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Guest David Willman alias Willy

Thanks, Jim. Good plug for Mr. Krim. I second the review for

 

those who want stories about

 

the road.

 

 

 

I read three chapters of this book over the recent 66

 

festival this past weekend, it

 

was someone else's. I had to give it back.

 

I could not put it down, it was engaging writing for sure

 

and a great idea for a book.

 

As soon as I got home, I went ahead and purchased online.

 

 

 

I highly recommend it, it is going to be good reading during

 

my next superslab

 

trip as a passenger this coming weekend here in Colorado to

 

keep me in a 66 state of mind.

 

 

 

Dave 66Willy Willman

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

[mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ross

 

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:54 PM

 

To: American Road

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] New Book

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Greetings Everyone,

 

 

 

Many of you may know this already, but Arthur Krim's new

 

book, Route 66: Iconography of the American Highway, is now

 

available from the U. of Chicago Press. I have known Arthur

 

for years, and for a time he served on the masthead of

 

American Road as "Geographer." He doesn't get out on the

 

road that much and is not one to engage in self-promotion,

 

so I wanted you all to know that his book has had a

 

favorable review by the Wall Street Journal in their

 

Sat./Sun. June 17 / June 18 edition. If you are interested

 

in a detailed, highly researched volume that delves into the

 

stories behind the songs, films, books, personalities, and

 

cartographic history of the road, you will want this book.

 

 

 

Jim R.

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Guest Alex Burr

Our (travel) cups runneth over - first we have Toshiro

 

and Toshio and Hiroko taking us on a 3000 mile journey

 

across U S 30; now we have Kathy's great site taking

 

us out of the southwest headed east.

 

 

 

Can't hardly wait until I have a tad more than a few

 

minutes to wander thru your site, Kathy. Looking

 

forward to it.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Kathy Hayes <wnykathy@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> In May of this year, we travelled mainly off the

 

> interstates between

 

> Arizona and Ohio on the return of our annual trip

 

> from NY to the Grand

 

> Canyon.

 

>

 

> Some pictures and my blog (written for our family

 

> back home with roots

 

> in Syracuse, NY) can be seen at the link below.

 

> You're welcome to look

 

> at the earlier entries, but we didn't get on the

 

> back roads much on the

 

> way out.

 

>

 

>

 

http://www.travelblog.org/North-America/Un...blog-60748.html

 

>

 

> http://snipurl.com/tsc4

 

>

 

> Kathy

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

 

 

 

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Guest jim conkle

My friend Fran Mainella has announced that she is stepping down as Director

 

of the National Park Service. Whomever is her replacement will only have the

 

position for a few years. But we will work to establish connection with the

 

new director once they are appointed.

 

 

 

Fran has been a good friend of all old roads and was a big supporter of

 

ours. I will miss her and miss seeing her at events across America. She has

 

left in place a very good group of people at the NPS who will carry on. We

 

know we work with a few of them.

 

 

 

We 'roadies' wish her and her family well. Knowing Fran she will keep taps

 

on our future success's.

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

CEO

 

Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors

 

P O Box 290066

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

760 617 3991

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

760 868 3320

 

jimconkle@verizon.net

 

www.cart66pf.org

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Guest ypsislim

I think the markers at the Joy Monument are real - they may have had

 

some in storage at a WY County or State Highway Garage. I will find

 

out from Randy

 

Wagner and let you know. He was involved in the move from the

 

Continental

 

Divide to the Summit Rest Stop. When this was in the original location

 

you had

 

to get off at the Continental Divide exit off I-80, drive under the

 

X-way and then

 

up a dirt hill. There were another 4 markers in a square periphery

 

around the monument but these were continually shot up. I have two

 

commercial real photo postcards of the monument. There also used to be

 

a gas station and store at the Continental Divide - long gone - nothing

 

remains except more postcards I have found. The Ideal Section bench

 

is a memorial to the LHA Vice President & Field

 

Secretary - H. C. Osterman who died in an auto accident on the LH in

 

Indiana:

 

http://www.lincoln-highway-museum.org/Oste...rman-Index.html

 

<http://www.lincoln-highway-museum.org/Oste...rman-Index.html>

 

You can usually figure somewhere to pull off near there, and walk back

 

to the bench but be careful as traffic is bad. There are architectural

 

drawings of the Bench and the Ideal Section and a complete set of

 

Federal Hwy Aid blueprints of the project at the Jen Jensen (famous Arts

 

& Craft Style Landscape Architect) archive at the Bentley Historical

 

Mueseum at the U of M North Campus in Ann Arbor,MI. They also have

 

Henry Joy's photo scrapbooks of his 1915 LH Trip, and Roy Chapin's

 

(Hudson Motors) papers there too. ypsi-slim

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote:

 

>

 

> It took me a bit longer than two hours (Russell's mouse must corner

 

faster

 

> than mine :-) but I enjoyed every minute of it. I had no idea there

 

was a

 

> Seedling Mile School and the fresh center and side stripes on the

 

brick

 

> section in Nebraska seemed a bit unusual, too. A couple of questions:

 

>

 

> Are the four Lincoln Highway mile markers at the Henry Joy markers

 

originals

 

> from the road or reproductions?

 

>

 

> Is the Ideal Section monument in Dyer on the current US-30? I recall

 

seeing

 

> an Ideal Section plaque there but missed the stone monument.

 

>

 

> Thanks for sharing,

 

> Denny

 

>

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Guest Denny Gibson

Looks like a fun trip. Thanks for sharing. The only place that I actually

 

recognized was Arnold's in Decatur, IN. I remember it with car hops on

 

roller skates and enough 1950s' memorabilia to make Buddy Holly comfortable.

