Guest Alex Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Hello Everyone, I will be staying at the La Posada Hotel in Winslow, AZ for a few days next month. Aside from the popular scenic attractions such as the Meteor Crater, Painted Desert, and Petrified forest, are there any other places in the area that you guys could recommend for vacation enjoyment? History, railroads, and "Americana" are favorite subjects of mine, so any suggestions on where to go would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Does anyone have any suggestion(s) for a blue highway route from St. Louis to the Three Rivers, MI area? We did this same cruise a couple of years ago and took 66 from STL to I-80 to Michigan City, IN. I-80 was terrible because of all the construction and we're looking for an easier, more enjoyable cruise. Perhaps some "new" country that's not too far out of the way. Thanks....Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 How about U S 40 east to U S 45, north to U S 24, then east to U S 31, turn north thru South Bend and on north to U S 12 outside Buchanan and Niles - then east to U S 131, turn north to Three Rivers. Hudsonly, Alex B --- brownwho63 <brownwho63@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestion(s) for a blue > highway route from St. > Louis to the Three Rivers, MI area? We did this > same cruise a couple > of years ago and took 66 from STL to I-80 to > Michigan City, IN. I-80 > was terrible because of all the construction and > we're looking for an > easier, more enjoyable cruise. Perhaps some "new" > country that's not > too far out of the way. Thanks....Bliss > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Durso Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 This may interest a few of you.. A scooter riding friend of mine is traveling through out the east -mainly east of the mississippi from canada to the everglades by scooter.. follow it here: http://www.pjchmiel.com/ramble/ be safe adn travel well, Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 I've got a story about the Bent Door in Adrian, Texas. It's good news. http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2006/07/28...-a-diner-again/ Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK www.route66news.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Vancura Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 As a byway leader associated with the Volcanic Legacy All American Road (VLAAR), I would like to hear from folks who have traveled the VLAAR in northern California and Southern Oregon. Please let us know what your experience was like, what you strongly liked about the route and what you disliked, what made you feel good, and what made you feel unconfortable. Thanks in advance for your comments. Jim Vancura (530) 397-7463 vancura@OreCalRCandD.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lester Duncan Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hi All, This may be my first post, as I have been sitting in the pull out "on the side of the road" watching you all go by. I have been collecting clips from this site for future road trips. People miss so much traveling the new fast road systems. We must stop and taste the Real Great American Life through the roads of the past generations. The reason for this post is that I am looking for information for myself and a friend who is looking on re-tracing Route 66, yet starting in Florida this summer. We are both old car enthusiasts and would like any older car (junkyards) pastures along the way. To keep our archives from filling with nonrelated trivia, you may want to reply directly at: lpduncan@yahoo.com Thanks Les & Pat --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1?/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 What a sad day! I'm going to try to dig up the pictures that I took. . . Becky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 On the very next message after my dumb joke about searching for 68 and getting lots of hits because of the Mock Turtle Press box number, I see that the address has changed. It looks like that change appeared in the egroup message headers around the 24th making my joke even dumber. The messages now give a closer to home Michigan address for subscriptions rather than the one in Washington state. Since the P.O. Box is now 46519, I best avoid searching for 19, too:-) --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hi all, ' For those of you who are interested in RT 66, There is another yahoo group that I belong to that is exclusivly RT 66 stuff. There are close to 1000 of us on this group from people that live and try to exist along the highway and those who are experts and don't live anywhere near the road. If anbody wants to check it out the address is GROUPS.YAHOO.COM/GROUP/ROUTE66/ Just thought I would pass the info along, hope this helps, Lulu If this address doesn't work let me know and I will get you the correct address > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Some news from Chicago. We've had some articles from the Chicago Tribune in the last several weeks dealing with these items of interest. GIVE IT BACK Somewhere, somehow, a famous painting has disappeared from Marshall Field's, and the new owner wants it back. A Norman Rockwell painting called the Clock Mender, featuring a repairman holding a pocket watch on a ladder while setting the time on Field's massive State Street clock, is missing. Federated, the new owners who are changing the name to Macy's, wants the former owners, Target, to return it right away. This