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Please forgive my ignorance....but where is 61? How far do you plan

 

on going?

 

 

 

Nicole

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "airfrogusmc" <abphoto7@c...>

 

wrote:

 

> Nicole,

 

>

 

> Though I enjoy many old stretches of two lane pavement I too am

 

> partial to the double 6's. I am starting to plan a 61 trip in the

 

> fall and everyone here has been very helpful. Welcome..

 

>

 

> Allen

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Hi out there there is a AP ARTICLE that was released in the we hours of the

 

morning about 130am.It was done by some one who was there wensday.I couldn't

 

Email it out but most lickly it will be out there all weekend.I fould it in the

 

Pentagraph go to pentagraph.com it was under top stories.One thing Like

 

Michale says in his book ROUTE 66 IS EVER CHANGING.My thank go out the the

 

BEELER FAMILY for all that thay have done for the ROAD AND THE Illinois ASSN

 

AND HOSTING THE HALL OF FAME.Jeff Meyer The Original Roadologist &One of the

 

PROUD COFOUNDER OF THE ROUTE 66 ASSN OF ILLINOIS.

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Hi every one, late last night about 1am AP relesed a article on the Dixie it

 

was done wensday.I fould it on the Pantagraph web site (pantagraph.com)I could

 

not mail it ok becuse it was a AP article I think.So look for this it should

 

show up latter today and over the weekend.Also I would like to thank to beeler

 

family for all thay have done for route66 and the Route66 Assn of Illinois and

 

hosting the Hall Of Fame.Thanks Jeff Meyer THE ORIGINAL ROADOLOGIST & One of

 

the CO FUNDERS of the Route 66 Association of Illinois.

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You can see the article at Newsday.com

 

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/.. Scroll down to Family Sells

 

Famous Route 66 Truck Stop.

 

 

 

The direct link to the article is:

 

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wi...-stop,0,7613011.

 

story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

 

 

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

 

From: rt66roadologist@comcast.net

 

To: route66 ; ill66 ; AMERICAN ROAD

 

Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:15 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] DIXIE CLOSING AP ARTICAL

 

 

 

 

 

Hi every one, late last night about 1am AP relesed a article on the Dixie it

 

was done wensday.I fould it on the Pantagraph web site (pantagraph.com)I could

 

not mail it ok becuse it was a AP article I think.So look for this it should

 

show up latter today and over the weekend.Also I would like to thank to beeler

 

family for all thay have done for route66 and the Route66 Assn of Illinois and

 

hosting the Hall Of Fame.Thanks Jeff Meyer THE ORIGINAL ROADOLOGIST & One of

 

the CO FUNDERS of the Route 66 Association of Illinois.

 

 

 

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Nichole,

 

 

 

61's Northern starting point is Forest Lake, Minn and its southern

 

point is New Orleans. I'm still planning the trip so I haven't

 

figured out if I'm starting in Minn or farther south. Time is a big

 

deciding factor.

 

 

 

If you haven't already check out some of my images fro the road that

 

I dropped in a folder marked Allen More Stuff in the photo section.

 

I'm sure I will find lots of interesting subject matter on the 61

 

trip.

 

 

 

Allen

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Here is another article that everyone might find interesting. This one is from

 

Preservation Online at

 

http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/

 

 

 

Here is a quote from the article:

 

"Earlier this month, a colorful 36-foot RV completed a 66-day journey on

 

2,448-mile-long Route 66—from California to Chicago and back. "

 

 

 

You can read the complete article at

 

http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/news/index.htm

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Nicole

Hi Allen-

 

 

 

I'll bet you'll find a lot of interesting things too along the way. It's those

 

geographical areas I don't take for granted anymore, that I would now appreciate

 

to travel and explore in. I am from the midwest (Michigan) and was always

 

fascinated with the west. I thought my "green" and lush surroundings along with

 

the flatland were the absolute worst. I longed for rock, brown, sand,

 

mountains, and exploring the west. I should not have been so hard on what the

 

midwest/east has to offer, because now that I am not there anymore......I miss

 

its beauty that I once seemed to overlook.

 

 

 

I now live where it can't get any more brown. I guess if that's what I

 

wanted.....I sure got it! We take off for the day and drive up Highway 68 into

 

Kingman just so we can go see green in the Hualapai Mountains! (Not to mention

 

that gives me a little time on Route 66!)

 

 

 

I am happier out west.....but I also learned something, and that is all the

 

roads, no matter where they are, are beautiful and have so much history, people,

 

and experiences to offer. I am no longer biased to just any scenic road in

 

Arizona and California.......I've learned to appreciate what the road has to

 

offer anywhere. I look forward to learning from people in this group of their

 

experiences all over the place on the road.

 

 

 

Nicole

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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FYI:Tim Steil journaled this drive on another (66) list & probably

 

published his book on this highway drive.

 

 

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole" <arizona66nms@y...> wrote:

 

> Please forgive my ignorance....but where is 61? How far do you plan

 

> on going?

 

>

 

> Nicole

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Actually, if you want to get a little technical about

 

the whole thing, U S 61 actually has it's origins, in

 

the north, in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada, and is

 

signed as Ontario 61.

