Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 We just found out that Quinn's mother is not doing well at all...as such we are heading North today...we will be in touch when we get back in town...Kip Quinn and Natalie Kay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ken Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Hi Steven, I can attest to the Illinois section of the National Road, that it is very well signed along US40 to direct you off onto the original National Road alignment, especially through the small towns. So well signed that it is vitually impossible to lose the route. God Bless and Happy Trails. the lanrunner --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Rider" <srider1@n...> wrote: > > Does anyone know of an on-line source for Natl Road driving instructions? > I'd like to follow as much of the original road as can be driven, and I know > if I just follow US40 I'll miss a lot. > > I do have the Karl Raitz road guide and, while it does have driving > information, it's buried in the text. While the text is interesting, it's > cumbersome trying to distill the actual driving directions from the historic > and natural history information. > > Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Plan a luncheon or dinner at Allisons in Dock Square, Kennebunkport. Been there a few times as I live in Kennebunk. Happy Travels Hudsonly, Alex Burr Fred Hazlehurst <fhazlehurst@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello Group, I'm new to the group (last week) and I'm really impressed with the volume of mail & the useful info contained in the mailings! Having just semi-retired, my wife and I are starting to think about some short 3-4 day road trips and our first destination will probably be a return to Boston for some chowda' and then maybe up to southern, coastal Maine (Ogunquit, Kennebunk) for some lobsta'. We haven't been up there for years so a return trip is in order. We usually take the interstates from central NJ because time is limited. Now that our schedule is more "relaxed" I'm open to suggestions for a more leisurely, scenic ride. Any ideas for a more enjoyable ride will be appreciated. Thanks all, Fred Hazlehurst __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Actually, the site Kip is refering to, I beleive, is this one: http://www.route40.net/index.shtml Hudsonly, Alex B --- Rudyard Welborn <r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net> wrote: > There is a website for U.S. 40, I > know....www.us40.com, I believe, or if > you punch in U.S. 40 on a search, it will come > up...Tsingtao, Kip Welborn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Rider" <srider1@nycap.rr.com> > To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:31 AM > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] National Road > > > > > > Does anyone know of an on-line source for Natl > Road driving instructions? > > I'd like to follow as much of the original road as > can be driven, and I > know > > if I just follow US40 I'll miss a lot. > > > > I do have the Karl Raitz road guide and, while it > does have driving > > information, it's buried in the text. While the > text is interesting, it's > > cumbersome trying to distill the actual driving > directions from the > historic > > and natural history information. > > > > Steve > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 > WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > 3168, Lynnwood, WA > 98046-3168 > > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carvey Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Hello All. I am in Texas and ride a Sport Touring Motorcycle. I love riding any road that gets me on a trip and if there is history behind it, even better. Carvey "Woo Hoo" Parker http://www.carveyparker.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brownwho63 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 No, we didn't stray more than 2 or 3 blocks in any direction from the Hampton because everything seemed to be right there. Didn't realize there is an old bridge to walk. Very generous offer with the tenderloin at The Diner. We'll probably be back next summer, as we try to take in at least one Fever game each season. Still Cruisin', Bliss --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roadmaven" <roadmaven@a...> wrote: > While you were downtown, were you able to walk the old 1916 US 40 > bridge crossing White River downtown by the zoo? It is a great place > to stop and view the downtown skyline...especially at dusk. > Let us know the next time you're coming through & we'll treat you > to a tenderloin at The Diner on the westside. There's a little > section of old National Road right by there that is bypassed by 40 > for a mile or so. > > Pat in Speedway > http://theroadmaven.com > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "brownwho63" <wefly66@e...