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Guest Alex

Hello Everyone,

 

 

 

I will be staying at the La Posada Hotel in Winslow, AZ for a few days

 

next month. Aside from the popular scenic attractions such as the

 

Meteor Crater, Painted Desert, and Petrified forest, are there any

 

other places in the area that you guys could recommend for vacation

 

enjoyment?

 

 

 

History, railroads, and "Americana" are favorite subjects of mine, so

 

any suggestions on where to go would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

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Guest brownwho63

Does anyone have any suggestion(s) for a blue highway route from St.

 

Louis to the Three Rivers, MI area? We did this same cruise a couple

 

of years ago and took 66 from STL to I-80 to Michigan City, IN. I-80

 

was terrible because of all the construction and we're looking for an

 

easier, more enjoyable cruise. Perhaps some "new" country that's not

 

too far out of the way. Thanks....Bliss

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Guest Alex Burr

How about U S 40 east to U S 45, north to U S 24, then

 

east to U S 31, turn north thru South Bend and on

 

north to U S 12 outside Buchanan and Niles - then east

 

to U S 131, turn north to Three Rivers.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

--- brownwho63 <brownwho63@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Does anyone have any suggestion(s) for a blue

 

> highway route from St.

 

> Louis to the Three Rivers, MI area? We did this

 

> same cruise a couple

 

> of years ago and took 66 from STL to I-80 to

 

> Michigan City, IN. I-80

 

> was terrible because of all the construction and

 

> we're looking for an

 

> easier, more enjoyable cruise. Perhaps some "new"

 

> country that's not

 

> too far out of the way. Thanks....Bliss

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Michael Durso

This may interest a few of you.. A scooter riding

 

friend of mine is traveling through out the east

 

-mainly east of the mississippi from canada to the

 

everglades by scooter.. follow it here:

 

 

 

http://www.pjchmiel.com/ramble/

 

 

 

be safe adn travel well,

 

Mike

 

 

 

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Guest Jim Vancura

As a byway leader associated with the Volcanic Legacy All American Road

 

(VLAAR), I would like to hear from folks who have traveled the VLAAR in

 

northern California and Southern Oregon.

 

 

 

Please let us know what your experience was like, what you strongly

 

liked about the route and what you disliked, what made you feel good,

 

and what made you feel unconfortable.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

 

 

Jim Vancura

 

(530) 397-7463

 

vancura@OreCalRCandD.org

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Guest Lester Duncan

Hi All,

 

 

 

This may be my first post, as I have been sitting in the pull out "on the side

 

of the road" watching you all go by. I have been collecting clips from this

 

site for future road trips. People miss so much traveling the new fast road

 

systems. We must stop and taste the Real Great American Life through the roads

 

of the past generations.

 

 

 

The reason for this post is that I am looking for information for myself and a

 

friend who is looking on re-tracing Route 66, yet starting in Florida this

 

summer. We are both old car enthusiasts and would like any older car

 

(junkyards) pastures along the way.

 

 

 

To keep our archives from filling with nonrelated trivia, you may want to reply

 

directly at:

 

lpduncan@yahoo.com

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Les & Pat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Blab-away for as little as 1?/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo!

 

Messenger with Voice.

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Guest beckyrepp

What a sad day! I'm going to try to dig up the pictures that I took. . .

 

 

 

Becky

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Guest Denny Gibson

On the very next message after my dumb joke about searching for 68 and

 

getting lots of hits because of the Mock Turtle Press box number, I see that

 

the address has changed. It looks like that change appeared in the egroup

 

message headers around the 24th making my joke even dumber. The messages now

 

give a closer to home Michigan address for subscriptions rather than the one

 

in Washington state. Since the P.O. Box is now 46519, I best avoid searching

 

for 19, too:-)

 

 

 

--Denny

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Guest Lulupic66@aol.com

Hi all, '

 

For those of you who are interested in RT 66, There is another yahoo group

 

that I belong to that is exclusivly RT 66 stuff. There are close to 1000 of us

 

on this group from people that live and try to exist along the highway and

 

those who are experts and don't live anywhere near the road.

 

If anbody wants to check it out the address is

 

GROUPS.YAHOO.COM/GROUP/ROUTE66/

 

Just thought I would pass the info along,

 

hope this helps,

 

Lulu

 

If this address doesn't work let me know and I will get you the correct

 

address

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Guest roaddog_rt66

Some news from Chicago.