painting was on the November 3, 1945 cover of the Saturday Evening Post. The painting was exhibited by Fields since 1948. The Case of the Great Painting Caper!!!! I'd like to go online right now to say that I don't have it. WE'RE BACK The Berghoff Cafe has quietly opened. This has replaced the Berghoff which closed down for good after 100+ years on Adams St this past February. The bar will be expanded, have a new name, and will be opened in May. The menu at the Berghoff Cafe is essentially the same and still will feature favorites wiener schnitzel, sauerbraten, and schlachtplatter. (schlachtplatter?) It appears that the Berghoff is gone, but not really. There is still no mention of that great sign which I heard will be taken down. I hope not. There are fewer and fewer of these great old signs. It would be a shame to lose it. SAVE THAT OLD BUILDING A movement is on to save Chicago's "other" signature domicile. Everyone knows the place of the gloried bungalow, but what of that intermediate housing unit between the bungalow and the mansion? I refer to the greystone. The Historic Chicago Greystone (also spelled Graystone) Initiative has been organized with plans to start work in the somewhat blighted North Lawndale area of Chicago. It will be modeled on the Historic Chicago Bungalow Initiative, which has done such a great job with those homes. Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 In a message dated 4/29/06 11:20:35 AM Central Daylight Time, roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com writes: > The Berghoff Cafe has quietly opened. This has replaced the > Berghoff which closed down for good after 100+ years on Adams St > this past February. The bar will be expanded, have a new name, and > will be opened in May. > > The place has indeed reopened. The busboys are still the same but all the servers have changed. In an article in the Chicago Suntimes it was reported that the old waiters all are new. Seems the old waiters were all "union" The new waiters are not. I think it was a ploy to 'bust the union" just an observation Lulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beckyrepp Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Perfect - thanks Bruce. We'll get our web designer going with your reciprocal link! Anyone else interested in reciprocal links to americanroadmagazine.com, please let me know. Best, Becky --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, bwcdc99@... wrote: > > _Click here: Clark's Travel Center on Historic Route 99, "Main Street of > California"_ (http://www.clarkstravelcenter.com/links.html) > > HI BECKY > YOUR # I ON THE LINKS > HAVE A SUPER WEEKEND > BRUCE > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roadmaven@aol.com Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hi all...We're staying in Chesterfield, MO this Friday. Is there a reference that anyone knows of that might show what the alignment of US 40 used to be through there? I'm trying to figure out if this particular hotel is on a former alignment. I thought I remember reading somewhere a while back something showing US 40 alignments through the St. Louis area. Thanks much! Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Seems you really have a knack for finding camels. I believe that I was totally unaware of the camel statue in Lexington before you mentioned it and I'm pretty sure I've never seen a one grazing in Georgia. I'm really disappointed that Wildman's wasn't open. I'd really like to know what sort of "CIVIL WAR SURPLUS" is available in 2006. Looked like a good trip, Denny -----Original Message----- From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:43 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Dixie Dreamin'--The Great Locomotive Chase--Day 3 Strictly speaking, this part has nothing to do with the Great Locomotive Chase, since we were already south of Kennesaw (formerly Big Shanty) where the General was stolen. But after all, the General's run did start in Atlanta:) <<<snip>>> We finally did get to Hampton, but we're pretty sure it was the wrong way:( We took some pictures of the depot and adjacent park <Hampton 01-04>, then decided we'd better call it quits and get back home. We're not licked yet, though:) We will be back! Happy Motoring, BabyBoomerBob Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 CIVIL WAR SUPLUS - Made in China. LOL Hudsonly, Alex B --- Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote: > Seems you really have a knack for finding camels. I > believe that I was > totally unaware of the camel statue in Lexington > before you mentioned it and > I'm pretty sure I've never seen a one grazing in > Georgia. I'm really > disappointed that Wildman's wasn't open. I'd really > like to know what sort > of "CIVIL WAR SURPLUS" is available in 2006. > > Looked like a good trip, > Denny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Reynolds [mailto:roustabout@starband.