> > wrote: > > Navigator and I just returned from a weekend trip on U.S. 40 to > Indy > > where we watched Katie Smith and the MN Lynx "thrash" the Fever at > > Conseco Fieldhouse. Stayed at the Hampton Inn Hotel on Meridian > and > > Maryland and were able to walk to Conseco and enjoy the downtown > > ambiance before and after the > > game. > > > > Anyway, we drove all of the old, old alignments again that we could > > find including the ones across forties(?) bridges crossing Deer > Creek > > and Walnut Creek -- east of Brazil somewhere. Also noticed that > the > > drive-in movie marquee just west of Plainfield is gone, even though > > it was there a year ago. Hate to see the old stuff like that go > but > > know it happens regularly. The INDIANA Theater in Terra Haute > always > > reminds me of the Coleman in Miami and is a wonderful archetectural > > structure. Great roads, great weekend! > > > > Still Cruisin', > > Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pogidude05 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Hello group, I'm Mac from San Diego, Ca. I am new in here and very glad that you accepted me into the group. My friends and I are planning to have a Road Trip next Spring Break (2006). Our route will be from San Diego, CA to Wichita, KS. I have some relatives and old friends in Wichita. My other friend wants to visit his birthplace in Duncan, OK. I decided to join this group to ask for any suggestions from experienced long road travelers. What are the best things that my friends and I should bring with us on the trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fred Zander Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hey Denny great pictures.Lived in Asheville in the mid 1960s. Started high school there believe its Teays Valley High School. My Dad was stationed at Lockbourne Air Force in Columbus,Ohio. Along time ago. Thanks Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Denny Gibson To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Oldest working traffic light Yesterday I stopped by Asheville Ohio to see the World's Oldest Traffic Light. During the town's 4th of July celebration it leaves the museum and hangs outside. I have a couple of pictures at http://www.dennygibson.com/ashlgt and there is a link to a site with a movie of the light in operation. I know that traffic lights probably aren't on anyone's list of favorite things but this one is kinda cool. Denny Gibson Cincinnati, OH www.DennyGibson.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rudyard Welborn Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 There is a website for U.S. 40, I know....www.us40.com, I believe, or if you punch in U.S. 40 on a search, it will come up...Tsingtao, Kip Welborn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Rider" <srider1@nycap.rr.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:31 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] National Road > > Does anyone know of an on-line source for Natl Road driving instructions? > I'd like to follow as much of the original road as can be driven, and I know > if I just follow US40 I'll miss a lot. > > I do have the Karl Raitz road guide and, while it does have driving > information, it's buried in the text. While the text is interesting, it's > cumbersome trying to distill the actual driving directions from the historic > and natural history information. > > Steve > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tina Avery Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hello Group, Just wanted to say thank you for accepting my husband and myself to the group. Looking forward to traveling this great country of ours now that we both are retired. We will be traveling to the Avery family reunion in Russell Springs, Kansas this September. Any ideas for stops along the way from Lakewood, Calif. to Kansas. Also planning a trip back east to visit family and friends in Taunton, Mass. in November. Looking forward to getting some great suggestions from the group. Wishing everyone a safe and wonderful 4th of July. Tina Avery ----- Original Message ----- From: beckyrepp<mailto:becky@mockturtlepress.com> To: <mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:39 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] AMERICAN ROAD MAGAZINE SUMMER 2005 E-NEWSLETTER GREETINGS FROM AMERICAN ROAD AND HAPPY 4TH OF JULY! This is a special edition of the e-newsletter as I typed most of it as we travel ON THE AMERICAN ROAD--actually on a 1919 stretch of the Lincoln Highway! First, the AMERICAN ROAD staff would like to extend a hearty welcome to all the new subscribers and Yahoo Group members! We are thrilled to have more road trip enthusiasts join the growing list of AMERICAN ROAD subscribers and Yahoo Group members. The AMERICAN ROAD magazine Yahoo Group was named as a Yahoo Editor's Pick this month! Congratulations and many thanks go out to Pat and Jennifer Bremmer, the AMERICAN ROAD Yahoo Group moderators. We hope you are enjoying the Summer 2005 issue of AMERICAN ROAD. It mailed initially to subscribers near the latter half of May and should have arrived in your mailbox. A supplemental mailing went out in June. We are in the process of preparing a second supplemental mailing which should go out the week of July 12. Other happenings at AMERICAN ROAD magazine: AMERICAN ROAD magazine is now available in various Borders Book Stores! We are bringing our mailing fulfillment in-house to improve customer service. There will be a few days of down time this coming week while we upload the files and set up the new database. We are working on making improvements that will allow us to better serve our subscribers. In the mean time, if you have received a subscription renewal notice, and have not yet sent in your payment, please either mail the renewal to: AMERICAN ROAD, LLC, PO BOX 46519, MT CLEMENS, MI 48046. or call toll-free at 1-877-285-5434, or visit our web site at <http://www.mockturtlepress.com./.