 

 

 

We've had some articles from the Chicago Tribune in the last several

 

weeks dealing with these items of interest.

 

 

 

GIVE IT BACK

 

 

 

Somewhere, somehow, a famous painting has disappeared from Marshall

 

Field's, and the new owner wants it back. A Norman Rockwell

 

painting called the Clock Mender, featuring a repairman holding a

 

pocket watch on a ladder while setting the time on Field's massive

 

State Street clock, is missing.

 

 

 

Federated, the new owners who are changing the name to Macy's, wants

 

the former owners, Target, to return it right away. This painting

 

was on the November 3, 1945 cover of the Saturday Evening Post. The

 

painting was exhibited by Fields since 1948.

 

 

 

The Case of the Great Painting Caper!!!! I'd like to go online

 

right now to say that I don't have it.

 

 

 

 

 

WE'RE BACK

 

 

 

The Berghoff Cafe has quietly opened. This has replaced the

 

Berghoff which closed down for good after 100+ years on Adams St

 

this past February. The bar will be expanded, have a new name, and

 

will be opened in May.

 

 

 

The menu at the Berghoff Cafe is essentially the same and still will

 

feature favorites wiener schnitzel, sauerbraten, and

 

schlachtplatter. (schlachtplatter?)

 

 

 

It appears that the Berghoff is gone, but not really. There is

 

still no mention of that great sign which I heard will be taken

 

down. I hope not. There are fewer and fewer of these great old

 

signs. It would be a shame to lose it.

 

 

 

 

 

SAVE THAT OLD BUILDING

 

 

 

A movement is on to save Chicago's "other" signature domicile.

 

Everyone knows the place of the gloried bungalow, but what of that

 

intermediate housing unit between the bungalow and the mansion? I

 

refer to the greystone.

 

 

 

The Historic Chicago Greystone (also spelled Graystone) Initiative

 

has been organized with plans to start work in the somewhat blighted

 

North Lawndale area of Chicago. It will be modeled on the Historic

 

Chicago Bungalow Initiative, which has done such a great job with

 

those homes.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog

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Guest Lulupic66@aol.com

In a message dated 4/29/06 11:20:35 AM Central Daylight Time,

 

roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com writes:

 

 

 

 

 

> The Berghoff Cafe has quietly opened. This has replaced the

 

> Berghoff which closed down for good after 100+ years on Adams St

 

> this past February. The bar will be expanded, have a new name, and

 

> will be opened in May.

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

The place has indeed reopened. The busboys are still the same but all the

 

servers have changed. In an article in the Chicago Suntimes it was reported

 

that the old waiters all are new. Seems the old waiters were all "union" The new

 

waiters are not.

 

I think it was a ploy to 'bust the union"

 

just an observation

 

 

 

Lulu

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Guest beckyrepp

Perfect - thanks Bruce. We'll get our web designer going with your

 

reciprocal link!

 

 

 

Anyone else interested in reciprocal links to

 

americanroadmagazine.com, please let me know.

 

 

 

Best,

 

Becky

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, bwcdc99@... wrote:

 

>

 

> _Click here: Clark's Travel Center on Historic Route 99, "Main

 

Street of

 

> California"_ (http://www.clarkstravelcenter.com/links.html)

 

>

 

> HI BECKY

 

> YOUR # I ON THE LINKS

 

> HAVE A SUPER WEEKEND

 

> BRUCE

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Hi all...We're staying in Chesterfield, MO this Friday. Is there a reference

 

that anyone knows of that might show what the alignment of US 40 used to be

 

through there? I'm trying to figure out if this particular hotel is on a

 

former alignment. I thought I remember reading somewhere a while back something

 

showing US 40 alignments through the St. Louis area. Thanks much!

 

 

 

Pat B.

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Guest Denny Gibson

Seems you really have a knack for finding camels. I believe that I was

 

totally unaware of the camel statue in Lexington before you mentioned it and

 

I'm pretty sure I've never seen a one grazing in Georgia. I'm really

 

disappointed that Wildman's wasn't open. I'd really like to know what sort

 

of "CIVIL WAR SURPLUS" is available in 2006.

