Guest Pat B. Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Hi folks, Recently we had a situation where we had a new subscriber who immediately posted a note advertising merchandise they sell. That note never made the list. Advertising is a big part of American Road and in fairness to our advertisers, we ask that you refrain from posting messages that are geared toward selling merchandise. There are plenty of talented subscribers here who have some fine items to promote. And I think you've all respected the fact our group is designed toward conversation and not commerce. In the future, if you have something to sell that you think would be beneficial for the group members to be aware of, please contact Becky Repp at the magazine: becky @ mockturtlepress.com . She'd be happy to work with you on ways to get the word out. Thanks for your cooperation! Pat & Jennifer Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Moderators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lonehichillbilly@aol.com Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Pat, It is sad, that someone has nothing better to do, than burn a covered bridge. I guess some folks don't understand the importance of things like that. Even if it was rebuilt, it just wouldn't be the same. Some things can never be replaced, so when something like that happens, it's just one more step toward being totally forgotten. Just think of all the people who will never get to see it now. Sad...sad...sad. Jim N. Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lonehichillbilly@aol.com Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Hello, How about alligators? They're the long pieces of tire recaps that come off 18 wheelers, and lay across the road, or if you're unlucky, they end up coming through your windshield. Not good...LOL. Jim N. Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 another one I thought of when driving I-55 out of Chicago to St Louis it is referred to as the 'double nickle" Lulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Sad news to report from Bridgeton, IN today. As some of you around the midwest may know, Parke County, IN has 30-plus covered bridges along its country roads, and they have a 2-week covered bridge festival in October that attracts thousands. Early this morning, the 1868 Bridgton covered bridge was apparently set ablaze by an arsonist. The bridge was the cornerstone for this tiny hamlet, and one of the more popular stops during the festival. It appears to be a total loss. Here is a picture of it from 2003: http://tinyurl.com/7jvup Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Sorry...here's the correct URL: http://tinyurl.com/cd5zx --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > Sad news to report from Bridgeton, IN today. As some of you around > the > midwest may know, Parke County, IN has 30-plus covered bridges along > its country roads, and they have a 2-week covered bridge festival in > October that attracts thousands. Early this morning, the 1868 > Bridgton > covered bridge was apparently set ablaze by an arsonist. The bridge > was > the cornerstone for this tiny hamlet, and one of the more popular > stops > during the festival. It appears to be a total loss. Here is a picture > of it from 2003: http://tinyurl.com/7jvup > > Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Sad & senseless. I was very aware of the Parke County festival. It has been on my "to do" list for a few years but was always pushed aside. That is a very long bridge and a very old one. I thought it might be the oldest in Parke Co. but checked and learned that it isn't. Before you posted the repaired URL, I poked around RoadTripMemories a little found pictures called parkecounty19 & parkecounty21 that show the word Bridgeton. Are these other shots of the same bridge? > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:15 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Covered Bridge Fire > > Sorry...here's the correct URL: http://tinyurl.com/cd5zx > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Pat B." <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > > Sad news to report from Bridgeton, IN today. As some of you > around the > > midwest may know, Parke County, IN has 30-plus covered > bridges along > > its country roads, and they have a 2-week covered bridge > festival in > > October that attracts thousands. Early this morning, the > 1868 Bridgton > > covered bridge was apparently set ablaze by an arsonist. The bridge > > was the cornerstone for this tiny hamlet, and one of the > more popular > > stops during the festival. It appears to be a total loss. Here is a > > picture of it from 2003: http://tinyurl.com/7jvup > > > > Pat B. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without > music, dance, and theater? > Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/Tcy2bD/SOnJAA/cosFAA/bgxwlB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------~-> > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, > WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via > e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > Sad & senseless. I was very aware of the Parke County festival. It has been > on my "to do" list for a few years but was always pushed aside. > > That is a very long bridge and a very old one. I thought it might be the > oldest in Parke Co. but checked and learned that it isn't. Before you posted > the repaired URL, I poked around RoadTripMemories a little found pictures > called parkecounty19 & parkecounty21 that show the word Bridgeton. Are these > other shots of the same bridge? Denny, Yes, those two you mention are of the Bridgeton bridge. On this page, http://roadtripmemories.com/trips/parkecounty.htm , these pics are of the Bridgeton: Row 2: 1st & 5th pics Row 3: 4th & 6th pics (the 5th pic is taken from the bridge looking out) Sad & senseless indeed. I read a story where authorities caught a man with a can of gasoline at a second covered bridge early this morning after the Bridgeton was engulfed. So at least they caught the guy and he won't be doing any more harm. It's very unfortunate these bridges are vulnerable, since they're in sparsely populated areas with little if any chance of anyone noticing a fire until it's too late. Another one was destroyed in 2002. Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Parke County has loaded pics of the Bridgeton on their website this afternoon. Sickening: http://www.coveredbridges.com/ Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think it's fairly abusive to use any email group to get new spam opportunities. If American Road, and the members of this group, want to allow advertising, that's another story. Anyone else have thoughts on this? I, for one, want to see no advertising on the group....but I'll respect the feelings of the majority. Matt Smallwood On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:40:54 -0000 "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > Recently we had a situation where we had a new > subscriber who > immediately posted a note advertising merchandise they > sell. That note > never made the list. Advertising is a big part of > American Road and in > fairness to our advertisers, we ask that you refrain from > posting > messages that are geared toward selling merchandise. > There are plenty > of talented subscribers here who have some fine items to > promote. And I > think you've all respected the fact our group is designed > toward > conversation and not commerce. > In the future, if you have something to sell that > you think would be > beneficial for the group members to be aware of, please > contact Becky > Repp at the magazine: becky @ mockturtlepress.com . She'd > be happy to > work with you on ways to get the word out. > > Thanks for your cooperation! > > Pat & Jennifer Bremer > American Road Yahoo Group Moderators > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. > Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Debra Hodkin Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 The Route 66 Mother Road Museum is developing a new web site! www.route66museum.org Please check out our progress. We are in the process of giving more info and more pics. Event flyers, membership & volunteer forms can be downloaded for your convenience. As always email and phone messages are quickly returned. We are attempting to open more than three days per week during the summer. If planning to visit, please call in advance if able as we will try our best to accommodate your visit if during a time the museum is not regularly open. We don't want to miss you! Please send your comments/suggestions to our webmaster. Contact info is easily found on the web site. Check under Calendar of Events for the Museum's 5th Anniversary Event June 18th! Debra Route 66 Mother Road Museum Historic Harvey House 681 N. First Ave. Barstow, CA 92311 760-255-1890 www.route66museum.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 "The old bridge was torn down a few years back". I was looking at the American Road photo albums and I last went over the old bridge at De Val, AR, in Jan of 2004. I ended my cross Arkasas trip, at that time, in Brinkley, as I had to be getting back to Memphis. I started that road trip in Alma and took 64 to Russellville, where I shifted on to the interstate to LR - I picked up 70 just to the east of LR at Kerr Road. Someday, soon, perhaps next January, I'm going to finish 70 from Brinkly to Memphis - and maybe fill in the gap between Russellville and LR. Then I can say, again, I've crossed Arkansas on the old roads. Thing was the first time I did it, was coming from Norman, OK, to Memphis and was in 1956!!! LOL Happy Traveling everybody. Hudsonly, Alex B --- J Lance <bugo@hotmail.com> wrote: > > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > I loved the old picture of the White River Bridge > in > > De Val, Arkansas - I've crossed over that bridge > > several times over the years. Most recently a > year or > > two back. At that time they were working on a > by-pass > > a bit to the north of the old bridge - it appeared > > they were using the old railroad right of way for > the > > by-pass. I have a photo of it on the American > Road > > egroup > > DeValls Bluff. I snapped some pics of it a few > years back, so I uploaded > them to the Pictures section. If the owner of the > list wants to move them > into the US 70 folder, feel free to. The bridge was > apparently torn down a > few years back. A shame. > > There's a nice bridge over the St Francis on US 70 > east of Forrest City. > Trivoo time: Forrest City was named after the > founder of the KKK. > > > I have a 1925 Rand McNally Road Atlas that does > show the Lee Highway and > its pole marker. > > Allowing for the fact that road maps of 80 years > ago