> The Autumn 2005 issue is scheduled to mail to subscribers sometime in August--and should arrive before mid-September. The Autumn issue is devoted to roads designated as Scenic Byways--perfect timing to plan your colorful Fall road trip. IN THIS AMERICAN ROAD E-NEWSLETTER: -Lincoln Highway Association Conference in Ely, Nevada -AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA (Question #1) -US ROUTE 20 IN NEW YORK DESIGNATED AS SCENIC BYWAY -CLASSIFIEDS -WHO'S DRIVING CONTEST -OHIO LINCOLN HIGHWAY BECOMES A 241 MILE-LONG "BUY-WAY" THIS AUGUST -AMERICAN ROAD YAHOO GROUP -THE GHOST FROM THE EAST COAST -ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR A GIFT? -TRAVELERS CAN ONCE AGAIN GRAB A CUP OF JO AT THE BLUE MOON -WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU -ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC HISTORIC HIGHWAYS OR AUTO TRAILS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IN AMERICAN ROAD? -MANY THANKS TO THE ADVERTISERS IN AMERICAN ROAD -PARK PLACE: YOUR CURBSIDE CALENDAR -RENEWALS ---------- LINCOLN HIGHWAY ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE IN ELY, NEVADA (JUNE 7-11) Several AMERICAN ROAD staff members attended the 2005 Lincoln Highway Conference in Ely, Nevada: Gregory Franzwa, Lee and Jane Whiteley, Dick Bublitz, Bob Campbell, and Thomas Repp and myself. A number of AMERICAN ROAD subscribers also attended the event--it was great to meet all of them! A few conference highlights: A visit from Will Rogers (actually Doug Watson an excellent Will Rogers impersonator) kicked off the event at a jam-pac,ked welcome dinner. The next day . . . The AMERICAN ROAD van was quite a site traveling between the three touring buses that took attendees on a journey that included 1919 (unpaved) alignment of the highway. However, the port-a-potties on wheels" that trailed behind the dust clouds kicked up by the caravan (to accommodate approximately 150 people as we traversed the desert) made the site even more incredible! Thursday a new Lincoln Highway pole marker--a replica of the early markers- -was dedicated in Ely, in front of the Chamber of Commerce. The awards banquet that evening capped off a great day, where we learned the 2006 conference will be held in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. We hope to see you there! Look for pictures in the Friends in the Fast Lane department in the next issue of AMERICAN ROAD. AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA The FOURTH and the TENTH person to respond to me via e-mail (becky@mockturtlepress.com) with the correct answer to the trivia question below wins a copy of "LEWIS AND CLARK" by (Published by Motorbooks International, retail price $29.95). Ready, set, go! Trivia Question: Next to Mount Rushmore, what are the two most photographed statues in America? (Hint: They are in the Spring 2005 (Volume 3 #1) issue of AMERICAN ROAD magazine.) *Special thanks to the above sponsor of the AMERICAN ROAD TWO-LANE TRIVIA QUESTION. US ROUTE 20 IN NEW YORK DESIGNATED AS SCENIC BYWAY A bill sponsored by Assemblyman Bill Magee (D-Nelson) and Senator James Seward (R-Milford) to designate New York State Route 20 from Duanesburg to LaFayette an official scenic byway has passed the Senate and the Assembly! The 123-mile corridor includes portions of US Route 20 and Otsego County Route 54 from the intersection of Route 20 with Interstate 1-88 through seven counties to its intersection with Interstate 81. Portions of New York's earliest state-chartered roads--the First and Third Great Western Turnpikes as well as portions of highway developed in the 1930s--follow this same path. With this designation, the communities along Route 20 through which the scenic byway passes gain increased economic benefits through promotion of tourism, improved traveler and community services, and support for managing and maintaining these resources. This boost is welcomed by communities on the route--many of whom were bypassed by the Throughway in the 1950s. CLASSIFIEDS (Contact our Ad Director, Dick Bublitz, at 1-877-285-5434 x31 for information on this affordable advertising option). Mobil Travel Guide provides consumers recommendations they can trust! Visit <http://www.mobiltravelguide.com/> or call 1-866-MOBILTG to order our Regional Travel Planners, On the Road with Your Pet, or the America's Byways series. While you're online don't miss the Road Trip Planner options to help customize your trip and book hotel reservations. ====== NATIONAL HISTORIC ROUTE 66 FEDERATION. CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE <http://www.national66.org/> . Find answers to frequently asked questions about Route 66 . Shop for dozens of Route 66 items . Make reservations for Route 66 events . Look through the Route 66 photo and vintage postcard galleries . Join the National Historic Route 66 Federation. ====== NEBRASKA: Get your free Nebraska travel packet with information on attractions, frontier adventures, natural wonders, arts and culture, scenic byways, weekend getaways, golf, lodgings, things to see & do, plus over a thousand festivals and events. Nebraska. Possibilities...endless. 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Don't miss the Dinosaur Museum, Historical Museum, Route 66 Memorial, neon signs, and the nation's longest Route 66 mural. Tour the town to see the murals of our area. Travel to Ute or Conchas Lake and along the Scenic Byways to see unique landscapes and wildlife. Contact the Chamber at 505-461-1694 for information or visit <http://www.tucumcarinm.com./.> ====== 101 CAFE: Get a free nostalgia trip on Historic Highway 101 by way of the 101 Cafe. This site will educate, entertain and connect you to Historic Highway 101 History, Images, Attractions, Natural wonders, Arts and Surf culture, Lodgings, Things to See & Do. <http://www.101cafe.net./.