 

 

 

Looked like a good trip,

 

Denny

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net]

 

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:43 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Dixie Dreamin'--The Great Locomotive Chase--Day 3

 

 

 

 

 

Strictly speaking, this part has nothing to do with the Great

 

Locomotive Chase, since we were already south of Kennesaw (formerly

 

Big Shanty) where the General was stolen. But after all, the

 

General's run did start in Atlanta:)

 

 

 

<<<snip>>>

 

 

 

We finally did get to Hampton, but we're pretty sure it was the

 

wrong way:( We took some pictures of the depot and adjacent park

 

<Hampton 01-04>, then decided we'd better call it quits and get back

 

home. We're not licked yet, though:) We will be back!

 

 

 

 

 

Happy Motoring,

 

 

 

BabyBoomerBob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

CIVIL WAR SUPLUS - Made in China. LOL

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Seems you really have a knack for finding camels. I

 

> believe that I was

 

> totally unaware of the camel statue in Lexington

 

> before you mentioned it and

 

> I'm pretty sure I've never seen a one grazing in

 

> Georgia. I'm really

 

> disappointed that Wildman's wasn't open. I'd really

 

> like to know what sort

 

> of "CIVIL WAR SURPLUS" is available in 2006.

 

>

 

> Looked like a good trip,

 

> Denny

 

>

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net]

 

> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:43 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Dixie Dreamin'--The Great

 

> Locomotive Chase--Day 3

 

>

 

>

 

> Strictly speaking, this part has nothing to do

 

> with the Great

 

> Locomotive Chase, since we were already south of

 

> Kennesaw (formerly

 

> Big Shanty) where the General was stolen. But after

 

> all, the

 

> General's run did start in Atlanta:)

 

>

 

> <<<snip>>>

 

>

 

> We finally did get to Hampton, but we're pretty

 

> sure it was the

 

> wrong way:( We took some pictures of the depot and

 

> adjacent park

 

> <Hampton 01-04>, then decided we'd better call it

 

> quits and get back

 

> home. We're not licked yet, though:) We will be

 

> back!

 

>

 

>

 

> Happy Motoring,

 

>

 

> BabyBoomerBob

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Visit our homepage at:

 

> http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

>

 

> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE

 

> TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH

 

> YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

> Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519,

 

> Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

 

> SUBSCRIPTION RATES:

 

> 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95

 

> (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

> 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95

 

> (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

>

 

>

 

> For questions about the list, contact:

 

> AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

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> message via e-mail, send it

 

> to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

>

 

> Yahoo! Groups Links

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,

 

but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

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What is the name of the place? I will take a look at my maps but I think

 

that the route 40 takes now is the alignment it has followed since it was

 

realigned to piggyback 61 through there...my 1940 map had US 40 going

 

through St. Charles and going West from there....back then the route through

 

Chesterfield was just US 61...Tsingtao Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: <roadmaven@aol.com>

 

To: <>; <route-40@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:12 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US 40/Chesterfield, MO

 

 

 

 

 

> Hi all...We're staying in Chesterfield, MO this Friday. Is there a

 

reference

 

> that anyone knows of that might show what the alignment of US 40 used to

 

be

 

> through there? I'm trying to figure out if this particular hotel is on a

 

> former alignment. I thought I remember reading somewhere a while back

 

something

 

> showing US 40 alignments through the St. Louis area. Thanks much!

 

>

 

> Pat B.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

>

 

> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434

 

WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

> Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

 

> SUBSCRIPTION RATES:

 

> 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95

 

> (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

> 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95

 

> (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

>

 

>

 

> For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

> To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to:

 

AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it

 

to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@...> wrote:

 

>

 

> What is the name of the place? I will take a look at my maps but I

 

think

 

> that the route 40 takes now is the alignment it has followed since it

 

was

 

> realigned to piggyback 61 through there...my 1940 map had US 40 going

 

> through St. Charles and going West from there....back then the route

 

through

 

> Chesterfield was just US 61...Tsingtao Kip

 

 

 

That would be the Doubletree Hotel on Swingley Ridge Road. We decided

 

to "name our own price" in the St. Louis area and Doubletree took it.

 

I'll take $35 for a 3-star hotel any day of the week, thank ya. I was

 

checking my map to see exactly where Chesterfield was and noticed 40

 

appeared to piggyback I-64 through there. I figured unless 64 was built

 

on top of it, old 40 must be around there somewhere.