were not all that > > detailed, it's relatively > > easy to follow it across the country. If you'd > like to me scan and e-mail > > you the pages that > > show it let me know. I've also got a few other > old map/guide sources that > > I didn't have time to > > research last night but I can dig into them this > weekend if you're > > interested. > > I'd love to see the Arkansas map from 1925. That 25 > RMcN is a treasure. > > > Why do you think it followed US-45 and 64 out of > Corinth to Memphis? Why > > didn't it just > > follow 72 all the way there? Are the 45 and 64 > older roads? The thing that > > may make me > > think you're right is how much more populated the > northern route is > > compared to the > > Mississippi route on the 72. > > US 72 originally followed modern US 64 east from > Memphis before turning > south into Mississippi. I'm not sure if it followed > modern US 45 or not. > Originally US 64 ended at US 65 in Conway, AR. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > What would our lives be like without music, dance, > and theater? > Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for > Good! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/Tcy2bD/SOnJAA/cosFAA/bgxwlB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a > message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D Stearns Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Did you talk to any of the employees or did you just see them driving by? To: : chris@experiencenascar.comDate: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:09:18 +0000Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Fellow Cartographigeeks!I saw one of these, Southbound I-295 near Moorestown, NJ today ..."Mobile Mapping vehicles – Equipped with: six digital cameras that captureboth still and moving images, with at least two configured as stereopair;precisely tuned positioning devices, including a GPS receiver, gyroscope,odometer, and computer equipment for efficient data collection, storage,and processing."http://www.teleatlas.com/Pub/Products/Mobi...ng/index.htmSIX CAMERAS!!!!These were the big security buggers like they have scanning the parkinglot at Walmart!!!! . . Mounted on the roof of a compact car! Plus the GPSunit that I see on a lot of big semi trucks. . . . . Nice toys!!Tried to get on camera, but the driver took an exit before I could get close.How do I get that gig???... ChrisVisit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.comTo subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY!Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.comTo SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Denny, As you discovered, the abandoned sections of the National Road at the Great Miami and Stillwater Rivers in western Ohio are really cool. They are, in many way, sections of roadway frozen in time. For me, it is amazing to see those sections and imagine wagons and early autos on them. I especially like how the park uses the old road as a foot path in the Stillwater River area. Here are two maps showing the paths of the old road at the rivers. Frank -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denny Gibson Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:57 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 19th Century Ghost Bridge Yesterday I made a short off road excursion (on foot) to peek at the long gone town of Tadmor, Ohio. It's not exactly a road trip and I'm sure that only a few automobiles were ever driven over the bridges there but I thought a few group members might be interested. The National Road once bridged both the Great Miami River and the Miami & Erie canal here but I only found the abutments for the canal bridge. A rainy day made the area pretty wet so I did not go exploring for any remaining signs of the river bridge. Some "roadless" photos at http://www.dennygibson.com/oddment/tadmor/index.htm --Denny Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I still have the Stillwater section to checkout and I definitely want to roam around Tadmor some more - on a dry day. It's kind of embarrassing to think how many times I've driven US-40 over those dams and am only now taking the time to get off of them. As I stood beside that old abutment on Saturday, I did exactly what you said and tried to picture wagons passing over it. Your comment on the Stillwater makes me a little more anxious to take a look. I'll be near by coming home from my Dad's this weekend and may just have to give it a try. I'm guessing the maps you mentioned were attachments and this group just doesn't allow them. You can post them to the group's photo or files section. I'm sure I'm not the only one interested. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Brusca, Frank [mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:23 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 19th Century Ghost Bridge > > Denny, > > As you discovered, the abandoned sections of the National > Road at the Great Miami and Stillwater Rivers in western Ohio > are really cool. They are, in many way, sections of roadway > frozen in time. For me, it is amazing to see those sections > and imagine wagons and early autos on them. I especially > like how the park uses the old road as a foot path in the > Stillwater River area. > > Here are two maps showing the paths of the old road at the rivers. > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denny Gibson > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:57 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 19th Century Ghost Bridge > > Yesterday I made a short off road excursion (on foot) to peek > at the long gone town of Tadmor, Ohio. It's not exactly a > road trip and I'm sure that only a few automobiles were ever > driven over the bridges there but I thought a few group > members might be interested. The National Road once bridged > both the Great Miami River and the Miami & Erie canal here > but I only found the abutments for the canal bridge. A rainy > day made the area pretty wet so I did not go exploring for > any remaining signs of the river bridge. > > Some "roadless" photos at > http://www.dennygibson.com/oddment/tadmor/index.htm > > > --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I just uploaded the maps to the Groups server. Frank -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denny Gibson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:52 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 19th Century Ghost Bridge I still have the Stillwater section to checkout and I definitely want to roam around Tadmor some more - on a dry day. It's kind of embarrassing to think how many times I've driven US-40 over those dams and am only now taking the time to get off of them. As I stood beside that old abutment on Saturday, I did exactly what you said and tried to picture wagons passing over it. Your comment on the Stillwater makes me a little more anxious to take a look. I'll be near by coming home from my Dad's this weekend and may just have to give it a try. I'm guessing the maps you mentioned were attachments and this group just doesn't allow them. You can post them to the group's photo or files section. I'm sure I'm not the only one interested. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Brusca, Frank [mailto:fbrusca@otterbein.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:23 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 19th Century Ghost Bridge > > Denny, > > As you discovered, the abandoned sections of the National Road at the > Great Miami and Stillwater Rivers in western Ohio are really cool. > They are, in many way, sections of roadway frozen in time. For me, it > is amazing to see those sections and imagine wagons and early autos on > them. I especially like how the park uses the old road as a foot path > in the Stillwater River area. > > Here are two maps showing the paths of the old road at the rivers. > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Denny Gibson > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:57 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] 19th Century Ghost Bridge > > Yesterday I made a short off road excursion (on foot) to peek at the > long gone town of Tadmor, Ohio. It's not exactly a road trip and I'm > sure that only a few automobiles were ever driven over the bridges > there but I thought a few group members might be interested. The > National Road once bridged both the Great Miami River and the Miami & > Erie canal here but I only found the abutments for the canal bridge. A > rainy day made the area pretty wet so I did not go exploring for any > remaining signs of the river bridge. > > Some "roadless" photos at > http://www.dennygibson.com/oddment/tadmor/index.htm > > > --Denny ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/bgxwlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I went thru my roadmap collection this afternoon, between sessions of bailing out the basement, and came across a 1933 Kentucky-Tennessee road map. It shows U S 64 from Chattanooga to Memphis, U S 72 co-signed with U S 45 (along with TN 5) between Corinth and Selmer and MS 2 as an 'improved' road between Corinth and the MS/TN line outside Memphis where it becomes TN 96 - this is today U S 72. Hudsonly, Alex B --- parsa9 <parsa9@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm not an expert by any means, but it seems that > the named auto trails were not set out > like the later federal highways (well not completey > anyway). They were often roads of > economic convenience to the communities involved, > and were created by them to bring > prosperity to town. Perhaps the Huntsville boosters > were more active in the Lee Highway > movement than the other towns. (I'm not saying there > wasn't politics in the routes chosen > for the US highways, but they were not created > *soley* for the purpose of drawing > business through a town. There was a logical system > involved to some extent.) > I guess some of the auto trails were the product of > automobile clubs. Those might have > been chosen for being the best route through an > area. > One book I read even said that some auto trails were > simply "virtual" routes created on a > map in order to gather dues and make a profit. They > didn't sign or improve the road > themselves at all. How true that is I don't know. > > Parsa > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr > <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > > I based the 45/64 routing north of Corinth on > the > > picture in the Dr. S. M. Johnson Lee Highway > photos > > that you posted earlier. It shows a picture of > the > > Lee Highway west of Bolivar, TN - which is on U S > 64. > > > > The U S Highways US 1 to US 830 says, of U S 72 > - > > "Since 1926; west truncated Selmer, TN 