> ====== **Remember to tell them you saw them in AMERICAN ROAD's e-newsletter! WHO'S DRIVING Don't forget to enter the WHO'S DRIVING contest on page 7 of the Summer 2005 issue of AMERICAN ROAD. All correct answers received before the Autumn 2005 issue goes to press will be entered into the drawing for the prize (the ROUTE 66 DVD COLLECTION BY PACCOM FILMS--VALUED AT 49.95!). OHIO LINCOLN HIGHWAY BECOMES A 241 MILE-LONG "BUY-WAY" THIS AUGUST Coming in August, you will be able to shop from east to west or vice versa across Ohio for just about any bargain you can dream of. The Ohio Lincoln Highway Heritage Corridor (OLHHC) is planning a first-ever yard sale across the state...from Thursday, August 11 through Saturday, August 13. Executive Director Mike Hocker said, "we know that Route 127 Corridor's 'Longest Yard Sale' has been successful over the years, creating lots of fun and increased spending along that road, and so when Forest, Ohio's village administrator, Chuck Brunkhart proposed this idea, many of the CVBs and chambers along the Lincoln Highway Historic Byway got enthusiastic about having our own "Buy-Way" corridor." "We plan to organize for Ohio this year, but it is only natural to extend it across the eleven Lincoln Highway states next year for the first Transcontinental Yard Sale...3,390 miles across the U.S.!" People interested in attending or participating should call the OLHHC at 419- 468-6773. AMERICAN ROAD YAHOO GROUP If you haven't already signed up for the AMERICAN ROAD yahoo group, now is the time. Share stories with other road enthusiasts. You can sign up for this FREE group when you visit our web site at <http://www.mockturtlepress.com./.> THE GHOST FROM THE EAST COAST BUYS PALISADE, NEVADA The sale of Palisade, the Nevada Ghost Town, at Greg Martin Auctions on April 26 went very well and far exceeded the expectations of the consignors. There was a large amount of interest - over 2000 people viewed Lot 2512 on the Internet and several hundred were signed up to bid, including by phone and online. In fact, interest surged at the last minute after numerous media ran this unusual and engaging story, the public's awareness was piqued, and telephone calls on the Ghost Town came flooding in to Greg Martin Auctions a few days prior to the sale. The hammer price for the +160-acre Ghost Town of Palisade was $150,000, which was sold promptly at 2 pm PDT at Greg Martin Auctions gallery in San Francisco. (A Buyer's Premium adds another 12.5%, for a total price realized of $168,750.) The winning bid was made by telephone. The buyer is someone from the East who prefers not to be identified by name - rather, as he said, only as "the Ghost from the East Coast." Palisade's sellers' John Sexton and his brother Frank were very excited with the sale's results, particularly when the bidding went past $100,000. In contrast, John Sexton noted his mother had been offered $30,000 for the property in 1994 by a descendant of someone buried in the Palisade cemetery. Sexton hasn't been out to the property since 1972 when he was 16 years old, but he has very distinct memories of the Ghost Town from past visits - of the fragrant smell of sage in the air after the rain, of Mason jars still filled with preserves in the ruins of old cellars, and of many rattlesnakes coiled up in the sun as his family drove by. According to Greg Martin after the sale, the East Coast buyer is not quite sure what he is going to do with the Palisade Ghost Town, but he bought it because it "struck his fancy." "This is not just a bare piece of land with nothing on it," said Martin. "This is a historic property, and just like a collector's item, it has a unique provenance. Palisade is not just dirt, it's history." Located 27 miles southwest of Elko in northeast Nevada's Eureka County, the town of Palisade has an intriguing and event-filled past in its short history, most of it tied to the boom-&-bust times of the railroad in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR A GIFT? Search no more. American Road is the perfect gift that they will enjoy all year long! Order today by calling toll-free 1-877-285-5434, or order on-line (www.mockturtlepress.com). We will send a gift notice-and we can personalize it with a message from you! We also now have GIFT CERTIFICATES (available in $5.00 increments)! They may be used by the recipient to purchase subscriptions, back issues, or any item in the Hitching Post. And, don't forget all the great gift ideas advertised in AMERICAN ROAD! Tell them you saw it in AMERICAN ROAD! TRAVELERS CAN ONCE AGAIN GRAB A CUP OF JO AT THE BLUE MOON The Gilmore Car Museum, near Kalamazoo, MI, begins its 39th season with the opening of three new exhibit buildings and its authentic 1941 Diner. For nearly 60 years and countless cups of coffee the Blue Moon Diner was a Connecticut roadside landmark. Last summer this remarkably well preserved piece of roadside Americana traveled over 790 miles to its new home at the Gilmore Car Museum, where it has been restored and will again serve guests typical diner fare. The new exhibit buildings, each resembling a historic barn, were completed last year and increased the size of the museum by nearly fifty percent. With over 240 vehicles under the Museum's stewardship, the expanded facility was a necessity-they had simply run out of space. Visitors can anticipate seeing nearly 200 autos arranged by decades in the new exhibits as well as "Kalamazoo-the OTHER Motor City," featuring automobiles such as the Checker, Roamer, and Barley, which were built in the nearby Kalamazoo. One of the new structures was built for the Pierce-Arrow Museum and houses several examples of the famed Pierce-Arrow luxury cars. The second new structure is an octagonal addition to the 1890s barn that is home to the Classic Car Club