 

 

 

Curiously, today between Duluth and the Canadian

 

border it is, in the 2003 Rand McNally atlas, signed

 

as MN 61, but MicroSoft Streets & Trips 2003 signs it

 

as U S 61.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- airfrogusmc <abphoto7@comcast.net> wrote:

 

> Nichole,

 

>

 

> 61's Northern starting point is Forest Lake, Minn

 

> and its southern

 

> point is New Orleans. I'm still planning the trip so

 

> I haven't

 

> figured out if I'm starting in Minn or farther

 

> south. Time is a big

 

> deciding factor.

 

>

 

> If you haven't already check out some of my images

 

> fro the road that

 

> I dropped in a folder marked Allen More Stuff in the

 

> photo section.

 

> I'm sure I will find lots of interesting subject

 

> matter on the 61

 

> trip.

 

>

 

> Allen

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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We would like to point you to the latest online develpoment on the

 

ongoing project between the Kansas State Historical Society and the

 

American Diner Museum's research of the Valentine Diner Co. of

 

Wichita, Ks. Click on the link below which should bring you to the

 

latest developments of out research. If you have any additional

 

information that you would like to share with us please email me.

 

 

 

Kansas State Historical Society

 

http://www.kshs.org/diners/index.htm

 

 

 

Thank You,

 

Gregg Anderson

 

ganderson@americandinermuseum.org

 

American Diner Museum

 

www.americandinermuseum.org

 

 

 

Kansas State Historical Society

 

http://www.kshs.org/diners/index.htm

 

 

 

A local company built some of the most unusual metal diners, and

 

experts hope Wichitans have more information about them.

 

 

 

By Beccy Tanner

 

The Wichita Eagle

 

 

 

Wichita-made eateries have fans all over

 

"Uncle Bob" Hatter was having the chicken noodle special by himself

 

in a booth. Walt Muller was sitting on a counter stool, glancing at

 

the morning paper, carrying on about an article that said the

 

electric company wants to pass tree-trimming costs on to Wichita

 

customers.

 

 

 

Parents with small children ate alongside elderly folks who had come

 

in for a quick bite.

 

 

 

During the Friday noon rush, about 70 customers crowded into Brint's

 

Diner, a tiny metal building at Lincoln and Oliver.

 

 

 

For nearly three decades, that building and thousands of other all-

 

metal diners were mass-produced by Valentine Manufacturing in

 

Wichita. Brint's is one of the last Valentine diners remaining and

 

operating as a diner in Wichita.

 

 

 

Valentine diners are among the more unusual diners, said Gregg

 

Anderson, spokesman for the American Diner Museum in Providence, R.I.

 

 

 

"This is a piece of the working man's history," he said. "They are

 

community gathering places. What happens at them today is the same

 

thing that happened when they were first built. You go to these

 

diners to get the news of the day and have a great meal."

 

 

 

The museum -- in conjunction with the Kansas State Historical Society

 

in Topeka -- is looking for former employees of Valentine

 

Manufacturing and of Valentine diners to gather information for a

 

traveling exhibit still in the planning stages.

 

 

 

"We care about diners manufactured everywhere," Anderson said. "But

 

several museums and historical societies have acquired these

 

Valentine diners, and we want to make the exhibit available to them

 

for use as a fund-raising tool to restore diners."

 

 

 

From 1938 to 1971, more than 2,000 Valentine diner units were

 

manufactured and sold to buyers in every state but Washington.

 

 

 

The company's founder was Arthur H. Valentine, a Wichita restaurant

 

owner and promoter. He operated a hamburger stand until he came up

 

with the idea to start manufacturing six-stool diners.

 

 

 

In 1938, he opened his plant and employed six people at 1446 N.

 

Barwise Ave.

 

 

 

The most popular model of diner was the Little Chef, a 10-stool

 

restaurant that retailed for $3,300. Potential buyers simply had to

 

find a spot of land to put it on, build a foundation and hook up

 

utilities.

 

 

 

When Valentine died in 1953, the company went through a series of

 

owners before it was purchased in 1959 by Byron and Robert Radcliff.

 

 

 

They kept the Valentine name but moved the company to 1020 S. McComas

 

Ave. and expanded it to include ice cream stores, liquor stores,

 

portable dry-cleaning stations, ticket booths for turnpikes, and

 

buildings for used-car lots and filling stations.

 

 

 

By the 1960s, the old six- to 10-seat diners had been expanded to

 

seat about 40 people.

 

 

 

Anderson said what fascinates him most about the Valentines is how

 

small they were in comparison with East Coast diners.

 

 

 

"They could go in between buildings, on corners, almost anywhere," he

 

said.

 

 

 

Blair Tarr, curator of decorative arts for the Kansas State

 

Historical Society, said Valentine diners are one of the most asked-

 

about pieces of Kansas architecture. There is a replica of a

 

Valentine diner in the society's museum in Topeka.

 

 

 

The Historical Society hopes to document where the diners are now and

 

how long they have been at their locations.

 

 

 

"We think a lot of these diners ended up in small farm towns where

 

the locals met to eat," Tarr said. "And that by now, people may not

 

realize they even have a Valentine diner."

 

 

 

Other Valentine buildings that still exist in Wichita include the

 

Dyne-Quik at 1202 N. Broadway Ave., the former Such-A-Burger at 134

 

Hillside Ave. and Taco Nacho at 1227 S. Seneca St.