 

I hope Ohio to New York was just as much fun.

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.dennygibson.com

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: Kathy Hayes [mailto:wnykathy@gmail.com]

 

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:03 AM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US 50 road trip

 

 

 

 

 

In May of this year, we travelled mainly off the interstates between

 

Arizona and Ohio on the return of our annual trip from NY to the Grand

 

Canyon.

 

 

 

Some pictures and my blog (written for our family back home with roots

 

in Syracuse, NY) can be seen at the link below. You're welcome to look

 

at the earlier entries, but we didn't get on the back roads much on the

 

way out.

 

 

 

http://www.travelblog.org/North-America/Un...blog-60748.html

 

 

 

http://snipurl.com/tsc4

 

 

 

Kathy

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Guest Lulupic66@aol.com

Hi all.

 

I posted this to another group tonight and I thought that I would pass this

 

infor on here as well.

 

Lulu

 

 

 

 

 

> Hello all,

 

> > We will be flying into Chicago to start a portion of Route 66 in early

 

> > October.

 

> > Can anyone tell me how to locate the Route 66 sign downtown near Jackson

 

> and

 

> >

 

> > Michigan St., is it easy to locate?

 

>

 

> The sign is very easy to locate!

 

>

 

> > We will be arriving early and plan to travel at least 10 hours, maybe more

 

>

 

> > that day. Will it be possible to see everything from Chicago to

 

> Collinsville

 

> > in

 

> > that time?

 

>

 

> What is your time frame for the trip? Just to give you some time frame

 

> Chicago to St. Louis is a 5 hour drive if it is super slabbed.

 

> If you take 10 hrs down 66, you need to pick and choose where you want to

 

> stop. There is so much to do and see in IL that I have been known to take a

 

> 3

 

> hour super slab ride from Chicago, where I reside, to Springfield at least 8

 

>

 

> hours!!!!!!!!!!!

 

> There is a ton of stuff to do downtown. Just off the top of my head. There's

 

>

 

> a photo op in Countryside of The Wishing Well motel that is now closed and

 

> going to be demolished. I don't know what the current status is.

 

> Henry's in Berwyn that has a great neon sign. .

 

> There is a great museum in Joliet that is at the crossroads of RT 66 and The

 

>

 

> Lincoln Highway. There is the "Jewel of Joliet' The Rialto theater. It is a

 

> BEAUTIFUL theater that was built before the depression. When Liberace played

 

>

 

> there, he stated, "Finally I theater to match my wardrobe!"

 

> Further down near Elwood/ Wilmington there is the Midewan Prairie. It used

 

> to be the Arsenal that produced ammo for the wars. 10,000 acres I believe.

 

> The

 

> Abe Lincoln Cemetery is located here as well. It is for our citizens who

 

> served our country. Wilmington is a must stop photo op at The Launching Pad,

 

> home

 

> of the 'Gemini giant"

 

> In Braidwood there is the Polka Dot Drive in that has statues for photo ops

 

> with Marylin, James Dean and the Blues Bros.

 

> Dwight has an old Marathon Station, a great Rt. 66 Rest a few blocks down

 

> the road to your right that has a great mural painted on it.

 

> In downtown Dwight there is a great 2 cell jail that has been saved.

 

> Odell has a restored gas station that is the pride of the preservation

 

> Committee in IL

 

> Cayuga has a preserved Meramac Cavern Barn.

 

> Pontiac has a Museum downtown that houses The Hall of Fame and great

 

> shopping downtown, oh yeah, in the building next door houses a military

 

> museum.

 

> Towanda has a great linear park on the right side of 66 on the other

 

> alignment. The local kids have done some great work in the park.

 

> Bloomington has Miller Park. A GREAT park.

 

> Shirley has Funk's Grove,,,,,,,, a must stop!

 

> McClean is home to "The Dixie Truckstop" This was the former location of our

 

>

 

> Hall of Fame

 

> Atlanta is the new home of another Muffler Man? {Gemini Giant} There are

 

> some great murals all over town.

 

> Lincoln has the Postville Courthouse where Lincoln practiced as a lawyer,

 

> The town was christened by Lincoln with a watermelon. There is a memorial of

 

>

 

> that by the train Depot in town.

 

> Broadwell is the home of The Pig Hip, it was a rest that is now closed and

 

> turned into a museum. The "old Coot " Earnie Edwards, who owns it will

 

> delight

 

> you with stories and he loves visitors. This is another must see as he is 82

 

>

 

> yrs old and wont be around a lot longer!

 

> Springfield has all the Lincoln sites Home of the Cozy Dog owned by the

 

> Waldmire's whose Dad invented the corn dog!

 

> Litchfield is home the Skyview Drive In, also home to the Ariston Cafe.

 

> There is a neon sign inside the rest that has burned for 35 years and has

 

> never

 

> burned out!

 

> Before you get to Staunton, you are on 66 on the west side of I-55. There

 

> is the other Meramac Cavern Barn and on the right side is ST Paul's Church

 

> that

 

> has a neon cross in it.

 

> A must stop is Henry's Rabbit Ranch. You can't miss it. He has several

 

> "Snorton Norton" Trailers on his property, along with a couple of old Motel

 

> signs

 

> that were saved from the wrecking ball. His latest acquisition is a Jack

 

> Rabbit that you can climb on it for a photo op

 

>

 

> Hamel has a great Roadhouse named Scotties which is very family friendly

 

> atmosphere, even though it is part bar. They were inducted into our Hall of

 

> Fame

 

> this year!