of America Museum. If you're planning to stop in the museum on Sunday, July 10, 2005 you will experience the fifteenth "invasion" by the British to strike the Gilmore Car Museum in the same number of years as the Museum will once again serve as the site for the Mad Dogs & Englishmen's British Auto Faire, open to the public from 9 am to 5 pm. This annual car show presents the largest gathering of British-built automobiles and motorcycles of all eras, from luxury models and sports cars to this year's featured make - Sunbeam. At this year's auto faire, spectators are sure to see many fine examples from Jaguar, Aston Martin, and Rolls Royce, as well as Triumph, MG, Land Rover and others. The Gilmore Car Museum opened for the 2005 season on May 1st with daily hours of 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 pm and until 6 pm on weekends. Located in the heart of west Michigan, the museum is midway between Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, and Battle Creek, on M-43 and Hickory Road. To learn more about the Gilmore Car Museum visit: http://<http:///> www.GilmoreCarMuseum.org or call the museum at 269-671-5089. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU We welcome your correspondence and questions. Have you paid a recent visit to one or more of the places mentioned in a previous issue of AMERICAN ROAD? We want to hear about it. We love receiving your cards, letters and e- mails. You may send us a letter or e-mail. Send letters via US mail to: American Road PO Box 46519 Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 You may send e-mails to becky@mockturtlepress.com. (Letters and e-mail may be published in an upcoming issue of AMERICAN ROAD and may be edited for style and available space.) ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC HISTORIC HIGHWAYS OR AUTO TRAILS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT IN AMERICAN ROAD? Let us know. We review reader input when planning our feature schedule. MANY THANKS TO THE ADVERTISERS IN AMERICAN ROAD They help make AMERICAN ROAD possible. When you patronize them be sure to tell them you saw them in AMERICAN ROAD: (Listed alphabetically) Arapahoe, NE - <http://www.arapahoe-ne.com/> Chicago Southland Convention & Visitors Bureau - <http://www.visitchicagosouthland.com/> Cody, WY (Buffalo Bill's Cody/Yellowstone Country) - <http://www.yellowstonecountry.org/> Ely Northern Railway/White Pine Chamber - <http://www.nnry.com/> Flashback Malt Shoppe & Gifts - <http://www.flashbackinseaside.com/> Fleming, CO - http://www.bestrockymountainoysters.com<http://www.bestrockymountainoysters.com/ > Fond du Lac, WI - <http://www.fdl.com/> Gilmore Car Museum - <http://www.gilmorecarmuseum.org/> Heritage Corridor, Illinois - <http://www.heritagecorridorcvb.com/> Historic National Road, Illinois - <http://www.nationalroad.org/> Jeff Herman, Sign Collector Lincoln Highway Trading Post - <http://www.lhtp.com/> Logan County, CO - <http://www.logancountychamber.org/> Missouri Division of Tourism - <http://www.visitmo.com/> Mobil Travel Guide - <http://www.mobiltravelguide.com/> Motorbooks International - <http://www.motorbooks.com/> Munger Moss Motel - <http://www.mungermoss.com/> National Historic Route 66 Federation - <http://www.national66.org/> Noble County Convention & Visitors Bureau - <http://www.visitnoblecounty.com/> Ohio's Historic West - <http://www.ohioshistoricwest.com/> Oklahoma Route 66 Association - <http://www.oklahomaroute66.com/> 101 Cafe -<http://www.101cafe.net/> Ollie's Shirt Factory Oshkosh Convention & Visitors Bureau - <http://www.oshkoshcvb.org/> Paccom Films - <http://www.66films.com/> Pennsylvania Route 6 - <http://www.paroute6.com/> Roadside Gallery - <http://www.roadsidegallery.com/> Roadworks Gifts & Souvenirs - <http://www.route66roadworks.com/> Stackpole Books - <http://www.stackpolebooks.com/> Stevens Point Plover - <http://www.stevenspointarea.com/> Tony Craig Art Gallery - <http://www.tonycraig.net/> Tucumcari on 66 - <http://www.tucumcarinm.com/> Twisters 50s Soda Fountain - <http://www.rout66place.com/> US Route 6 Tourist Association - <http://www.route6tour.com/> University of New Mexico Press - <http://www.unmpress/> Yellowstone Trail Association - <http://www.yellowstonetrail.org/> PARK PLACE: Your curbside calendar (to submit your events for the calendar e-mail becky@mockturtlepress.com. Calendar listings are offered on a first come, first serve basis.) July 3, 2005 - August 21, 2005, Montezuma, KS-Smith Kramer traveling exhibition "Return to Route 66: Photographs from the Mother Road by Shellee Graham". The Stuath Memorial Museum is proud to host this display that captures the essence of the Mother Road. Visit the museum's website at http://<http:///> www.stauthmemorialmuseum.org for a brief overview of the exhibition or phone (620)846-2527. July 8-10, Seaside, Oreg.-Bikefest at Seaside. Going Coastal on US 101? Go to Seaside-one of the oldest vacation destinations on the West coast. You'll find a bike show, welcome party, the beach, vendors, live entertainment,and an opportunity to win a new Harley Davidson Sportster Motorcycle. Proceeds benefit prostate cancer research. Call 503-717-8530 or check out http:/ /www.flashbackinseaside.com for details. July 10, Collinsville, Ill.