 

 

 

Pat B.

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US 40/61 was reconstructed as an expressway several years before I-64 was

 

extended from just East of the Poplar Street Bridge to just west of the

 

Daniel Boone Bridge (which is just West of where you are staying)...it could

 

be said that I-64 piggybacks 40/61--40/61 was there first...Tsingtao Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com>

 

To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com>

 

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:31 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US 40/Chesterfield, MO

 

 

 

 

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > What is the name of the place? I will take a look at my maps but I

 

> think

 

> > that the route 40 takes now is the alignment it has followed since it

 

> was

 

> > realigned to piggyback 61 through there...my 1940 map had US 40 going

 

> > through St. Charles and going West from there....back then the route

 

> through

 

> > Chesterfield was just US 61...Tsingtao Kip

 

>

 

> That would be the Doubletree Hotel on Swingley Ridge Road. We decided

 

> to "name our own price" in the St. Louis area and Doubletree took it.

 

> I'll take $35 for a 3-star hotel any day of the week, thank ya. I was

 

> checking my map to see exactly where Chesterfield was and noticed 40

 

> appeared to piggyback I-64 through there. I figured unless 64 was built

 

> on top of it, old 40 must be around there somewhere.

 

>

 

> Pat B.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com

 

>

 

> To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434

 

WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY!

 

> Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

 

> SUBSCRIPTION RATES:

 

> 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95

 

> (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

> 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95

 

> (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

>

 

>

 

> For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

> To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to:

 

AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it

 

to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

>

 

>

 

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President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the interstate system

 

on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been travelling across the

 

US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed to arrive in

 

Washington, DC today.

 

 

 

The original one crossed the US from DC to SF back in 1919 on the

 

old Lincoln Highway and was led by none other that Dwight

 

Eisenhower. It soon became apparent that the road system of the US

 

was not up to the task of handling the increasing auto traffic.

 

 

 

For better, or worse, travel in the US would never be the same.

 

 

 

A big thanks to Scott Piotrowski, who, in his blog, alerted me to

 

one excellent article in the June 25th Baltimore Sun by Stephanie

 

Shapiro titled "Shaping America, mile by mile."

 

 

 

This gives a very balanced treatment, giving both the good and the

 

bad about the interstates. I'll briefly give some of the points

 

here.

 

 

 

The bad:

 

1. It's right of way destroyed portions of cities and some small

 

towns (Glenrio, Tx)

 

2. "..pushed much of the country's richly varied landscape off the

 

map

 

3. It's monotonous uniformity

 

4. Money was diverted from other roads

 

5. The urban exodus

 

 

 

The good:

 

1. Above all else, our nation's highways are safer

 

2. The US "is a much more unified country, politically and

 

culturally."

 

3. The rise of the trucking industry

 

4. The impact and responding growth on some US cities

 

since the 60s

 

5. The growth of Edge Cities

 

 

 

I highly recommend you read it. Anyone have their own thoghts on any

 

of this?

 

 

 

You can check out the newspaper. Go to title search.

 

 

 

I did get part of the url

 

 

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal-

 

id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor...

 

 

 

Perhaps one of you people who are better at doing this computer

 

stuff can get the whole url. Again, this is a worthwhile article to

 

read.

 

 

 

I know a lot of road warriors don't care for those interstates, but

 

just imagine how bad our two lane roads would be without the

 

interstates.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog

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Guest Dave Reese

Try

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal...0,7927781.story

 

<http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal...0,7927781.story

 

>

 

I hope this comes through as complete...

 

 

 

Dave Reese

 

Allentown PA

 

Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park

 

http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway

 

http://www.summerharmony.com

 

 

 

Today in Auto History:

 

6.29.1956

 

President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed a bill creating the interstate system, a

 

41,000-mile

 

highway network reaching every nook and most crannies in the continental U.S.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

 

 

 

 

President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the interstate system

 

on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been travelling across the

 

US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed to arrive in

 

Washington, DC today.

 

 

 

 

 

I did get part of the url

 

 

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal-

 

id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor...

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After reading the "good" and "bad" points I'm not

 

convince that the "rise of the trucking" industry is

 

such a good thing.

 

 

 

Anybody who has been out on an interstate in a low

 

visibility storm and had an 18 wheeler go roaring by

 

at 65, 70 or faster knows what I'm talking about.