 

> Collinsville is home the the Largest Catsup Bottle. It is an old water tower

 

>

 

> painted to look like a Catsup. The plant next to it used to make Catsup

 

> there. You want to get on I-270 to cross over the Mississippi if you want to

 

> see

 

> the Chain of Rocks Bridge.

 

> In Mitchell there is another Road House named the Luna Cafe. Another great

 

> old place. The sign is a Martini glass with a cherry in it. It used to be a

 

> "Speakeasy"

 

> When the cherry was lit that meant that "The Girls" were "working"

 

> Get off the first exit and make a left. If you want to check out the

 

> visitors center turn right and you will see it you need to make a left hand

 

> turn

 

> pretty quick to get to it.

 

> When you head south the entrance to the COR Bridge is on the left. It is

 

> open dawn to dusk. The area is OK during the day but you might not want to

 

> linger

 

> after "Dark Thirty"

 

>

 

> > I

 

> >

 

> > If staying in Collinsville I highly recommend a stay at the Best Western

 

> > across from the old drive in sign at the interesection of RT 55 and RT 111

 

>

 

> In St Louis if you have time, going to the Top of the Arch is a great stop

 

> and a very cool museum underneath it. Great photo ops!

 

> Whew!!!!!!!! It took me almost an hour to write this.

 

> So you need to pick and choose what you really want to know and save some

 

> time for unexpected stuff, such as garage sales, flea markets, and anything

 

> else

 

> that you might stumble upon.

 

> My two fave sayings "It's not the destination, its the Journey" and to

 

> borrow from Michael Wallis and Emily Priddy

 

> "Life begins at the off ramp!"

 

> I hope this helps. If anybody needs any thing you can contact me offline

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Guest beckyrepp

Hi. Good question. The La Posada web site indicates that "the

 

restaurant was created in 2000 to re-create the elegant dining

 

experience of the famous Turquoise Room dining car on the Santa Fe

 

Railway's Super Chief." There was a resaurant at the La Posada--a

 

historic picture of the old main dining room is on the website at

 

http://laposada.org/history.htm..

 

 

 

Becky

 

American Road Coordinating Editor

 

becky@mockturtlepress.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote:

 

>

 

> In a message dated 1/27/06 9:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

 

> becky@m... writes:

 

> The chef/owner had 5 star restaurants in California prior

 

> to running the Turquoise Room. He has brought back some of the Harvey

 

> House values to the restaurant at the La Posada (fresh, excellent

 

> food, and good service).

 

> ====================================================================

 

> Was it called the Turquoise Room in its Harvey/Santa Fe days? The

 

reason I

 

> ask is because the Santa Fe RR had another Turquoise Room. It was a

 

private

 

> dining room, separate from the regular dining car, on board the

 

luxury train Super

 

> Chief. It was used for private groups. In the early fifties, that

 

included a

 

> lot of Hollywood stars.

 

>

 

> Tom Hoffman

 

> Pearisburg VA

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

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Guest roaddog_rt66

We've seen and photographed that beautiful sign and motel, but never

 

stayed there. After these endorsements, we will do just that our

 

next visit.

 

 

 

We've been in Springfield twice and both times stayed at the Rail

 

Haven and were impressed with all the work they've done and money

 

they've spent to bring it back to its former glory. They also have

 

a booklet for sale about the history of the place.

 

 

 

The old restaurant is now the office, and they have a complimentary

 

breakfast and free internet access there.

 

 

 

I would like for them, however, to rebuild the great old sign they

 

used to have.

 

 

 

The rooms were very reasonable as well. We enjoyed sitting out by

 

the pool at night and listening to the many cars tooling by on the

 

old 66. And one thing about Springfield, there is a LOT of traffic.

 

However, we've not been fortunate enough to run into any 66

 

enthusiasts. The old Takhomasak Steak and Shake is very close by.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "brownwho63" <brownwho63@y...>

 

wrote:

 

>

 

> Happy Birthday, Shelvis.......We also love the vintage Rest Haven

 

> and have stayed there several times. Most fun overnight was a

 

> couple of years ago when *several* of us roadies stayed there

 

> following the conclusion of the annual Route 66 Association of

 

> Missouri motor tour. We sat under the shade tree in the

 

courtyard,

 

> toasted the motor tour with a few cold ones, and told Route 66

 

> tales. Awesome!....Bliss

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham

 

> <SHELLEE66@E...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Hey Folks,

 

> >

 

> > I don't often post so don't get too excited. Hehe. For my

 

birthday

 

> (Friday,

 

> > Jan.20th) my boyfriend JIM ROSS and I met up in Springfield,

 

> Missouri. He

 

> > brought along another girl -- his little dog MURPHY -- a

 

miniature

 

> > Dachshund.

 

> >

 

> > We all stayed in Room 15 of the REST HAVEN MOTEL

 

> > on Kearney Street. This is a very cute motel

 

> > with older stone cabins.

 

> >

 

> > Our room had a king-sized bed that was just perfect for 2.1

 

> people/critters.

 

> > The room was clean, bathroom had great vintage black & white

 

tile

 

> on the

 

> > floor and an authentic '50s boomerang pattern on a vanity table

 

> (with 3

 

> > mirrors above it).

 

> >

 

> > Of course, anyone who's anyone knows the AWESOME neon sign out

 

> front.

 

> > Wonderful, colorful and authentic. (I think I have this right:

 

The

 

> first

 

> > owners of the Munger Moss Motel were so impressed with the REST

 

> HAVEN MOTEL

 

> > neon sign, they copied it when they updated their sign in

 

Lebanon,

 

> MO.)