 

 

 

Brint's Diner has been at the corner of Lincoln and Oliver since

 

1960. It's a modified double-deluxe diner that seats 70 people.

 

 

 

Danny Dean has owned the diner with his wife, Tania, for the past

 

three years. He says the success of the diner has been, and still is,

 

high-quality food, low prices and good employees.

 

 

 

"The diner is like a family reunion every day," he said.

 

 

 

Bob Hatter agrees.

 

 

 

"I started coming here about two years ago. My favorite is their pork

 

chops," he said.

 

 

 

"But they are always real friendly. You can sit down and enjoy your

 

meal.... I bring my kids here on the weekends."

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Guest tim steil

hey kevin

 

 

 

thanks for the PR

 

 

 

i already sent allen and nicole a note

 

 

 

for the rest of the folks....there is info at timsteil.com...under "take a

 

trip"

 

 

 

thanks

 

 

 

tim

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: cuon66 <oldroad@sbcglobal.net>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:15 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: For Allen/US 61

 

 

 

 

 

> FYI:Tim Steil journaled this drive on another (66) list & probably

 

> published his book on this highway drive.

 

>

 

> Kevin

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Nicole" <arizona66nms@y...> wrote:

 

> > Please forgive my ignorance....but where is 61? How far do you plan

 

> > on going?

 

> >

 

> > Nicole

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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Kip,

 

 

 

Thanks, I'm going to need all the help I can get so its all

 

appreciated. If anyone know of a guide book or any other reading

 

material that might help me retrace old two lane pavement plus all

 

the personal experience and advise is much appreciated.

 

 

 

Thnaks to all,

 

Allen

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Kip,

 

 

 

William McKean's book, "Highway 61" is available

 

thru www.amazon.com -

 

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-h...5740118-9039104

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

--- Rudyard Welborn <r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net>

 

wrote:

 

> Tims site is probably the best "guide"...I dont

 

> think that there are any

 

> "guides" published for 61 right now (except McKeen's

 

> book)--if anyone knows

 

> of one, I would love to see it! When you get down

 

> to the Delta of

 

> Mississippi there is a book called "Blues

 

> Travelling" that is well worth

 

> securing...Tsingtao, Kip

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: "airfrogusmc" <abphoto7@comcast.net>

 

> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:35 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: For Allen/US 61

 

>

 

>

 

> > Kip,

 

> >

 

> > Thanks, I'm going to need all the help I can get

 

> so its all

 

> > appreciated. If anyone know of a guide book or any

 

> other reading

 

> > material that might help me retrace old two lane

 

> pavement plus all

 

> > the personal experience and advise is much

 

> appreciated.

 

> >

 

> > Thnaks to all,

 

> > Allen

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

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Thanks guys,

 

 

 

That will be a definate read. I was bidding on a 1931 road atlas but

 

lost it. Is most of the old road still driveable?

 

 

 

Allen

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> WOrthy of note, in the north the original 61 paralelled I-35 (it is 261 or

 

> 361 to Duluth...then it followed the North Shore to the canadian border

 

> (that road is now SR 61)...until Tim's book is out, William McKeen's book

 

> "Highway 61"is a pretty good travelogue of the Blues Highway...Tsingtao,

 

Kip

 

 

 

hey Kip and all:

 

 

 

fyi....that piece of cheese MBI plans to publish is not really a turn by

 

turn guide....as I explained to Jim Ross in an off list email...its more of

 

a lot of "guy finds guitar player in bar on highway 61, shoots the breeze

 

for a while, repeat" sort of affair.

 

 

 

it aso features a photo of the MO/AR border arch by some guy

 

named...um...Kip something or another

 

 

 

tim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

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> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:39 PM

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: For Allen/US 61

 

>

 

>

 

> > Nichole,

 

> >

 

> > 61's Northern starting point is Forest Lake, Minn and its southern

 

> > point is New Orleans. I'm still planning the trip so I haven't

 

> > figured out if I'm starting in Minn or farther south. Time is a big

 

> > deciding factor.

 

> >

 

> > If you haven't already check out some of my images fro the road that

 

> > I dropped in a folder marked Allen More Stuff in the photo section.

 

> > I'm sure I will find lots of interesting subject matter on the 61

 

> > trip.

 

> >

 

> > Allen

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

> >

 

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The American Diner Museum is ready to serve you, 24 hours a day. You can buy one

 

if you want, or just find one near you. But most important, you can finally

 

understand what they're saying to the folk behind the window when you order your

 

eggs and hash.

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Guest alfozon66

Shellee,

 

 

 

Great to hear that you will be in Kansas City. I look forward to

 

seeing your exhibit, perhaps even coming by to see you speak.

 

 

 

Larry Kinsey

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham <SHELLEE66@E...>

 

wrote:

 

> September 30, 2003

 

>

 

> Howdy folks,

 

>

 

> Just wanted to let you know that my touring photo exhibit "RETURN

 

TO ROUTE

 

> 66:

 

> Photographs from the Mother Road," will be in Kansas City, Missouri

 

from

 

> October 19 - December 7, 2003.

 

>

 

> I will also be doing a talk there on Saturday, October 25th. (I'll

 

be

 

> nervous

 

> enough so don't worry about making the talk ;) - No, it will be a

 

nice slide

 

> show of many Route 66 images, some in the show, some not.).