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:43 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Dixie Dreamin'--The Great > Locomotive Chase--Day 3 > > > Strictly speaking, this part has nothing to do > with the Great > Locomotive Chase, since we were already south of > Kennesaw (formerly > Big Shanty) where the General was stolen. But after > all, the > General's run did start in Atlanta:) > > <<<snip>>> > > We finally did get to Hampton, but we're pretty > sure it was the > wrong way:( We took some pictures of the depot and > adjacent park > <Hampton 01-04>, then decided we'd better call it > quits and get back > home. We're not licked yet, though:) We will be > back! > > > Happy Motoring, > > BabyBoomerBob > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH > YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, > Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a > message via e-mail, send it > to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 What is the name of the place? I will take a look at my maps but I think that the route 40 takes now is the alignment it has followed since it was realigned to piggyback 61 through there...my 1940 map had US 40 going through St. Charles and going West from there....back then the route through Chesterfield was just US 61...Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: <roadmaven@aol.com> To: <>; <route-40@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US 40/Chesterfield, MO > Hi all...We're staying in Chesterfield, MO this Friday. Is there a reference > that anyone knows of that might show what the alignment of US 40 used to be > through there? I'm trying to figure out if this particular hotel is on a > former alignment. I thought I remember reading somewhere a while back something > showing US 40 alignments through the St. Louis area. Thanks much! > > Pat B. > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@...> wrote: > > What is the name of the place? I will take a look at my maps but I think > that the route 40 takes now is the alignment it has followed since it was > realigned to piggyback 61 through there...my 1940 map had US 40 going > through St. Charles and going West from there....back then the route through > Chesterfield was just US 61...Tsingtao Kip That would be the Doubletree Hotel on Swingley Ridge Road. We decided to "name our own price" in the St. Louis area and Doubletree took it. I'll take $35 for a 3-star hotel any day of the week, thank ya. I was checking my map to see exactly where Chesterfield was and noticed 40 appeared to piggyback I-64 through there. I figured unless 64 was built on top of it, old 40 must be around there somewhere. Pat B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 US 40/61 was reconstructed as an expressway several years before I-64 was extended from just East of the Poplar Street Bridge to just west of the Daniel Boone Bridge (which is just West of where you are staying)...it could be said that I-64 piggybacks 40/61--40/61 was there first...Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US 40/Chesterfield, MO > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@...> wrote: > > > > What is the name of the place? I will take a look at my maps but I > think > > that the route 40 takes now is the alignment it has followed since it > was > > realigned to piggyback 61 through there...my 1940 map had US 40 going > > through St. Charles and going West from there....back then the route > through > > Chesterfield was just US 61...Tsingtao Kip > > That would be the Doubletree Hotel on Swingley Ridge Road. We decided > to "name our own price" in the St. Louis area and Doubletree took it. > I'll take $35 for a 3-star hotel any day of the week, thank ya. I was > checking my map to see exactly where Chesterfield was and noticed 40 > appeared to piggyback I-64 through there. I figured unless 64 was built > on top of it, old 40 must be around there somewhere. > > Pat B. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the interstate system on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been travelling across the US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed to arrive in Washington, DC today. The original one crossed the US from DC to SF back in 1919 on the old Lincoln Highway and was led by none other that Dwight Eisenhower. It soon became apparent that the road system of the US was not up to the task of handling the increasing auto traffic. For better, or worse, travel in the US would never be the same. A big thanks to Scott Piotrowski, who, in his blog, alerted me to one excellent article in the June 25th Baltimore Sun by Stephanie Shapiro titled "Shaping America, mile by mile." This gives a very balanced treatment, giving both the good and the bad about the interstates. I'll briefly give some of the points here. The bad: 1. It's right of way destroyed portions of cities and some small towns (Glenrio, Tx) 2. "..pushed much of the country's richly varied landscape off the map 3. It's monotonous uniformity 4. Money was diverted from other roads 5. The urban exodus The good: 1. Above all else, our nation's highways are safer 2. The US "is a much more unified country, politically and culturally." 3. The rise of the trucking industry 4. The impact and responding growth on some US cities since the 60s 5. The growth of Edge Cities I highly recommend you read it. Anyone have their own thoghts on any of this? You can check out the newspaper. Go to title search. I did get part of the url http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal- id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor... Perhaps one of you people who are better at doing this computer stuff can get the whole url. Again, this is a worthwhile article to read. I know a lot of road warriors don't care for those interstates, but just imagine how bad our two lane roads would be without the interstates. Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Reese Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Try http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal...0,7927781.story <http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal...0,7927781.story > I hope this comes through as complete... Dave Reese Allentown PA Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway http://www.summerharmony.com Today in Auto History: 6.29.1956 President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed a bill creating the interstate system, a 41,000-mile highway network reaching every nook and most crannies in the continental U.S. -----Original Message----- President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the interstate system on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been travelling across the US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed to arrive in Washington, DC today. I did get part of the url http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal- id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 After reading the "good" and "bad" points I'm not convince that the "rise of the trucking" industry is such a good thing. Anybody who has been out on an interstate in a low visibility storm and had an 18 wheeler go roaring by at 65, 70 or faster knows what I'm talking about. And before you toss a brick at me, I've done a few miles behind the wheel of tractor trailer trucks. All to many drivers today are totally irresponsible. Put the freight back on the railroads where it belongs and spend some of the money repairing the interstates torn up by heavy trucks into improving the rail systems. Hudsonly, Alex B --- roaddog_rt66 <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com> wrote: > President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the > interstate system > on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been > travelling across the > US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed > to arrive in > Washington, DC today. > > The original one crossed the US from DC to SF back > in 1919 on the > old Lincoln Highway and was led by none other that > Dwight > Eisenhower. It soon became apparent that the road > system of the US > was not up to the task of handling the increasing > auto traffic. > > For better, or worse, travel in the US would never > be the same. > > A big thanks to Scott Piotrowski, who, in his blog, > alerted me to > one excellent article in the June 25th Baltimore Sun > by Stephanie > Shapiro titled "Shaping America, mile by mile." > > This gives a very balanced treatment, giving both > the good and the > bad about the interstates. I'll briefly give some > of the points > here. > > The bad: > 1. It's right of way destroyed portions of cities > and some small > towns (Glenrio, Tx) > 2. "..pushed much of the country's richly varied > landscape off the > map > 3. It's monotonous uniformity > 4. Money was diverted from other roads > 5. The urban exodus > > The good: > 1. Above all else, our nation's highways are safer > 2. The US "is a much more unified country, > politically and > culturally." > 3. The rise of the trucking industry > 4. The impact and responding growth on some US > cities > since the 60s > 5. The growth of Edge Cities > > I highly recommend you read it. Anyone have their > own thoghts on any > of this? > > You can check out the newspaper. Go to title > search. > > I did get part of the url > > http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal- > id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor... > > Perhaps one of you people who are better at doing > this computer > stuff can get the whole url. Again, this is a > worthwhile article to > read. > > I know a lot of road warriors don't care for those > interstates, but > just imagine how bad our two lane roads would be > without the > interstates. > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arizona Reporter Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 *Arizona Reporter Launches "Visitor Stories"* ** *City:* *Winslow, AZ* <http://www.azreporter.com/?catid=64&blogid=1> -- With millions of tourists coming to Northern Arizona each year, *Arizona Reporter * plans to capture the accounts of visitors with its new feature, "*Visitor Stories*." This visitor perspective feature will give AZReporter readers a first hand account of the state and its many points of interest (Route 66, Grand Canyon, Event/Concert) Submit your story, along with a *photo*<http://www.azreporter.com/?catid=79&blogid=1>or two, to * <arizonanewsroom@gmail.com> Pass this on to someone you know who has visited Arizona. -- James Good - Managing Editor Arizona Reporter: Arizona's Internet NewsWire http://www.azreporter.com/?-arizona-google Newsroom #: 928.289.0626 e-mail: aznewswire@gmail.com Live Music Events in Arizona: http://www.azreporter.com/?catid=68&blogid=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim conkle Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 KTLA morning show tomorrow will be featuring a segment with David Sheehan on our just past Will Rogers event held in Albuquerque. As those of you that were there know David had a film crew filming the opening part. I am not sure if it is the 7 or 8 AM segments. I will be at the POCI convention in Ontario and will miss it. It will be under David Sheehan, Route 66 or Will Rogers. For those that miss it David's people will be providing us a copy of the video. Thanks James M Conkle CEO Route 66 Preservation Foundation Preservation Historic Roads & Corridors P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 760 868 8614 fax 760 868 3320 jimconkle@verizon.net www.cart66pf.