 

> >

 

> > Anyway -- Jim and I just wanted y'all to know that we would go

 

> back and stay

 

> > again. This was our first time staying at the REST Haven Motel.

 

> (not to be

 

> > confused with the Rail Haven ... :-)

 

> >

 

> > KEN, the owner was nice enough but I'd like to see him get into

 

> the Spirit

 

> > of Route 66 just a little more. If you get the chance, stop by

 

and

 

> talk with

 

> > him. As you know, enthusiasm is contagious.

 

> >

 

> > Next time you're in Springfield, Missouri

 

> > --give the REST HAVEN MOTEL a try.

 

> > I'm glad we did.

 

> >

 

> > Shellee G.

 

> > aka Coral Court gal

 

> >

 

> > -------------------------------------

 

> >

 

>

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Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

beckyrepp <becky@mockturtlepress.com> wrote:

 

Hi. Good question. The La Posada web site indicates that "the

 

restaurant was created in 2000 to re-create the elegant dining

 

experience of the famous Turquoise Room dining car on the Santa Fe

 

Railway's Super Chief." There was a resaurant at the La Posada--a

 

historic picture of the old main dining room is on the website at

 

http://laposada.org/history.htm..

 

 

 

Becky

 

American Road Coordinating Editor

 

becky@mockturtlepress.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote:

 

>

 

> In a message dated 1/27/06 9:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

 

> becky@m... writes:

 

> The chef/owner had 5 star restaurants in California prior

 

> to running the Turquoise Room. He has brought back some of the Harvey

 

> House values to the restaurant at the La Posada (fresh, excellent

 

> food, and good service).

 

> ====================================================================

 

> Was it called the Turquoise Room in its Harvey/Santa Fe days? The

 

reason I

 

> ask is because the Santa Fe RR had another Turquoise Room. It was a

 

private

 

> dining room, separate from the regular dining car, on board the

 

luxury train Super

 

> Chief. It was used for private groups. In the early fifties, that

 

included a

 

> lot of Hollywood stars.

 

>

 

> Tom Hoffman

 

> Pearisburg VA

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Shellee Graham

Howdy Folks,

 

 

 

Yes, it's strange but true. My own touring photo exhibition has made its way

 

to St. Louis. In the 10+ years that the show has been touring, the

 

exhibition has never been to the St. Louis area.

 

 

 

Here are the details:

 

 

 

=======================

 

 

 

RETURN TO ROUTE 66: PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THE MOTHER ROAD

 

 

 

BY SHELLEE GRAHAM

 

 

 

February 12 - April 12, 2006

 

 

 

 

 

The Old Courthouse

 

Jefferson National Expansion Memorial

 

11 N. 4th Street

 

St. Louis, MO 63102

 

 

 

314-655-1600

 

 

 

 

 

OPENING RECEPTION: SUNDAY, FEB. 12th

 

 

 

=======================

 

 

 

I think we're having some kick-off event

 

around 1 pm. I might give a slide show or talk.

 

 

 

The opening is probably from 1 - 4 pm. (I'll probably send out another

 

message closer to show time.)

 

 

 

Thank ya.

 

 

 

Shellee Graham

 

 

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~shellee66/sg.html

 

http://www.cafepress.com/coralcourt

 

 

 

 

 

During Graham?s extensive travels throughout the eight states of

 

Route 66, and witnessing the victimization brought by the jaws

 

of progress, she felt driven to preserve on film the people as well as the

 

landmark diners, motels, gas stations and other icons so they could be

 

shared with others long after their demise. The result became ?Return to

 

Route 66: Photographs from the Mother Road,? which debuted in St. Louis in

 

1992. Since then, this traveling photo exhibition has circulated all over

 

the U.S., from California and Washington to Louisiana and Oklahoma to

 

Delaware and Massachusetts. Currently, it is with Smith Kramer Fine Art

 

Services of Kansas City and is scheduled to appear at various venues

 

nationwide through 2008.

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> >I've listened to the Cross Country XM station, Pat and

 

> >that's all that I think would interest me. It's Americana

 

> >oriented radio. XM used to have a loop that you could

 

> >listen to free for a couple of hours on the net...but now

 

> >you have to pay for it after a couple of hours. Well, I

 

> >guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Few full feature

 

> >internet services are free these days.

 

> >

 

> >But, to answer your question...no, I wouldn't pay for a

 

> >player and a subscription. You know XM and Sirius are a

 

> >partnership of GM and some other car company.....I think

 

> >it's a lot to pay into the pockets of their stockholders.

 

> > Listen to free radio...or donate to a non-profit, public

 

> >radio station. That's one person's opinion, though.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

Matt:

 

 

 

Haven't you missed something? XM receivers are available on new GM

 

and Honda vehicles (in fact, I have one in my Accord!); and Sirius

 

receivers can be ordered on new Ford, Chrysler, BMW, Mercedes-Benz,

 

Nissan, Toyota, Mazda and Mitsubishi. Whew! I'm lucky, though, to

 

have XM so I can listen to all the Red Sox games during baseball

 

season no matter where I go, thanks to XM's contract with MLB. And I

 

also like to listen to the Top-40 and Soft Rock/Lite stations as well.

 

 

 

Tanya C. Anderson

 

Boston, MA

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I do not yet have satellite radio on any car, but I am interested in XM just so

 

I could

 

follow my Phillies on vacation. My son has had it for a couple of years now, and

 

he loves

 

his while traveling around the Colorado/New Mexico area. He installed his own

 

when he

 

replaced his stereo...