 

>

 

> Here's the schedule for the next 15 months, hopefully, it will be

 

in your

 

> "hood." If not, please consider a lovely 2-lane roadtrip to get

 

there...

 

> Hehe.

 

>

 

> Thanks and regards,

 

>

 

> Shellee Graham

 

> (that Coral Court Motel gal :)

 

> http://www.smithkramer.com/route66.html

 

>

 

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

 

-----

 

> "RETURN TO ROUTE 66: Photographs from the Mother Road" by Shellee

 

Graham

 

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

 

-----

 

> * 70 color and b/w photographs with accompanying text

 

> * (Updated with newer photos and text on March 2003)

 

>

 

> October 19 - December 7, 2003

 

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Hi Larry,

 

 

 

Thanks for your message. I goofed up on the day of the talk in KC. The talk

 

will be on Sunday, Oct. 26th at 3 pm. (I'm just not together yet, still

 

fighting a cold in the 2nd week...)

 

 

 

Hope you'll be able to catch the exhibit until December 7th. I'll double

 

check on the dates too. Hehe. It couldn't hurt.

 

 

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

 

 

Shellee G.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on 10/1/03 6:23 AM, alfozon66 at alf@mia.net wrote:

 

 

 

> Shellee,

 

>

 

> Great to hear that you will be in Kansas City. I look forward to

 

> seeing your exhibit, perhaps even coming by to see you speak.

 

>

 

> Larry Kinsey

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham <SHELLEE66@E...>

 

> wrote:

 

>> September 30, 2003

 

>>

 

>> Howdy folks,

 

>>

 

>> Just wanted to let you know that my touring photo exhibit "RETURN

 

> TO ROUTE

 

>> 66:

 

>> Photographs from the Mother Road," will be in Kansas City, Missouri

 

> from

 

>> October 19 - December 7, 2003.

 

>>

 

>> I will also be doing a talk there on Saturday, October 25th. (I'll

 

> be

 

>> nervous

 

>> enough so don't worry about making the talk ;) - No, it will be a

 

> nice slide

 

>> show of many Route 66 images, some in the show, some not.).

 

>>

 

>> Here's the schedule for the next 15 months, hopefully, it will be

 

> in your

 

>> "hood." If not, please consider a lovely 2-lane roadtrip to get

 

> there...

 

>> Hehe.

 

>>

 

>> Thanks and regards,

 

>>

 

>> Shellee Graham

 

>> (that Coral Court Motel gal :)

 

>> http://www.smithkramer.com/route66.html

 

>>

 

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------

 

> -----

 

>> "RETURN TO ROUTE 66: Photographs from the Mother Road" by Shellee

 

> Graham

 

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------

 

> -----

 

>> * 70 color and b/w photographs with accompanying text

 

>> * (Updated with newer photos and text on March 2003)

 

>>

 

>> October 19 - December 7, 2003

 

>> KANSAS CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY

 

>> Kansas City, Missouri

 

>>

 

>> January 4 - February 22, 2004

 

>> BOOTH WESTERN ART MUSEUM

 

>> Cartersville, Georgia

 

>>

 

>>> March 21 - May 9, 2004

 

>>> (Open Date)

 

>>

 

>> June 6 - July 25, 2004

 

>> MUSCATINE ART CENTER

 

>> Muscatine, Iowa

 

>>

 

>> August 22 - October 10, 2004

 

>> EDMOND HISTORICAL SOCIETY

 

>> Edmond, Oklahoma

 

>> ---------------------------------------------------------

 

>> For more dates in 2005 -- 2006, check the

 

>> http://www.smithkramer.com/route66.html website

 

>> -----------------------------------------------

 

>> Smith Kramer Fine Art Services, Kansas City, MO

 

>> Toll Free: (800) 222-7522

 

>> email: skexhibit@s...

 

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Guest bakerhab2003

This message is for anyone who will be in the vicinity of the Goffs

 

Schoolhouse (Route 66 1926-1931 alignment) on the first weekend of

 

any month from October, 2003 through June, 2004. You are invited to

 

visit, or if you would like to spend the entire weekend and learn

 

about the museum and cultural center, I would be happy to train you

 

as a docent and provide lodging. Let me know. We are also, always

 

looking for sojourners, people who would like to stay with us a

 

little longer. For information on sojourner opportunities visit our

 

website. www.MDHCA.org. Thanks, Helen Baker

 

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

From Helen Baker - Open House Coordinator - Goffs Schoolhouse

 

 

 

Now that the heat of summer has passed or at least mostly, and we're

 

entering our lovely fall season, it's time to think about a little R

 

& R on the Island of Goffs.

 

 

 

This weekend, October 4-5, we will resume our, first weekend of the

 

month, October through June, open house schedule.

 

 

 

I have ample volunteer opportunities for all abilities. Greeters at

 

the schoolhouse are especially welcome. For those who prefer some

 

other type of work, there are plenty of projects available throughout

 

the grounds this weekend, as we are getting the property ready for

 

our 24th. Annual Mojave Road Rendezvous on October 10-13.

 

 

 

Please consider joining our growing volunteer ranks of open house

 

veterans.