 

 

 

And before you toss a brick at me, I've done a few

 

miles behind the wheel of tractor trailer trucks. All

 

to many drivers today are totally irresponsible.

 

 

 

Put the freight back on the railroads where it

 

belongs and spend some of the money repairing the

 

interstates torn up by heavy trucks into improving the

 

rail systems.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

 

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- roaddog_rt66 <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the

 

> interstate system

 

> on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been

 

> travelling across the

 

> US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed

 

> to arrive in

 

> Washington, DC today.

 

>

 

> The original one crossed the US from DC to SF back

 

> in 1919 on the

 

> old Lincoln Highway and was led by none other that

 

> Dwight

 

> Eisenhower. It soon became apparent that the road

 

> system of the US

 

> was not up to the task of handling the increasing

 

> auto traffic.

 

>

 

> For better, or worse, travel in the US would never

 

> be the same.

 

>

 

> A big thanks to Scott Piotrowski, who, in his blog,

 

> alerted me to

 

> one excellent article in the June 25th Baltimore Sun

 

> by Stephanie

 

> Shapiro titled "Shaping America, mile by mile."

 

>

 

> This gives a very balanced treatment, giving both

 

> the good and the

 

> bad about the interstates. I'll briefly give some

 

> of the points

 

> here.

 

>

 

> The bad:

 

> 1. It's right of way destroyed portions of cities

 

> and some small

 

> towns (Glenrio, Tx)

 

> 2. "..pushed much of the country's richly varied

 

> landscape off the

 

> map

 

> 3. It's monotonous uniformity

 

> 4. Money was diverted from other roads

 

> 5. The urban exodus

 

>

 

> The good:

 

> 1. Above all else, our nation's highways are safer

 

> 2. The US "is a much more unified country,

 

> politically and

 

> culturally."

 

> 3. The rise of the trucking industry

 

> 4. The impact and responding growth on some US

 

> cities

 

> since the 60s

 

> 5. The growth of Edge Cities

 

>

 

> I highly recommend you read it. Anyone have their

 

> own thoghts on any

 

> of this?

 

>

 

> You can check out the newspaper. Go to title

 

> search.

 

>

 

> I did get part of the url

 

>

 

> http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal-

 

> id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor...

 

>

 

> Perhaps one of you people who are better at doing

 

> this computer

 

> stuff can get the whole url. Again, this is a

 

> worthwhile article to

 

> read.

 

>

 

> I know a lot of road warriors don't care for those

 

> interstates, but

 

> just imagine how bad our two lane roads would be

 

> without the

 

> interstates.

 

>

 

> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

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Guest jim conkle

KTLA morning show tomorrow will be featuring a segment with David Sheehan on

 

our just past Will Rogers event held in Albuquerque. As those of you that

 

were there know David had a film crew filming the opening part.

 

 

 

I am not sure if it is the 7 or 8 AM segments. I will be at the POCI

 

convention in Ontario and will miss it.

 

 

 

It will be under David Sheehan, Route 66 or Will Rogers. For those that miss

 

it David's people will be providing us a copy of the video.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

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Guest Brusca, Frank

<opinion>

 

 

 

My good and bad list would include:

 

 

 

Good:

 

 

 

Faster movement of goods

 

Largest employment endeavor in world history

 

 

 

Bad:

 

 

 

Dominance of corporate hospitality industry and death of independent

 

motels. Thank goodness indy restaurants have survived relatively

 

unscathed.

 

First deathblow to the passenger railroad industry (airlines deserve

 

most of the blame for this)

 

Displaced and divided communities (the urban poor took the biggest hit

 

when highways were built through cities)

 

Induced demand (roads encourage more traffic; more traffic requires more

 

roads...)

 

Increase in the hectic pace of life (seems like it gets worst every

 

year)

 

Massive oil consumption and dependence on foreign sources of energy

 

Growth of edge cities

 

Sprawl

 

Wal*Mart and the death of Main Street

 

 

 

The Interstates failed in a number of key areas. First, is that the

 

highways were constructed in the name of national defense. Fifty years

 

later, it is clear that the highways have done very little in the name

 

of defense. Instead, they've contributed more to commerce than anything

 

else. Second, the Interstates weren't intended to run through cities -

 

they were just supposed to connect them. Eisenhower was shocked when he

 

learned that inner city highways were buried in the fine print of the

 

bill he signed! Perhaps the biggest shortcoming with the Interstate

 

System is that almost everyone neglected on-going maintenance. The

 

common attitude was that the highways would be built and then the

 

project would be completed. In this regard, the highway doomsayers were

 

right on the money. A large portion of each state's annual budgets now

 

go to highway maintenance.