 

 

 

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Allentown PA

 

Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park

 

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I'm lucky, though, to

 

have XM so I can listen to all the Red Sox games during baseball

 

season no matter where I go, thanks to XM's contract with MLB.

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:07:49 -0000

 

"tanya_c_anderson" <tanya_c_anderson@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> > >I've listened to the Cross Country XM station,

 

> Pat and

 

> > >that's all that I think would interest me. 

 

> It's Americana

 

> > >oriented radio. XM used to have a loop that you

 

> could

 

> > >listen to free for a couple of hours on the

 

> net...but now

 

> > >you have to pay for it after a couple of

 

> hours.  Well, I

 

> > >guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Few full

 

> feature

 

> > >internet services are free these days.

 

> > >

 

> > >But, to answer your question...no, I wouldn't

 

> pay for a

 

> > >player and a subscription.  You know XM and

 

> Sirius are a

 

> > >partnership of GM and some other car

 

> company.....I think

 

> > >it's a lot to pay into the pockets of their

 

> stockholders.

 

> > > Listen to free radio...or donate to a

 

> non-profit, public

 

> > >radio station.  That's one person's

 

> opinion, though.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >Matt Smallwood

 

>

 

> Matt:

 

>

 

> Haven't you missed something?  XM receivers are

 

> available on new GM

 

> and Honda vehicles (in fact, I have one in my Accord!);

 

> and Sirius

 

> receivers can be ordered on new Ford, Chrysler, BMW,

 

> Mercedes-Benz,

 

> Nissan, Toyota, Mazda and Mitsubishi.  Whew! 

 

> I'm lucky, though, to

 

> have XM so I can listen to all the Red Sox games during

 

> baseball

 

> season no matter where I go, thanks to XM's contract with

 

> MLB.  And I

 

> also like to listen to the Top-40 and Soft Rock/Lite

 

> stations as well.

 

>

 

> Tanya C. Anderson

 

> Boston, MA

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

Good point, Tanya. I didn't realize both services had

 

sports programming, too. I can't listen to much baseball

 

anyways, though. I work nights in a call center, so it

 

wouldn't make much sense for me.

 

 

 

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I purchased an XM on Ebay last week and it was delivered yesterday. I

 

didn't want to dump a large amount of cash on the unit, so I went with

 

the inexpensive Delphi Roady 2. The unit is really simple to use, and

 

the sound quality is very good, given the fact I'm running it via the

 

internal FM transmitter, which is the least quality sound setting. So

 

far so good though.

 

 

 

However, one drawback is you have to pay a king's ransom if you want to

 

get extra accessories, such as a second car mounting unit or the home

 

kit.

 

 

 

Pat B.

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On the way to Maysville last weekend I noticed that the See Rock City barn

 

on US-68 that Becky Repp mentioned in message 4039 is gone. Much of the

 

siding was missing when I was last by there in October (

 

http://www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip13...ex.htm#section8 ) and now

 

there is nothing at all left of the barn.

 

 

 

--Denny

 

 

 

P.S. I learned that there's not much value in searching through this group's

 

messages looking for '68'. Folks tend to leave at least one copy of the

 

canned footer in place when replying and it touts American Road & Mock

 

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Well, April has almost Come and Gone, and September is just around the

 

corner...it is never too early to start planning your trip to the Show Me State

 

and JOIN us for the 17th Annual Route 66 Association of Missouri Motor Tour!

 

 

 

Join the Route 66 Association of Missouri as we celebrate "80 years on Route 66"

 

with our 17th Annual Motor Tour, September 8th, 9th, and 10th, 2006. This year's

 

tour will be an east-to-west run, starting in Litchfield, Illinois and ending in

 

St. Robert, Missouri.

 

 

 

The festivities will kick off on Friday, September 8th, with registration at the

 

Comfort Inn in Litchfield, Illinois. The motel, which is located at 1010 E.

 

Columbian Boulevard N. in Litchfield, has a block of rooms reserved which will

 

be available for a discounted rate of $60.00 per night. Call (217)324-9260 to

 

make your reservations, and be sure to mention you are with the Route 66

 

Association of Missouri Motor Tour to get the discounted rate. For those

 

arriving early, there will be some optional activities for the evening as well

 

as the normal roadie gathering in the registration area.

 

 

 

Tour registration will resume at 7:00 a.m. on Saturday, September 9th, and the

 

actual Motor Tour will depart the motel promptly at 8 a.m. There will be a poker

 

run, with hands costing $5 each, for tour participants to play as they travel

 

the route on Saturday, and poker hands will be available for purchase at

 

registration and before the Motor Tour leaves the motel Saturday morning. There

 

will be recommended stops along the tour route, but participants are encouraged

 

to make the tour at their own pace and select their own stops. Recommended stops

 

and other planned activities will be detailed in the Motor Tour Agenda Folder,

 

given out at the time of registration. All participants are, however, encouraged

 

to be at the Chain of Rocks Bridge, on the Illinois side promptly by 11:45 a.

 

m., so that the Motor Tour can drive, caravan-style, across the bridge from the

 

east (Illinois side) to the west (Missouri side).

 

 

 

Saturday night the Motor Tour will stay at Meramec Caverns at Staunton,

 

Missouri. All 32 rooms available at the Meramec Caverns Motel have been reserved

 

for the Motor Tour and will be held until August 15. Room rates will be $43.25

 

and $62.24, depending on the number of occupants and availability. Phone

 

(573)468-3166 or 1-800-676-6105 for reservations, and again, be sure to mention

 

you are with the Route 66 Association of Missouri Motor Tour to receive the

 

special rates. Other accommodations are available in nearby Sullivan and St.