-The World's Largest Catsup Bottle Summerfest Birthday Party & Car Show Bash. Travelers on the National Road will find fun for the whole family at this event! Don't forget to enter your 3-6 year old in the Little Princess Tomato or Little Sir Catsup pageant. Be sure to pay staffers a visit at the AMERICAN ROAD booth. Brought to you by -Downtown Collinsville, Inc. Main Street Program. Phone 618.345.5598. Visit http://<http:///> www.catsupbottlesummerfest.com. July 14. Everett, Ohio-Everett Road Covered Bridge Dance. Join Strings and Things and caller Carol Kopp for the annual covered bridge dance. The fun starts at 7:00 pm. Come for the music or the dance-be sure to dress comfortably and wear sturdy shoes! Suggested donation is $6.00. Contact Cuyahoga Valley National Park 1-800-445-9667. July 17th, Seattle Wash.-The 2005 Fairview Car Show Festival. Come enjoy an afternoon (10 am to 3 pm) of cool cars, fun friends, activities for the kids, and great music from the 50s, 60s, and 70s! Located at 844 NE 78th Street. (Registration fee for cars; spectators are free.) Proceeds go to Northwest Hospital. Call 206-363-5884 to register cars. July 17-23. Freedom Road Rally will host a week long vintage car road rally traveling the back roads and highways of America's heartland. Vehicles, ranging in years from 1903 to 1974 qualify. The entry fee for the 2005 event will be $1,400 which will include hotels, admission into various transportation museums, and some dinners. Visit <http://www.freedomroadrally.com/> for details. AUGUST 6-7. Pontiac, Ill.-Rock `N Rods on Route 66. Cars, motorcycles and more! See the world's wildest motorcycle-Roadog and a rare exhibit-an original 1948 Tucker Torpedo. Take a trolley ride to the Illinois Route 66 Museum and be entertained by several live bands including the Fireballs (#1 hit Sugar Shack). Visit <http://www.rocknrodson66.com./.> August 20. Huntington Woods, Mich.-The Woodward Dream Cruise. Enjoy a classic car show featuring over 30,000 classic cars. This annual event covers 16 miles along Woodward Avenue-America's first paved street. Sponsored by the cities of Berkley, Birmingham, Ferndale, Huntington Ridge, Pleasant Ridge, Pontiac and Royal Oak the event includes music, activities for the kids, a sock hop and plenty of food. Call 1-888-4WDC-1963. September 9 - 11, Flagstaff, Ariz.-Flagstaff Route 66 Days ~ The first annual event that celebrates the heart of Route 66 in Flagstaff. Beat the desert heat and join us for the fun in the pines in the legendary Arizona High Country. Something for everybody! Cars, Motorcycles, Entertainment, Food, Drink, Prizes and Surprises! <http://www.flagstaffroute66days.com./.> September 10. Barstow Calif. ~ The Miss Route 66 Pageant 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. at Gil's Place, downtown Main Street (Route 66!). The Pageant is open to all ages, for anyone who has traveled along route 66 with twelve divisions from children - seniors. No duties are required, custom Route 66 Crowns, Route 66 tiaras and empbroidered sashes, Route 66 medallions, and opportunity to participate in the San Bernardino Rendezvous 2005 are part of the prize package. Contestants may wear sports attire and Route 66 "heyday" costumes are welcome. Pictures of the 2004/2005 royalty and more info may be found at the Barstow Route 66 Mother Road Museum 760-255-1890 or contact Kris Watson September 9, 10, 11. Springfield, Missouri.- FESTIVAL 66: The Route 66 Association of Missouri's 15th Annual Motor Tour commences in Springfield, MO and ends at the Red Cedar Inn in Pacific, MO. Tour registration starts at 4:00 p.m. Friday (9/9) at the Rail Haven Motel in Springfield. Events include a poker Run to Cuba, dinner Saturday night at the Fairgrounds in Cuba, a tour of Bob' s Gasoline Alley and the Crawford County Historical Society and Museum. The Motor Tour ends with a lunch at the Red Cedar Inn. An excellent chance to see the "Show Me" State with your fellow 66ers! For information please contact Jane Dippel (314-843-7132) E-mail: Vestaon66@cs.com. September 10. Lebanon, Missouri.-Fifth Annual Route 66 Festival. Rev up your engines at this festival. Festivities take place at the Library and Museum located on South Jefferson and enjoy the car parade and car show. Numerous showings of American Graffiti will run throughout the day. Meet Route 66 authors and be sure to stop by the AMERICAN ROAD booth! Contact Gail Bryant at the Civic Center for details at 417-532-4642. September 15-18, San Bernardino, Calif.-San Bernardino Rendezvous, The 16th annual San Bernardino Rendezvous highlights include the Route 66 Hall of Fame, and the John Steinbeck Awards Banquet, sponsored by the Historic Route 66 Federation. AMERICAN ROAD magazine staff will be at the event-just look for the folks wearing the American Road denim shirts! September 11-16. Red Lodge, Mont.-Going to the Sun Rally. Shift into full gear and take a vintage auto tour across Montana highlighting the Beartooth Highway, Yellowstone National Park and Glacier National Park's Going to the Sun Road. Up to thirty teams may enter the event (driver and co-driver) in cars built in 1969 or earlier. Entry fees for each team, $2,500, cover all accommodations, meals, entertainment, trip support and emergency services. The trip will benefit the Montana charities. September 17-18. Everett, Penn.-Tenth (almost) Annual Lincoln Highway Road Rally "Murder on the Lincoln Highway." In addition to experiencing the exhibits, murals and pumps that are part of the Lincoln Highway 200-Mile Roadside Museum, attendees will test their crime solving abilities with a Lincoln Highway Murder Mystery during dinner in Chambersburg on the 17th. Clues will be at each exhibit stop on the way to Chambersburg that evening. The cost is $40 for adults and $15 for children. Contact the Lincoln Highway Heritage Corridor at 724-238-9030 to register and for information on lodging. September 23. Stroud, Okla.