 

 

 

As an added incentive to come out this weekend, you will be among the

 

first to observe the newest additions to our open house bookbag of

 

tools. I can't tell you what they are, since I don't know myself,

 

but at, on, about, or approximately 8:30 AM on Saturday, Bill

 

Fullerton is going to deliver some items, numbering twelve in all,

 

to, as he told me, "make your operation appear more Professional.

 

Sorta. Maybe. Perhaps. Well, a little bit at least. Hey it could

 

happen."

 

 

 

Having seen the quality of the work that Bill has done over the years

 

at Goffs, I have no doubt that he's right, well sorta, maybe,

 

perhaps, and that we are in for a treat, or is it a trick? You will

 

only know if you are there at the appointed hour.

 

 

 

Speaking of Bill's work, he just provided the schoolhouse with a

 

beautiful oak cabinet to house the date nail collection and he

 

created a custom made tool rack for the cookhouse.

 

 

 

I am hoping that this fall will bring new volunteers to the

 

schoolhouse, so that no one person or couple is overwhelmed by the

 

open house schedule. I believe that each person that has helped so

 

far has enjoyed the opportunity of sharing their love of Goffs with

 

our visitors.

 

 

 

If any of you are planning to come to Goffs this weekend, would you

 

please let us know. Call me at home on 818-705-3930 or email me at

 

bakerhab@a..., or after Thursday afternoon, call my cell phone 818-

 

667-3494, or send an email to Jo Ann at goffs@e... or call

 

her on 760-733-4482. (Whew!) We'll also be resuming our tradition of

 

having a potluck dinner on Saturday night. These impromptu

 

debriefing sessions have brought forth many new ideas for how to

 

better serve the visiting public. So while it would appear that

 

we're just kicking back and shooting the breeze, we're actually still

 

producing, or as Bill would say, well, sorta, maybe, perhaps.

 

Remember one of the most exciting things about this dinner is that we

 

don't coordinate the meal until that day, so this could just be our

 

weekend to have all desserts, or not.

 

 

 

I've said this before, but it is worth repeating, because it is a key

 

element to our open house success; for those of you who would like to

 

volunteer, but don't feel that you know enough about the schoolhouse

 

or the artifacts, don't worry! With the booklet, Guide to the Goffs

 

Cultural Center, it really is easy. You just need to welcome the

 

visitors, have them sign the log book and then you can send them on

 

their way about the schoolroom and the grounds, with the guide book.

 

 

 

Of course you should try to answer any questions, if you can, and if

 

there is a particular area or topic that you are more comfortable

 

with, you could talk about that aspect of the center. See, it really

 

is easy, you merely need to talk about what you know and like about

 

Goffs, and you'll be fine. Remember, most of these folks have never

 

been to the schoolhouse before, so try to imagine what it was like

 

for you the first time that you visited, and go from there. You'll

 

be surprised at how many easy questions the visitors will ask. For

 

example, most visitors want to know how you got involved with the

 

Association and the schoolhouse, and I know that you all have a story

 

to tell about that!

 

 

 

As I mentioned earlier, there is much ongoing work around the

 

property. Working on these projects during an the open house

 

weekend, allows volunteers, who are more comfortable laboring around

 

the grounds, rather than greeting visitors, the opportunity to help

 

complete, or begin, something, on the seemingly, never ending and

 

always growing, 'projects in que' list. This type of activity has

 

turned out to have an unexpected value for three reasons. One, it

 

shows the visitors that Goffs is actually a living, working and

 

growing museum, two, it provides for additional security around the

 

property, and three, it has helped us complete an unusually large

 

number of projects already this year. Just be prepared to have a few

 

sidewalk superintendents, who nevertheless, will marvel at everything

 

that has been accomplished on the property in the last thirteen

 

years. Many of our new subscribers have come from these open house

 

visitors, so be sure to tell them how much fun you're having digging

 

holes and pouring concrete.

 

 

 

Whether it's this weekend or another weekend before the open house

 

season ends on June 6, 2004, please consider coming out and

 

volunteering. You'll be glad that you did, I promise.

 

 

 

Give us a call or send an email and join in the fun.

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

Open House Coordinator

 

Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center

 

Open the first weekend of the month

 

October through June

 

9 AM to 5 PM

 

818-705-3930 (home)

 

818-667-3494 (cell)

 

bakerhab@a...

 

 

 

P.S. The Goffs Schoolhouse Exhibit at the San Bernardino Route 66

 

Rendezvous was a rousing success. Look for the story, tentatively

 

titled, Part 1 - "An Odyssey of an Exhibit" and Part 2 - "Car

 

Enthusiasts Meet History Head On," coming to a Mojave Road Report

 

near you soon!

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Evening folks! Since the list seems to be a little quiet, I thought

 

I'd note our weekend cruise.

 

 

 

A couple of weeks back at the Route 66 Fest in Springfield, IL, we

 

had the chance to see Herman's Hermits at the sock hop. We also saw

 

Herman himself, Peter Noone, in front of the hotel earlier that day.