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 <opinion> My good and bad list would include: Good: Faster movement of goods Largest employment endeavor in world history Bad: Dominance of corporate hospitality industry and death of independent motels. Thank goodness indy restaurants have survived relatively unscathed. First deathblow to the passenger railroad industry (airlines deserve most of the blame for this) Displaced and divided communities (the urban poor took the biggest hit when highways were built through cities) Induced demand (roads encourage more traffic; more traffic requires more roads...) Increase in the hectic pace of life (seems like it gets worst every year) Massive oil consumption and dependence on foreign sources of energy Growth of edge cities Sprawl Wal*Mart and the death of Main Street The Interstates failed in a number of key areas. First, is that the highways were constructed in the name of national defense. Fifty years later, it is clear that the highways have done very little in the name of defense. Instead, they've contributed more to commerce than anything else. Second, the Interstates weren't intended to run through cities - they were just supposed to connect them. Eisenhower was shocked when he learned that inner city highways were buried in the fine print of the bill he signed! Perhaps the biggest shortcoming with the Interstate System is that almost everyone neglected on-going maintenance. The common attitude was that the highways would be built and then the project would be completed. In this regard, the highway doomsayers were right on the money. A large portion of each state's annual budgets now go to highway maintenance. The best history of the Interstates is Tom Lewis' book Divided Highways (it was a Ken Burns documentary - if PBS was smart they'd be showing it tonight). My biggest beef with is speed and the process of driving on Interstates. Before the Interstates, we could pull over and do whatever. Have a picnic. Explore. Rest our feet and eyes. Can't do that today. If you pull over you get honked at, get flipped the bird and the Highway Patrol stops by. Sigh... I drive the Interstates (but I prefer slower back roads). They're a fact of life in contemporary America. As I drive on the I-ways, I do my best to remember their high cost. </opinion> Cheers Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio ________________________________ From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Burr Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:24 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Happy 50th Birthday Interstates After reading the "good" and "bad" points I'm not convince that the "rise of the trucking" industry is such a good thing. Anybody who has been out on an interstate in a low visibility storm and had an 18 wheeler go roaring by at 65, 70 or faster knows what I'm talking about. And before you toss a brick at me, I've done a few miles behind the wheel of tractor trailer trucks. All to many drivers today are totally irresponsible. Put the freight back on the railroads where it belongs and spend some of the money repairing the interstates torn up by heavy trucks into improving the rail systems. Hudsonly, Alex B --- roaddog_rt66 <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com <mailto:roaddog_rt66%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > President Eisenhower signed the bill to create the > interstate system > on this day back in 1956. A convoy has been > travelling across the > US on interstates from San Francisco and is supposed > to arrive in > Washington, DC today. > > The original one crossed the US from DC to SF back > in 1919 on the > old Lincoln Highway and was led by none other that > Dwight > Eisenhower. It soon became apparent that the road > system of the US > was not up to the task of handling the increasing > auto traffic. > > For better, or worse, travel in the US would never > be the same. > > A big thanks to Scott Piotrowski, who, in his blog, > alerted me to > one excellent article in the June 25th Baltimore Sun > by Stephanie > Shapiro titled "Shaping America, mile by mile." > > This gives a very balanced treatment, giving both > the good and the > bad about the interstates. I'll briefly give some > of the points > here. > > The bad: > 1. It's right of way destroyed portions of cities > and some small > towns (Glenrio, Tx) > 2. "..pushed much of the country's richly varied > landscape off the > map > 3. It's monotonous uniformity > 4. Money was diverted from other roads > 5. The urban exodus > > The good: > 1. Above all else, our nation's highways are safer > 2. The US "is a much more unified country, > politically and > culturally." > 3. The rise of the trucking industry > 4. The impact and responding growth on some US > cities > since the 60s > 5. The growth of Edge Cities > > I highly recommend you read it. Anyone have their > own thoghts on any > of this? > > You can check out the newspaper. Go to title > search. > > I did get part of the url > > http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal- <http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal-> > id.interstate25jun25,1,1337486.stor... > > Perhaps one of you people who are better at doing > this computer > stuff can get the whole url. Again, this is a > worthwhile article to > read. > > I know a lot of road warriors don't care for those > interstates, but > just imagine how bad our two lane roads would be > without the > interstates. > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. --RoadDog > > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <http://mail.yahoo.com> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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