1932; > extended > > west 1935; East truncated 1932; extended east > 1935." > > > > Selmer, TN, is at the junction of US 64 and 45. > So > > it appears at sometime or other the original > routing > > of 72 ended in Selmer, TN. In some way or manner. > > > > Having been over U S 72 with my (Memphis) > daughter > > within the past couple years I can say there is > still > > not much out there. It's a quicker route than 64 > over > > a comparable area, at least up to the Memphis city > > limits. You can by-pass the > Collierville/Germantown > > traffic by taking 385 (Nonconnah Parkway) over to > > I-240. > > > > Running across 64 robably had to do with the > > population, as you speculate. Of course this then > > begs the question of why didn't they just use 64 > > between Chattanooga and Memphis - if it existed > back > > then. Or did they run the old road from > Chattanooga > > to Huntsville because Huntsville was the largest > > town/city between Chattanooga and Memphis. That's > a > > distinct possiblity because the Tennesee Highways > web > > page says: "Date signed in TN - 1932." So it may > have > > not been in use in the early days. > > > > That's about what my take is on it. I'm sure > > somebody else has something to add to this, > > hopefully!! > > > > Happy Traveling. > > > > Hudsonly, > > Alex B > > > > --- parsa9 <parsa9@y...> wrote: > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr > > > <hester_nec@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > Looks to me like U S 29 out of Washington > DC, to > > > U S > > > > 11 to Chattanooga, then U S 72 to Huntsville, > AL, > > > > probably thru Corinth and U S 45 to 64 then to > > > Memphis > > > > where it picked up 70 west to the Imperial > Valley > > > - > > > > tho I didn't follow the road maps beyond > Arizona. > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it followed US-45 and 64 out of > > > Corinth to Memphis? Why didn't it just > > > follow 72 all the way there? Are the 45 and 64 > older > > > roads? The thing that may make me > > > think you're right is how much more populated > the > > > northern route is compared to the > > > Mississippi route on the 72. > > > > > > Parsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your > problems, > > but it will annoy enough people to make it worth > the effort. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Reynolds Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 That's quite a story! I'd never heard of a "dry dam" before. And I'd always wondered about those two little "blips" in the straight line that is US 40 around there:) Thanks for the enlightenment! BabyBoomerBob --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote: > > Yesterday I made a short off road excursion (on foot) to peek at the long > gone town of Tadmor, Ohio. It's not exactly a road trip and I'm sure that > only a few automobiles were ever driven over the bridges there but I thought > a few group members might be interested. The National Road once bridged both > the Great Miami River and the Miami & Erie canal here but I only found the > abutments for the canal bridge. A rainy day made the area pretty wet so I > did not go exploring for any remaining signs of the river bridge. > > Some "roadless" photos at > http://www.dennygibson.com/oddment/tadmor/index.htm > > > --Denny > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 As Glen Duncan said to me tonight, "You win some and you lose some. It feels good to win." And win we did. Tonight the West Hollywood (CA) Historic Preservation Commission heard arguments for and against granting Historic Cultural Landmark status for Irv's Burgers. The City Staff had recommended DENYING the request. However, the Commission, to the surprise of many, voted 5-2 in favor of a motion to recommend to West Hollywood City Council that landmark status should be granted to Irv's. At the hearing tonight, about 35 people (including Glen and myself, and several members of the Los Angeles Conservancy Modern Committee) all spoke. Of those, all but one spoke in favor of Irv's. Perhaps the most persuasive argument tonight was presented by a member of ModComm, who recommended a continuance. His reasoning was that the staff had hinted that further studies should be done to determine historical significance of Irv's to the burger stand culture that is primarily Southern Californian. That argument, in conjunction with Glen Duncan's statement that a survey of landmarks along the Route 66 in California was underway, was enough to prompt many members of the committee to be excited about Irv's more than they already were. There is still a long road ahead for Irv's, the California Route 66 Preservation Foundation, the Los Angeles Conservancy, the California Historic Route 66 Association, and the "Burger Brigade" that formed to help save Irv's. But the journey has gotten off on the right track, first with Peet's Coffee pulling out of a deal and now with the Commission's vote tonight. As Glen said, "It feels good to win." Scott Piotrowski Director, 66 Productions Moderator, Historic Roads PreservationZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Shellee, Thank you for letting us know. It was great to see both of you this weekend. How sad it had to be marred with such tragedy for Jim and his family. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Jim during this difficult time. Jennifer --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham <SHELLEE66@E...