 

After they played that night, Jennifer & Amber went out to have him

 

sign a t-shirt. Much to their surprise, he told Amber, "I remember

 

you...you were hanging out in front of the hotel earlier with your

 

folks. I've got a good memory!" Well, when he said that, we instantly

 

became "Noonatics". So we took the opportunity this weekend to see

 

them play again at the Paramount Theatre in Aurora, IL. After the

 

show, we took Amber's t-shirt to him to sign again to see how good

 

his memory really was. Well, he didn't say he remembered, but he

 

talked with us for a minute about the Springfield show & how sick he

 

& "the lads" were that night and how much better last night's show

 

was. This guy is great to his fans. He knows what they want to hear

 

when they come to his show & he doesn't disappoint. If the Hermits

 

are ever in your area, by all means see the show. Once again, they

 

were the best of the three acts there last night (The Grass Roots and

 

Gary Puckett were the others).

 

 

 

OK, what's the road trip content of this note? Well, we traversed a

 

wide range of highways to & fro Aurora. We managed six US highways

 

(52, 41, 24, 45, 30, 34), countless state highways, and unfortunately

 

a couple of super slabs. The Arctic blast of cold weather entering

 

the midwest greeted us last night after the show, as temps dropped to

 

the mid-30's in the Chicago area. It didn't get much warmer today as

 

it reached only 50-ish between Chicago and Indy. Tonight's forecasted

 

low is (yikes!) 30! But it was a fun, short weekend. Not much to

 

report from the highways other than some good fall colors coming into

 

play here in the midwest. That's it from here folks...

 

 

 

Pat in Speedway

 

http://theroadmaven.com

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One of Route 66's most colorful characters, Larry Baggett of Jerome,

 

Mo., died this spring. I verified his death just a few days ago, but

 

it was obvious for some time he had passed away or had been put in a

 

nursing home. A "For Sale" sign had been placed on his property in the

 

late summer, and Ed Goodridge of Vernelle's Motel up the road had

 

heard that he had died.

 

 

 

Route 66ers may not know the name Larry Baggett, but you probably have

 

seen his work. He lived behind his stone-and-concrete "Trail of Tears"

 

archway and sculptures. This was just a few hundred feet west of the

 

Jerome I-44 exit on Route 66 and mere feet from the ruins of the

 

Stonydell swimming pool complex.

 

 

 

The first time Emily and I encountered Mr. Baggett was about a year

 

and a half ago. We drove up the steep gravel lane, admiring the

 

sculptures, and circled around the front in an effort to get back on

 

the road. A red-haired dog barked at us the whole time. I was about to

 

go back down the lane when I saw a white-haired, robust-looking man

 

waving. I rolled down the window, and he yelled affably, "Where you

 

goin' in such a hurry?"

 

 

 

He invited us into his house. We were there for the next three hours.

 

 

 

As he guided us in, he showed us an enormous, fully enclosed hot tub he

 

built. Then stepping inside, Emily and I suddenly knew that we had

 

stumbled upon an eccentric genius. The walls were trimmed with cedar

 

wood. The ceiling was covered with leather. The floor had been laid

 

with native stone and concrete. Larry even used a tree as part of a

 

load-bearing wall in the house.

 

 

 

Larry later explained that he bought the property to build a campground

 

as a future source of income for his wife. Larry, a former Sears &

 

Roebuck employee, had two heart attacks and severe diabetes when he was

 

in his 40s. He figured he wasn't going to live much longer, and he

 

wanted fashion a way for his wife to care for herself.

 

 

 

It turned out that Larry outlived his wife and stuck around for more

 

than 30 years. He credited his improved health to Jerusalem artichoke,

 

honey and cider vinegar. (We later saw his beehives on the far west

 

end of the property.) Larry also indicated he went on a vegan diet,

 

which no doubt also improved his health.

 

 

 

Larry was a homespun mystic. He studied under a noted psychic, attended

 

seminary for a while, and studied the Bible and astrology. He talked

 

about spirits, witches and astral travel as casually as a farmer would

 

talk about his crops.

 

 

 

Born in Tennessee, his father and brothers were Ozarks craftsmen -- an

 

ingrained skill that obviously came in handy with his construction

 

techniques and sculpting.

 

 

 

Larry said the Cherokee Trail of Tears went through his property, thus

 

the tribute at the entrance. When he built his house, he heard a

 

knocking on his front door almost every night. When he opened the door,

 

no one was there. He was certain it wasn't a prankster because he owned

 

a dog that barked at anything that moved, but the canine remained

 

silent.

 

 

 

Later, Larry ran into an old Cherokee, and he explained his knocking

 

problem. Noting a retaining wall near his house, the Indian said that

 

the spirits walking on the Trail of Tears were having trouble getting

 

over the wall. If Larry would build steps that would allow the spirits

 

to go over the wall, he said, the knocking would stop. Larry built the

 

steps, and the knockings halted.

 

 

 

We went back to visit Larry again less than a year later, and we were

 

shocked by his appearance. His once-stout frame had become emaciated,

 

and his feet had swollen and oozed sores -- grave signs that his

 

diabetes had returned. He later told us that he had learned that

 

Russians who lived to their 120s ate meat extensively, and he decided

 

to emulate their diets. (We found out later that Larry had died of

 

cancer; I think in his final days he wanted to enjoy that foods he had

 

given up decades before.)

 

 

 

Although he was obviously weak, Larry continued to regale us with his

 

tales. Larry hardly left his easy chair the entire time, and when we

 

bid adieu, we had the feeling this would be our last meeting.

