooms - many accomodations were in the form of cabins. Some even featured garages between the cabins to put your car inside. I know there were some of these in California, probably other places - I found one on U S 70 just south of Brinkley, Arkansas, the Cottage Inn (had to look it up in a 1941 Western AAA Tour Book). A novel idea and I'm sure many Mr. Businessman and his secretary took advantage!!! Beats parking your car out in front of the whole world. So, in retrospect, how does traveling 50 years ago compare with today. Yesterday was certainly an adventure. Most trips were made on trains, it was tantamount to a Lewis and Clark expedition to drive to your destination on the old roads. There was something new around every bend of the road (how we waited anxiously for that entrance to the Pennsylvania Turnpike on the drive to Ohio) - today we have miles and miles of boring interestate. There's a Mickey D or BK on every corner and a chain motel at every exit. We no longer have a choice to try something different. Safer traveling - definitely: an improvement - maybe. Happy Traveling. Hudsonly, Alex B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 OK folks we are looking for some volunteers to assist at a few events being held in Southern California. If you have the time and want to be involved with three GREAT events please let me know. I will forward your information on. September 14-17 Rendezvous in San Bernardino this is the Grand Daddy of all Route 66 events. September 23-24 Route 66 Days in West Hollywood. September 30 & October 1 Cars of the Stars Universal CityWalk Why not sign up for all three? They are each unique and different from each other so it will not be the same event each week end. That is what makes them each an important attraction and a must see event. If you want more information on these events please let me know. Share this with your family and friends make volunteering a fun thing. We promise your time and work is important to us. Events can not succeed without the VOLUNTEERS. Let me share with you something I was told by a 82 year old lady that volunteers at the museum in Clinton, OK "Volunteers are not paid because they are worthless but because they are PRICELESS" Being a part of any event by volunteering puts you right into the action. We want you, we need you and we will love you for being a volunteer. Thanks James M Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 760 868 8614 fax 760 868 3320 jimconkle@verizon.net www.cart66pf.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parsa9 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 The NOTR probably followed pretty close to the railway. As I recall, it probably went closer to the Ibis siding than 66 did. I also found a dirt road parallel to 66 on the way to Goffs. It was on the south side of the paved road and went for miles parallel to the paved alignment. There were rail ties across the road at intervals, maybe to prevent washouts during flash flooding. It sure made rough going. There's a picture of this road in the California section of my photos page on my site: http://ushighway66.com/ (look at photo CA04homer04) I didn't follow this road back east from Homer, but it may have gone more directly towards Klinefelter. However, I'd generally guess that the 1926 alignment of 66 (and the old utility poles) stayed pretty close to the NOTR. This path was not just the NOTR, but also the National Park to Park Highway, the New Santa Fe Trail and perhaps some other named trails to LA. In Barstow the NOTR picked up some other roads such as the Pikes Peak Ocean to Ocean and the Arrowhead Trail. The best places to look for clues would be Caltran's library in the LA/San Bernardino area, the main libraries and historical societies, the state archives in Sacramento, and I'd also try writing to the experts on the Mojave area at the Mojave Desert Heritage and Cultural Association: http://www.mdhca.org/ They are based in Goffs and may be able to tell you about the NOTR in the Mojave. Parsa --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, adamghost@a... wrote: > Speaking of named highways from the '20s, I wanted to follow up on an earlier post on here. I've been making trips out to the Mojave for the last several months and acquiring old maps to investigate the original routing of Route 66 through California and in so doing I think I've found and traced several alignments of the National Old Trails Highway and found some really fascinating things....really great places to hike or do some 4-wheeling, and I think I've accumulated some information about the NOTH that's never really been gone into in depth before. > > I've decided that I'm going to try to put up a website at some point soon and share some of what I've found...I have a few pix and enough info to make a rudamentary website and in the fall when it cools down I hope to go out with a digital camera and get some more pix. > > I don't have much experience with this kind of thing, though, so I wanted to ask some of the people here who have done roadgeek websites if they have any experience with downloading and modifying TerraServer and USGS maps. Also, I'm thinking of acquiring a domain name... oldtrails.com is taken...what would the roadgeek community think would be the next best one? > > I'd value any suggestions about this...the only web program I possess is Adobe GoLive, but I could probably scam another one off the keyboard player in my band... > > adam > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Hello Walt, Here are a few links I found in a recent search of both the web and my own favorites. You didn't say when the trip will take place, so I'm not sure how much time you have for research. I do know that Newark to Cape May is more like 2/3's the length of the State and Business-Rt-9, (as opposed to The Parkway) is a treasure trove of Diners, Drive-in Ice Cream stands, Motels and the like. But it could take an entire day to drive that highway, as it has also become one giant strip-mall in places. You will enjoy Cape May for the Victorianna and surrounding Shore Resort areas for the Deco and Googie Architecture. And if you are interested in Nature, . . one of the world's largest fresh water Aquifers and Aviaries. Let me extend a warm welcome to "The Garden State". ... Chris, "NJ Exit 7-A" http://aesop.rutgers.edu/~rugardens/ http://www.hoganphoto.com/new_page_1.htm http://www.gsenet.org/library/12lnd/pinelnds.php http://www.wildnj.com/br4-14.htm http://www.roadsideamerica.com/map/nj.html http://www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/motel/newjersey/ http://www.ronsaari.com/stockImages/newJersey/ http://theshadowlands.net/places/newjersey.htm http://www.weirdnj.com/home/index.html http://www.sca-roadside.org/events/wildwood/ http://www.roadsidepeek.com/rpeekeast/mote...otel/index2.htm http://www.ronsaari.com/stockImages/googie/moonMotelSign.php http://bobjagendorf.smugmug.com/gallery/352028 http://www.eccentricamerica.net/links.cfm http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...5-2000May6.html http://www.houseplantpicturestudio.com/HPS...ol/parasol.html http://www.wildwoodsnj.com/press/newsDetail.asp?id=32 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, WALTER HACKNEY <gyrfal@j...> wrote: > Hello friends- > > I just learned I will be making a "family business" trip to New Jersey. I > will be flying into Newark from Denver (cheapest fares by far!) then > driving the length of the state to Cape May on the Garden State Parkway > (rt 9). I won't have much time to sight see, but I don't want to miss any > easy landmarks I could catch along the road. I want to be sure to visit > the starting point of my favorite Highway 40 in Atlantic City - can > anyone that has been there recently help me with directions or landmarks? > Also, any advice of other sites a short distance from the Parkway would > be appreciated. > > Also, any of you that are interested in the Denver, CO area please > contact me to swap stories or compare notes. > > Thanks -- > > Walt Hackney > Gyrfal@J... > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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