-Celebrating 66 years on Route 66-Long live the Rock Cafe! The Rock Cafe big birthday celebration will be for the whole weekend.Events are being planned now. For more information visit the web site: www.rockcaferoute66.com. September 24. Azusa, Calif.-The 3rd Annual Neon Sign Fall Cruise. All motorists are invited to enjoy this annual after-dark sightseeing tour along Route 66 across five inland California Foothill cities. Arrive anytime from 6:30 to 9:00 P.M. for check-in. Using the new Five-city Route 66 Neon Cruise brochure proceed at your own pace to a midcourse stop hosted by Vons, then the final destination at the Elks Lodge in Pomona. Proceeds help Route 66 Tourism put up more illuminated signs along Route 66. For more information contact Bob Lundy, 909-383-1256(T&F) or <http://www.route66tourism.org./.> October 16-19. 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Guest Russell S. Rein Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 One of my treats while roadtripping in Indiana and Ohio is being able to get a Tenderloin sandwich - they even had 'em at McDonalds in Fort Wayne! Can't find em' anywhere in Michigan and folks from here don't know anything about it. slim "......we'll treat you to a tenderloin at The Diner on the westside." ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Conkle Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 We have openings for Authors/Artists/Vendors/Associations at this year’s event to be held on September 16th thru 19th. If anyone is interested contact me or Helen Baker for more information. Or come and show your car, be a spectator or just to have fun. Hopefully all the people involved with the road will be here in 2005 but why not come this year too. James M Conkle Executive Director & Chairman of the Board California Route 66 Preservation Foundation P O Box 290066 Phelan, CA 92329-0066 760 617 3991 cell 760 868 3320 760 868 8614 fax HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org www.cart66pf.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi all....Finally back home and settled after being away since June 25. We had a great time at the Route 66 Classic Car Show in Litchfield, IL on the 25th. Although it was a bit muggy that day, the trip out US 40 and through some various state & county roads between Effingham and Litchfield was enjoyable. Jennifer & I had dinner at the Ariston Cafe that evening with Tom & Susan Miller, Randy & Melody May, Jim Ross, and Shellee Graham before heading to the Sky View Drive In for a showing of American Grafitti, with stars Paul Lemat and Cindy Williams in attendence. Sunday, it was on to Cedar Rapids, Iowa for a regional Corvair convention there. I was travelling solo on this Iowa trip, so I said good bye to Jennifer and the Corvairs of mine and the Millers 66'd up to Springfield, then took the "Evil I" from Springfield to Quincy, IL, where we took some of the Great River Road up to Niota, IL where we crossed into Iowa at Ft. Madison for lunch (where I had an Iowa chop sammich). From there we meandered our way over to US 218 and took it up to Cedar Rapids, arriving around 4pm. After my travel mates and I checked into our motel, I decided to venture out and drive up to where the convention was to be held at the Marriott. Since the convention didn't officially start until Tuesday, I wasn't sure if there would be anyone there yet. I did find 3 other Corvairs in the parking lot, and to my luck one known in the Corvair community as "Darth Vair", owned by Chuck Armer of Georgia: http://www.corvaircorsa.com/armer01.html This was my first chance to see a car I've heard a lot about, and as the link shows, it's a nearly flawless 40 year old beauty (It placed 1st in Concours at the convention). Chuck's car is the standard by which I plan on modeling the restoration of my '65 after. Monday, it was off to Marshalltown, Iowa for a little racing. There were 20-some Corvairs on hand for time trials at a local carting track out there. We took US 30 out on the 75 mile trip from CR. After witnessing an afternoon of racing, I left early and made my way back east and explored some old alignments of the Lincoln Highway. I had to use some of my own instincts to figure out where some of the alignments were, as, unfortunately, Iowa's Lincoln Highway signage has a lot of catching up to do in comparison to Illinois. But my instincts were on target most of the time. I found the old Lincoln Highway bridge in Tama, IA, which helped me retrace the LH back to the west: http://www.lincolnhighwayassoc.org/info/ia/tama_bridge.jpg Back in CR, I made my way up to the Marriott to register for the show and mingle with some of the 18 members from my local Corvair club that also made the trip to CR. Strong storms made there way through in the evening, but had departed before the end of the night. Tuesday was show day. The Concours, People's Choice, and Valve Cover races were going on that day. I entered my valve cover racer, but got knocked out in the 2nd Round by a kid. Oh well, my racer's still undefeated on my "home track". After checking out the 100-plus cars on hand and rummaging through the parts the vendors brought, we made our way to the Cedar Brewing Company for dinner: http://www.cedarbrewing.com We finished off the evening in the parking lot around the cars talking "Corvair stuff". Wednesday was the Economy Run, where there were 20-some cars entered. Basically, an "econo run" tests the mileage of your car on a route provided by the convention. The 83.7 mile route took me through the rolling hills (no, not ALL of Iowa is flat!) of east central Iowa. All the entrants had to fill up at the same gas station. They are then