 

Unfornately, we were right.

 

 

 

Last week, we explored Baggett's property. Even though there are a few

 

leaks in the roof, it's amazing how well-built and conceived the house

 

is. There is an entire second floor that would be ideal for bed-and-

 

breakfast lodgings, and that big hot tub and a nearby grill that Larry

 

built from odds and ends certainly would be enticing. There is a third

 

level to which there is no access (apparently Larry took ill and wasn't

 

able to finish stairs to it). But it looks like he was building a

 

greenhouse and pigeon roost. And, of course, there are all the

 

sculptures. Using the nearby spring that fed Stonydell, there is a

 

sculpture of a man who endlessly pours water from his bucket. Nearby is

 

a sculpture of Larry, waving to travelers passing on Route 66.

 

 

 

Larry's place sits on 30 acres -- a lot of it on a bluff -- about 15

 

miles west of Rolla. The asking price is $105,000, but given the fact

 

the housing market there is slow and the house needs some repairs, I

 

would try to negotiate the price lower. Call Cindy Butler of Realty

 

Executives at 573-308-4663.

 

 

 

If I were a B&B entrepreneur and had a bit more money, I would jump at

 

the chance to own this utterly unique Route 66 property. Maybe other

 

folks on this list have the chance; I would hate to see this fantastic

 

place die from neglect.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Belleville, IL

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Hi Nicole!

 

 

 

I'm thinkin' the full moon nights next July. Most wonderful at the

 

falls around midnight. Indeed. Plus, not hardly a need for a

 

flashlight while walking there in the rays.

 

 

 

Yep!, July is hot, but not knowing if you've ever swam under the

 

Havasu Falls yet, the hot weather will be immediately be squashed by

 

the cool creek at any time you choose. Right? Of course, ANY hike

 

into or out of the canyon should commence at the first break of dawn,

 

to be sensible. No prob! Good thing that the horses and helicopters

 

leave later in the mornin'.

 

Q:)

 

Just wish the HavaSupai would allow me to bring 66Thumper someday.

 

One never knows,... wishes and dreams DO come true.

 

 

 

God Bless.

 

 

 

Ken

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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wrote:

 

> Hi Ken-

 

>

 

> As far as dates go.....I personally don't know yet. I guess I did

 

ask that question a little too soon. I'm going through a job change

 

(Thank God, and FINALLY).......we'll see what happens in the next few

 

months and I may have a better grasp on what I can get away with.

 

I'm going to be dealing cards in Laughlin! A total change, but a

 

change I need so badly, and it's going to be so much fun! (Not to

 

mention the change in income too!)

 

>

 

> Please post of any new info (like I know you will Ken). Another

 

question for you......July is obviously one of the hotter months in

 

the Canyon, I wonder if it may be too risky to hike in due to the

 

heat that time of year?? What do you think? I guess as long as I

 

get going real early in the morning I should be ok, huh?

 

>

 

> And yes.....we must have some "coffee talk" bright and early at the

 

Falls in July! I look soooo forward to it! Now that's living life!

 

>

 

> Also.....I was on a site (through google.com) that a guy set up

 

telling about his hike to the falls....and the pictures I saw of

 

Mooney Falls, with the chains and such, how awesome!! I'd do that in

 

a heartbeat! That was the first time I'd actually seen pics of that,

 

I've just heard about it and had a visual in my head of what it was

 

like. I don't know if I can wait until July.....this wait is killing

 

me already!

 

>

 

> Nicole

 

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Hi Helen!

 

 

 

I can't believe Amboy is finally sold! Please keep us informed on the

 

happenings......and do you have any info on the new owner?? This is going to be

 

interesting!

 

 

 

Nicole

 

 

 

Bakerhab@aol.com wrote:

 

It looks like Amboy has been sold. I can't wait to meet our new neighbors.

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

Goffs Schoolhouse Museum

 

Open House Coordinator

 

 

 

 

 

LA TIMES

 

>

 

>

 

> 30 November 2003

 

>

 

> THE STATE

 

> Desert Burg Looking Like a Hot Property Again

 

> [unable to display image]The once-rollicking Route 66 town, later bypassed by

 

the interstate, may be

 

> sold, five years after two men bought the whole thing.

 

>

 

> By Louis Sahagun, Times Staff Writer

 

>

 

> AMBOY, Calif. (Pop. 7) aˆ” It's the quintessential tiny desert town half

 

> pitched to nowhere on legendary Route 66, and it's about to be sold. Again.

 

>

 

> The 690-acre real estate package includes the 150-acre town, a 1940s-style

 

> cafe, four operational gas pumps, a post office, a church, 28 motel rooms,

 

> public restrooms and two dirt runways, all framed by stark volcanic mountain

 

> ranges and barren vistas about 150 miles east of Los Angeles.

 

>

 

> After a year and a half on the market, the whole thing may go for roughly

 

> $1,395,000, according to Rob McManus, estate director for Dilbeck Realtors,

 

who

 

> is brokering the deal for the town owned by celebrity photographer Timothy

 

> White and his business partner, Walt Wilson.

 

>

 

> White and Wilson, who bought the San Bernardino County burg for an

 

> undisclosed amount five years ago, originally listed it in July at $1.9

 

million.