 

 

 

The best history of the Interstates is Tom Lewis' book Divided Highways

 

(it was a Ken Burns documentary - if PBS was smart they'd be showing it

 

tonight).

 

 

 

My biggest beef with is speed and the process of driving on Interstates.

 

Before the Interstates, we could pull over and do whatever. Have a

 

picnic. Explore. Rest our feet and eyes. Can't do that today. If you

 

pull over you get honked at, get flipped the bird and the Highway Patrol

 

stops by. Sigh...

 

 

 

I drive the Interstates (but I prefer slower back roads). They're a

 

fact of life in contemporary America. As I drive on the I-ways, I do my

 

best to remember their high cost.

 

 

 

</opinion>

 

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Frank Brusca

 

Westerville, Ohio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

 

 

 

From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

[mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Burr

 

Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:24 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Happy 50th Birthday Interstates

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After reading the "good" and "bad" points I'm not

 

convince that the "rise of the trucking" industry is

 

such a good thing.

 

 

 

Anybody who has been out on an interstate in a low

 

visibility storm and had an 18 wheeler go roaring by

 

at 65, 70 or faster knows what I'm talking about.

 

 

 

And before you toss a brick at me, I've done a few

 

miles behind the wheel of tractor trailer trucks. All

 

to many drivers today are totally irresponsible.

 

 

 

Put the freight back on the railroads where it

 

belongs and spend some of the money repairing the

 

interstates torn up by heavy trucks into improving the

 

rail systems.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

 

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- roaddog_rt66 <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com

 

<mailto:roaddog_rt66%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

 

 

 

> President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the

 

> interstate system

 

> on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been

 

> travelling across the

 

> US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed

 

> to arrive in

 

> Washington, DC today.

 

>

 

> The original one crossed the US from DC to SF back

 

> in 1919 on the

 

> old Lincoln Highway and was led by none other that

 

> Dwight

 

> Eisenhower. It soon became apparent that the road

 

> system of the US

 

> was not up to the task of handling the increasing

 

> auto traffic.

 

>

 

> For better, or worse, travel in the US would never

 

> be the same.

 

>

 

> A big thanks to Scott Piotrowski, who, in his blog,

 

> alerted me to

 

> one excellent article in the June 25th Baltimore Sun

 

> by Stephanie

 

> Shapiro titled "Shaping America, mile by mile."

 

>

 

> This gives a very balanced treatment, giving both

 

> the good and the

 

> bad about the interstates. I'll briefly give some

 

> of the points

 

> here.

 

>

 

> The bad:

 

> 1. It's right of way destroyed portions of cities

 

> and some small

 

> towns (Glenrio, Tx)

 

> 2. "..pushed much of the country's richly varied

 

> landscape off the

 

> map

 

> 3. It's monotonous uniformity

 

> 4. Money was diverted from other roads

 

> 5. The urban exodus

 

>

 

> The good:

 

> 1. Above all else, our nation's highways are safer

 

> 2. The US "is a much more unified country,

 

> politically and

 

> culturally."

 

> 3. The rise of the trucking industry

 

> 4. The impact and responding growth on some US

 

> cities

 

> since the 60s

 

> 5. The growth of Edge Cities

 

>

 

> I highly recommend you read it. Anyone have their

 

> own thoghts on any

 

> of this?

 

>

 

> You can check out the newspaper. Go to title

 

> search.

 

>

 

> I did get part of the url

 

>

 

> http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal-

 

<http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal->

 

> id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor...

 

>

 

> Perhaps one of you people who are better at doing

 

> this computer

 

> stuff can get the whole url. Again, this is a

 

> worthwhile article to

 

> read.

 

>

 

> I know a lot of road warriors don't care for those

 

> interstates, but

 

> just imagine how bad our two lane roads would be

 

> without the

 

> interstates.

 

>

 

> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,

 

but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

__________________________________________________

 

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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

 

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