 

Clair, Missouri, including the Baymont Inn in Sullivan (275 N. Service Road;

 

573-860-3333); and the Budget Lodging in St. Clair, (866 S. Outer Road;

 

1-800-958-4354). The Saturday evening meal will be an informal event, catered by

 

the Meramec Caverns Restaurant, and will be held in the restaurant in the park

 

headquarters.

 

 

 

Sunday's activities begin with a nondenominational worship service at 7:30 a.m.

 

on the Cave's park grounds. The Motor Tour will then proceed to Rolla, Missouri

 

promptly at 8:00 a.m. From Rolla, participants will travel on their own to the

 

Country Kitchen in St. Robert, Missouri, which will be the tour's final

 

destination. The Country Kitchen is located at 379 Highway Z (old 66, behind

 

McDonald's). Tour participants can purchase lunch there, and enjoy their

 

excellent buffet.

 

 

 

Final details, including times, planned activities, and directions, will be

 

detailed in the Motor Tour Agenda Folder, given to participants at registration.

 

 

 

For more information contact: Kip Welborn, (314)776-7385, rudkip@sbcglobal.net

 

or Jane Dippel, (314)843-7132, vestaon66@cs.com or the Route 66 Association of

 

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In a message dated 5/28/2006 8:44:31 AM Central Daylight Time,

 

AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com writes:

 

 

 

> Re: note (Camp Joy)

 

>

 

 

 

Sorry, I don't have a scanner so a verbal description will have to do.

 

 

 

 

 

My Reply

 

 

 

If you have a digital camera you can take a picture. It's a workaround to no

 

scanner and easier.

 

 

 

But then, I don't think that they don't have photos on the digests because I

 

never see them there, just in the photo section of the Yahoo group Website.

 

 

 

That fast-driving lady sounds like my Mother's driving. Ha! Ha! Close your

 

eyes and ride!

 

 

 

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First of all, my apology in taking so long to finish up this trip

 

log. I fear promptness isn't my strong suit. Terseness isn't either,

 

but I digress:)

 

 

 

I now have two pages of Webshots folders, so the pictures from

 

this trip are found at

 

http://community.webshots.com/user/babyboomerbob/1

 

 

 

The story of the Great Locomotive Chase can be found here--

 

http://ngeorgia.com/history/raiders.html

 

and the story of the General is here--

 

http://ngeorgia.com/people/thegeneral.html

 

 

 

A couple of weekends after the first day's trip, we decided to go

 

ahead and go on to "Hotlanter", even though the weather wasn't

 

optimal. There'd been some flooding, but the forecast wes for

 

clearing, so off we headed. We blasted on down the interstate,

 

returning to Dalton, GA and resuming where we left off.

 

 

 

Below Dalton we came across an old, beat up motel sign for the

 

Peach State Motel <Peach State Motel sign>. Another victim of I-75:(

 

 

 

Robert V. Droz's Dixie Highway web page, http://www.us-

 

highways.com/dixiehwy.htm notes a section of old road between Dalton

 

and Resaca, but we almost missed it. The signage is for Five Springs

 

Road and only later do the signs read Old Dixie Highway.

 

 

 

The area around Calhoun Ga, bears revisiting because of its

 

Native American heritage. Close by is New Echota, the last capital of

 

the Cherokees, and the Etowah Mounds, the remains of a culture

 

distantly linked to the Hopewell Culture of Ohio. On the north end of

 

town, we found a memorial arch dedicated to those who gave their lives

 

in the Confederate cause, and also in "The World War" <Calhoun 01-

 

03>. In the same park there is a statue that is supposed to

 

represent Sequoya <Statue of Sequoya>. I'm sorry, but I just can't

 

imagine him in feathers and carrying a bow. The picture of him I'm

 

most familiar with shows him wearing something that resembles a

 

turban, smoking a long clay pipe and holding a tablet showing the

 

Cherokee alphabet he invented.

 

 

 

Closer to downtown there is a brand new park named after a local

 

bank. It has a gazebo, a fountain, and this retro looking clock

 

<Calhoun 04>. I'm glad to see these neat looking clocks coming back

 

in style. Also there is a remodeled Pure Oil station that has been

 

converted into a used car lot <Old Gas Station 05>.

 

 

 

Below Calhoun there is a spur of old DH that has been repaved and

 

widened and connects an industrial park to US 41. At the southern

 

end, the repaved road bypasses an old bridge <Old Dixie Highway 03>

 

which is visible from 41. The other side of the bridge is blocked.

 

 

 

By the mid 50's many of the towns below Calhoun had already been

 

bypassed by US 41, so even though I had been to Atlanta a few times

 

before I-75 was built, this was my first time going through places

 

like downtown Adairsville <Adairsville, 01, 02>. The old road was

 

marked with historic US 41 signs. US 41 from Chattanooga to Atlanta

 

used to be called "Peacock Alley" for the numerous roadside stands

 

selling chenille beadspreads. It seemed like you couldn't go a mile

 

without seeing at least one. It was a colorful tradition that I miss:(

 

 

 

Below Adairsville, the Old Dixie Highway parallels US 41,

 

sometimes at a distance <Old dixie Highway 04>, sometimes side by side

 

<Old dixie Highway 06>. And in one spot it passes beneath 41 <Old

 

Dixie Highway 05>. But beyond Cassville Road, that's the last time

 

Dixie Highway and 41 are cosigned until Atlanta.