 

>

 

> But top bids failed to break the million-dollar mark aˆ” perhaps, McManus

 

> said, because the nation went to war in the middle of a marketing campaign

 

that

 

> featured advertising brochures, magazine articles, newspaper listings and an

 

> EBay online auction.

 

>

 

> Prospects brightened this month with the arrival of separate offers by

 

> Californians who say they want to preserve the town that McManus described as

 

"a

 

> charming relic, straight out of the 1940s and in good working condition."

 

>

 

> "I'm not allowed to reveal much information about the negotiations, other

 

> than that the terms and conditions should work," he said. "But it's going to

 

be

 

> interesting drawing up an appropriate contract because there is no template

 

> for this kind of transaction."

 

>

 

> In a telephone interview from his New York studio, White said, "I'm very

 

> excited."

 

>

 

> "But while we're ready to move on and turn it over to another caretaker," he

 

> said, "it's kind of tough, because we're emotionally involved in this

 

> property. It's a very spiritual place, and a piece of American history."

 

>

 

> Founded by miners in 1858, Amboy blossomed into a rowdy 24-hour town of 500

 

> people when Route 66 was paved in the 1920s. The construction of Interstate

 

> 40 about 10 miles north in 1972, however, reduced traffic in the hamlet to a

 

> trickle. Amboy became a symbol of a bygone era and, as real estate agents like

 

> to say, "a town at the threshold of potential."

 

>

 

> These days, it survives as a tourist stop between Palm Springs and Las Vegas

 

> aˆ” a stretch of about 180 miles aˆ” and a popular locale for movies,

 

> commercials and photo shoots.

 

>

 

> White, 48, was on a motorcycle trip when he first saw Amboy.

 

>

 

> "I was captivated by the light, the location, the peeling paint, the

 

> stainless steel cafe interior, the old-fashioned gas pumps. It seemed as

 

though time

 

> had stopped in 1951," he recalled. "Then I noticed the 4-foot-by-5-foot

 

> hand-painted 'For Sale' sign. We didn't want anyone else to ruin the place, so

 

we

 

> bought it."

 

>

 

> "I feel real good about the new offers," he added, "because I think they are

 

> serious and their intentions are the same as ours. We didn't want it

 

> bastardized or modernized."

 

>

 

> Meanwhile, Wilson, 51, Amboy resident and the town's general manager, keeps

 

> busy fixing up his motel rooms and grilling hamburgers, hot dogs and BLTs at

 

> Roy's Cafe, a Route 66 landmark.

 

>

 

> "It doesn't get too lonely," he said. "After all, Las Vegas is not that far

 

> away."

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest cuon66

Yes. Amboy has been sold.

 

 

 

Boots has been sold. It's status is up in the air, it doesn't look

 

good. The Boots has not been discussed as much or as recent here.

 

 

 

Both of these are being actively discussed on the Route 66 yahoogroup

 

that some of you left months ago.

 

 

 

Frankly, any efforts to help save the Boots or any business on 66 or

 

other old roads is somewhat fragmented by not reading posts on both of

 

these & other lists.

 

 

 

It's time to put egos, hurt feelings & editoral differences aside &

 

all work to keep working together before we lose all these businesses

 

to razing & being replaced by corporate businesses.

 

 

 

BTW, nowhere on the main page for this yahoogroup does it state

 

anything about preservation. Pretty much states:

 

 

 

" Here you can pull up a table and swap stories, history and facts

 

about America's great historic U.S. highways. On this list, you will

 

be in the company of many of the leading road historians, authors,

 

artists and photographers in the nation. Our journey is ongoing. And

 

you never know whom you might meet.

 

 

 

So join Executive Editor Thomas Repp..."

 

 

 

I rest my case,

 

 

 

Kevin

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Guest Nicole

Information can be found on either group.....and I find it much

 

easier to belong to just one. I prefer this group to the old for

 

more than one reason.....and there are many different ways to obtain

 

information we want or need. So Helen, or anyone else....please do

 

post of any Amboy information you may have in the future!

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Nicole

 

 

 

In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "cuon66" <oldroad@s...> wrote:

 

> Yes. Amboy has been sold.

 

>

 

> Boots has been sold. It's status is up in the air, it doesn't look

 

> good. The Boots has not been discussed as much or as recent here.

 

>

 

> Both of these are being actively discussed on the Route 66

 

yahoogroup

 

> that some of you left months ago.

 

>

 

> Frankly, any efforts to help save the Boots or any business on 66 or

 

> other old roads is somewhat fragmented by not reading posts on both

 

of

 

> these & other lists.

 

>

 

> It's time to put egos, hurt feelings & editoral differences aside &

 

> all work to keep working together before we lose all these

 

businesses

 

> to razing & being replaced by corporate businesses.

 

>

 

> BTW, nowhere on the main page for this yahoogroup does it state

 

> anything about preservation. Pretty much states:

 

>

 

> " Here you can pull up a table and swap stories, history and facts

 

> about America's great historic U.S. highways. On this list, you will

 

> be in the company of many of the leading road historians, authors,

 

> artists and photographers in the nation. Our journey is ongoing. And

 

> you never know whom you might meet.

 

>

 

> So join Executive Editor Thomas Repp..."

 

>

 

> I rest my case,

 

>

 

> Kevin

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