> wrote: > Re: the beloved KERMIT ROSS passed away June 25, 2005 > > Jim and I were enjoying the festivities in Litchfield, Illinois and received > a phone call on Sunday morning with the tragic news about the death of Jim's > father (a resident of Clearwater, Florida). > > After a family dinner, Kermit and his wife Doris were walking across a > fairly busy street when they were both hit by a car. From what I know right > now, Mr. Ross died instantly while his wife is now in a coma at the > hospital. > > You all know Jim and what a great guy he is. Well, his father was just like > JIM but a little older. He was 86 years old and led a full life. There is so > much to say about Jim's father, being a gunner in World War II, going back > to school and gathering up a couple of Master's degrees -- he was smart and > very, very funny; kind and generous just like his son, Jim. > > Today (Monday), Jim is driving to Florida to help with funeral arrangements, > look in on Doris Ross who is still in a coma, and all the other things that > need to be dealt with. > > If you'd like to send a note or card to JIM ROSS, his address is: > > Jim Ross > 13100 E. Old Highway 66 > Arcadia, OK 73007 > > I am sure he will appreciate them very much. > > Thanks. > > Shellee Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I> > > > > Walt Disney, like Route 66, started in Chicago and ended > > > > Jim: > > Yes, Disney lived in Chicago as a boy, and one of his family's homes > was on Ogden Avenue. > > > > > I recieved a book by a local AAA representative that stated the corner of > Joliet Road and RT 45 in Countryside. The White Castle is there now. This location was once the homestead of the Marx Brothers at the turn of the century, when the 'boys' were born, FYI, hugs, Lulu > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 We're so very sorry to hear about this. Will send a card today. Thanks for letting everyone know......Bliss & Navigator --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham <SHELLEE66@E...> wrote: > Re: the beloved KERMIT ROSS passed away June 25, 2005 > > Jim and I were enjoying the festivities in Litchfield, Illinois and received > a phone call on Sunday morning with the tragic news about the death of Jim's > father (a resident of Clearwater, Florida). > > After a family dinner, Kermit and his wife Doris were walking across a > fairly busy street when they were both hit by a car. From what I know right > now, Mr. Ross died instantly while his wife is now in a coma at the > hospital. > > You all know Jim and what a great guy he is. Well, his father was just like > JIM but a little older. He was 86 years old and led a full life. There is so > much to say about Jim's father, being a gunner in World War II, going back > to school and gathering up a couple of Master's degrees -- he was smart and > very, very funny; kind and generous just like his son, Jim. > > Today (Monday), Jim is driving to Florida to help with funeral arrangements, > look in on Doris Ross who is still in a coma, and all the other things that > need to be dealt with. > > If you'd like to send a note or card to JIM ROSS, his address is: > > Jim Ross > 13100 E. Old Highway 66 > Arcadia, OK 73007 > > I am sure he will appreciate them very much. > > Thanks. > > Shellee Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Valli Hoski Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 This is a real service, not an urban legend. For more details on how this service works, see http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/free411.asp Snopes. com is a large repository of urban "truths" and urban legends. Very useful for checking out purported services and improbably sounding emails. V. >Free 411 calls OT >Posted by: Lulupic66@aol.com >Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:46 am (PST) >This was sent to me by a friend on the list. I tried it and it really works I >have this number plugged into my cell. >Thought I would pass the info, >Lulu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David G. Clark Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Michalek" <big_ugly_mich@...> wrote: > > Walt Disney, like Route 66, started in Chicago and ended (well, his > life ended, but he lives on through his work) in Southern California. > Missouri and Kansas also figure in his professional development. I > wonder if Pixar won't play on that if they do a sequel to Cars? > Jim: Yes, Disney lived in Chicago as a boy, and one of his family's homes was on Ogden Avenue. No, it was NOT on the section of Ogden Avenue that would later become Route 66, (although it would be part of US 32 and 34), I still think that it is an interesting coincidence. The trip along 66 has come to define the ultimate American Vacation, but 66 came into existence due to the forces of commerce and business that led to the expansion of the American West across the lands between the Mississippi River and the Pacific Ocean. Disney's journey is one of the more stunning successes, but the same journey, from "Nature's Metropolis," (Chicago) to the capitol of "West Coast Capital" (L.A.) is one taken by many, many others from the 1870s through the present. A highway like Route 66 was inevitable. Dave Clark Windy City Road Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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