 

 

 

We passed through what's left of Cassville. It had resumed

 

raining by that time , so we didn't bother getting any pictures.

 

Cassville took a double whammy during the Civil War. It had been a

 

growing town, full of culture. The State Supreme Court had even met

 

there a time or two. Then came the Western and Atlantic Railroad.

 

The good folks of Cassville decided they didn't want the train coming

 

through town, citing concerns about rough and rowdy railroad men

 

having an adverse effect of the town's youth. Then came General

 

Sherman. The townspeople were given 20 minutes warning before the

 

Union soldiers torched the place. Cassville never recovered.

 

Cartersville used its railroad connections to grow and become the new

 

seat of Bartow County.

 

 

 

One thing about road tripping that is just about guaranteed. No

 

matter how much net research you do, you're going to find something

 

you didn't expect. The surprises add so much spice to travel! I

 

mean, how could we have known somebody living along the Old Dixie

 

Highway below Cassville would have a camel in his pasture?:) <Old

 

Dixie Highway 07>

 

 

 

Just above Cartersville, we found another old Pure Oil Station.

 

<Old Gas Station 06, 07>. This one's not in as good shape as the one

 

in Calhoun:(

 

 

 

Cartersville turned out to be a most delightful town, full of

 

neat old buildings, even if they weren't antebellum. <Cartersville

 

01> shows the Bartow County Courthouse and a church, the name of which

 

I've forgotten:( Cherokee Avenue was a particularly nice street lined

 

with old houses like the Roselawn Mansion <Cartersville 05> and a

 

number of neat old ornamental mailboxes <Cartersville 02-04>. And no,

 

Denny, I didn't look for chimney pots this trip:)

 

 

 

We stopped at the Cartersville Visitor's Center in the old depot

 

<Cartersville 06> where I found out the Railroad Museum in Kennesaw

 

closed at 4 PM. This gave us about an hour and a half to go see the

 

General. But I did get this picture of the Grand Theater before we

 

left <Cartersville 07>.

 

 

 

Since we were in a hurry, we returned to US 41 and drove to

 

Kennesaw <Kennesaw 01>. It turned out we picked a less than optimal

 

weekend:( They were doing a reenactment of the Battle of Kennesaw

 

Mountain and the place was packed. Now I know some of y'all would

 

jump at the chance to see something like this, but Susan and I don't

 

like crowds:( But that's just us. Anyway, there was a steet fair

 

going on downtown <Kennesaw 02, 03> and I had to park a considerable

 

distance away to get to the museum.

 

 

 

Before I found the museum, I wandered around the festival a bit.

 

One very stange place I found was Wild Man's <Kennesaw 04-08> Exactly

 

what it is, I'm not sure since it was closed. Apparently, the hours

 

are flexible:) It might have been a museum/souvenir stand. A couple

 

of clarifications need to be made about the bumper stickers in <06>.

 

Kennesaw was among a handful of Georgia towns that passed a law

 

*requiring* all its citizens to carry a handgun. I'm not sure if that

 

one is still on the books or not. On the bottom sticker, MARTA is the

 

Metropolitan Atlanta Transit Authority, and Cobb refers to Cobb

 

County, where Kennesaw is.

 

 

 

Finally, I was directed to the Museum of Civil War Locomotive

 

History <Kennesaw 09>. This is what I had come to see. The last time

 

I had seen the General was in the early 60's when she was still on

 

display at the long since demolished Union Station in Chattanooga. I

 

confess I didn't spend much time looking at the rest of the exhibits,

 

but rushed on through to see the grand old lady <The General, 02,03>

 

 

 

I'll be the first to admit I felt a lot of resentment back in the

 

mid 60's when the General was spirited out of Chattanooga in the

 

middle of the night a la the Baltimore Colts. But seeing her again

 

swept all that away. She looked marvelous! All dressed up in bunting

 

and flags for the festival. I could see she was in good hands and,

 

after all, that's what counts.

 

 

 

We left Kennesaw heading north on the Old Dixie Highway and

 

returned to Cartersville. This might be a good place to make a

 

comment or two about the routing. GA 293 used to follow the Old Dixie

 

Highway from Cassville to Atlanta. But 293 has since been

 

decommissioned below Emerson. Also, from Emerson there is a road

 

called Old Allatoona Road. I have some suspicion (but *no* proof)

 

this may have been an old road to Acworth before the Allatoona Dam was

 

built. Delorme shows a clear spur to the north side of the lake, but

 

the south side isn't as clear.

 

 

 

Once we got back to Cartersville, we started looking for a

 

motel. Despite the festival, we were able to find a place in

 

Kennesaw. The Green Roof Motel was a nice, clean basic motel.

 

Nothing to write home about, but a good place to sleep.

 

 

 

But we weren't through for the day. After we checked in, we

 

returned to downtown Kennesaw and followed the DHW southbound to

 

Marrietta. We stopped in the middle of town at Glover Park <Marietta

 

01, 02>. Here we found a scale model of the General for the kids to

 

play on, with a slide in the tender:) I wandered around, taking

 

pictures of cool looking buildings <Marietta 03-05>. I'd love to know

 

what the Three Bears Cafe used to be. That sign looks more like a

 

movie marquee:) I wanted to get a picture of the Strand Theater, but

 

my camera battery went out. Luckily I got a picture of the

 

restoration sign first <Marietta 06>. Then it was back to the motel

 

and a good night's crash:)

 

 

 

To be concluded...

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Strictly speaking, this part has nothing to do with the Great

 

Locomotive Chase, since we were already south of Kennesaw (formerly

 

Big Shanty) where the General was stolen. But after all, the

 

General's run did start in Atlanta:)

 

 

 

After a good night's sleep (at least for me. Susan found the

 

matress too hard and spent some time sleeping in the van:( ), we hit

 

the road returning to Marietta. We had followed old 41 and Church

 

Street into Marietta the evening before, but I took an alternate

 

route this time. We hung a right onto Kennesaw Avenue which returned

 

us to Church Street just above Glover Park. After we got home I did

 

some web research and found a page advertizing a Dixie Highway yard

 

sale from Ringgold to Marietta this June. The route they gave

 

included Kennesaw Avenue. Now whether Kennesaw Avenue was ever part

 

of DHW or just a prefered street for the yard sale, I can't say. but

 

it was a nice residential section and a calm drive.

 

 

 

Beyond Marietta it was pretty much urban and suburban traveling

 

on through Atlanta. Smyrna has become a very upscale suburb of

 

Atlanta for those who don't mind the noise from Dobbins AFB and the

 

Atlanta Naval Air Station <Smyrna 01>. I stopped to get a picture of

 

the railroad depot <Smyrna 02> and a look at the road itself <Old

 

Dixie Highway 08>. This stretch is still a well kept major road

 

despite being doubly bypassed.

 

 

 

As we approached Atlanta, I kept looking for the Chattahoochie

 

River Bridge. I was used to the gorge jumping bridges of US 41 and I-

 

75 so when we encountered a low slung brige, more like an elongated

 

version of the bridge in <Old Dixie Highway 04>, I didn't catch on

 

that we were crossing the Chattahoochie. It's an old bridge and a

 

rather bad bottleneck since it reduces 4 lanes to two. Nonetheless I

 

could kick myself for not getting any pictures:( Not until we were

 

in Atlanta and the signs started Marietta Road instead of Atlanta

 

Road did I realize what had happened:(

 

 

 

I had worked it out so we would be driving through Atlanta on

 

sunday morning. i figured the traffic would be lighter. And so it

 

was. Now if I just hadn't gotten lost...

 

 

 

We found ourself at a t-intersection that shouldn't have been

 

there. I wandered around for awhile until I found a place that

 

looked safe to pull over in. Susan, bless her heart, brought along

 

her laptop and the Delorme disc, so she sat down and found out where

 

we were. I then figured out how to get back to US 41.

 

 

 

This was an annoyance, but it turned out to be well worth the

 

hassle as we located the Varsity on our way back <Vartity 01-04>.

 

This drive in has been a Georgia Tech tradition since 1928 and

 

featured some delightfully retro architecture. Unfortunately, since

 

it was sunday morning, it was closed:(

 

 

 

We found our way back to US 41 (now cosigned with US 19) and

 

resumed heading south. I stopped to take a picture of a wall mural

 

<Atlanta 01> and a seemingly abandoned motel <Atlanta 02, 03>.

 

 

 

We continued on until we reached Hapeville on the south side of

 

Atlanta <Hapeville Depot>. For the next two or three miles the DHW

 

paralleled US 19-41 with a railroad in between. Then we rejoined 19-

 

41 and continued south.

 

 

 

I used Delorme and my instincts to take the next piece of what I

 

suspect is old DHW. We swung left on Main Street and drove into

 

Jonesboro. I stopped to get pictures of the depot <Jonesboro 01> and

 

the Clayton County Court House <Jonesboro 02>. Main Street took us

 

on through town and back to US 19-41. If this wasn't part of DHW it

 

was still a fun road.

 

 

 

Here's another sleuthing problem. Some of these old stretches

 

are marked on Delorme and on Robert V. Droz's web site as Ga. 3.

 

Unfortunately, like Ga. 293, some of these old stretches have been

 

decommissioned. I got completely turned around trying to find the

 

old road to Hampton. I completely missed the turn at Hastings and

 

didn't head toward Hampton until I got to the Atlanta Motor

 

Speedway. Something was going on over there, probably qualifying.

 

Lots of noise:) <Atlanta Motor Speedway>

 

 

 

We finally did get to Hampton, but we're pretty sure it was the

 

wrong way:( We took some pictures of the depot and adjacent park

 

<Hampton 01-04>, then decided we'd better call it quits and get back

 

home. We're not licked yet, though:) We will be back!

 

 

 

 

 

Happy Motoring,

 

 

 

BabyBoomerBob

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Guest Denny Gibson

The National Road was always officially routed on a straight line between

 

Springfield, OH, and Richmond, IN, but an alternate path, called the Dayton

 

Cutoff, took a lot of traffic through Dayton and Eaton. On Saturday, I drove

 

the Cutoff as a sort of "side trip in advance" for my pending drive over the

 

entire National Road.

 

 

 

Pictures and words are at

 

www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip15/index.htm

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Guest medic978

Great story from the Washington Post on MSNBC.COM today

 

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13564091/ about the 50th anniversary of the

 

interstate highway system. Good discussion about how the interstates

 

have changed American life -- not necessarily for the better.

 

 

 

A couple quotes: "And it has spawned such basic elements of American

 

life as the suburb, the motel, the chain store, the recreational

 

vehicle, the seat belt, the spring-break trek to Florida, the 30-mile

 

commute and the two-mile traffic jam." ...

 

"The continent-wide delivery system that allows Wal-Mart,

 

McDonald's, Gap, 7-Eleven, Blockbuster and Holiday Inn to offer

 

identical products and services in identical stores from coast to

 

coast has turned a richly diverse nation into a standardized single

 

market -- changing the shape of towns across America."

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