given the route instructions (I *really* could've used a navigator with me!) and a car is released from the starting line every 3 minutes. My '65 did really well, as I "nursed" the throttle and had the windows rolled up the whole trip...and no, I don't have AC and it was in the mid 80's when I completed the course! After I returned to the gas station, an official filled up my tank with 2.767 gallons, which came out to 30.2 mpg. They had the cars in 2 classes: Automatics and Manual transmissions. At the time I refueled I was sitting in 3rd place in the Automatic class. So I was pretty happy with my car's performance. Later in the afternoon the week was catching up with me, so I went back to the motel and called it a day at 5. After a nap, I took off on my own and drove around CR to check out what the city had to offer. I did find some decent neon that you'll find posted on our website, when I get around to scanning the 6 rolls of film I took this week! Thursday was road rally day. Since I didn't have a navigator with me this week, I road with Tom & Susan. It was fun...a lot like the econo run, but we were given a list of "fill in the blanks" from signs we'd be encountering on the trip. We think we did pretty well, but haven't heard the results, since we didn't stick around for Friday night's banquet. Thursday night was a designated cruise-in night, where we caravaned to a local cruise-in at an auto parts store. We had 37 Corvairs make the trek to the show. Back at the motel, Tom & I encountered some young lads who were glad to see us. They're in the process of making an independent film called "30 The Movie". It's about a 30 year old guy who comes across some money, jumps in his Corvair, and takes US 30 from Atlantic City to Oregon. They just happened to end their filming for the day in Cedar Rapids and had no idea there was a Corvair convention in town, as they had their '65 on a trailer. They were glad to see us because they were having transmission troubles and they needed some help. We told them the vendors would still be at the Marriott Friday morning and the racing guys who could help them work on it would be at the nearby speedway. So they were glad they happened to be staying at the same motel we were, or else they'd never had known there were 300 other Corvair enthusiasts in town. Here's a link to their site: http://30themovie.com/ Friday it was time to leave...but not after some more racing. Temps were actually pleasant in the morning, in comparison to the 90's it had been throughout the week. The Autocross was held at Hawkeye Downs, a half mile paved oval on the south side of CR. There were nearly 30 Corvairs on hand. I knew I couldn't stay for the whole event, as I had to get on the road back to Indiana by 11 am. I stuck around long enough to see the first 2 groups make their runs, highlighted by Warren Leveque's tricked-out 1960 Corvair, which circled the 1/2 mile oval and 1/4 mile oval in 39 seconds. The circuit consisted of a trip around the 1/2 mile oval, then blend into the 1/4 mile oval, both together consisting of 1 lap. Warren can be looked at as the Mario Andretti in the Corvair racing community. Anything he gets in, he makes it go fast...faster than anyone else can. I hit the road and took US 30 east through Iowa, and crossed into Illinois at Clinton, where I then hooked up with US 52 and took it back to Indy from there. I made a stop at the Launching Pad in Wilmington, IL for a shake, then sidetracked to Braidwood for a burger & onion rings at the Polka Dot Drive-In...I like to spread the wealth. :-) Finally pulled into Indy a little after 9pm, just in time to get enough sleep for another trip! We had planned on taking a little July 4th weekend trip so we could both get away, since I went solo to Iowa. I left it to Jennifer where we'd go, and the winner was: Nashville, TN. We had been through there, but never stopped there, so we decided to check it out since it was just a 300 mile trip. We took US 421 out of Indy and made a stop in Madison, IN for some fudge at our favorite fudge shop: http://madisonfudgefactory.com/ The Madison Regatta was happening this weekend, so we got to see some of the power boats doing their thing on the Ohio River as we crossed on 421. We took that down to the Bluegrass Parkway in Kentucky over to US 31W. We stopped off at the Wigwam Village in Cave City, only to find a banner stating "Back By Popular Demand...Under New Management". This made us a little nervous, as we knew how hard owner Ivan John worked to bring the Wigwam back to its former glory. We found a young man, appearing to be in his 20's, behind the counter. We had brought the American Road issue from last year that featured the Wigwam as the Memory Motel to give to Ivan. We asked the young man if he was the owner and he said he and his uncle were. They purchased it from Ivan this past April, as he retired and moved to Hawaii. We showed him the magazine, told him who we were, and he seemed very grateful we brought the magazine by. He seemed like a bright guy, so Jennifer & I seemed to think later Ivan wouldn't have sold it to anyone who didn't share his vision. Time will tell. We rolled into Nashville early in the evening and finally found a good mom & pop motel on US 70S in town. The Midway Motel was a nice little place, as the owner graciously let us look at a room first. It was clean, no bugs, and the king size bed had its own zip code! However, just looking for picture of the place on Google, I found a story where someone was murdered there last August...3 rooms down from ours. Gee, that soiled our view of the place! OK, we then went downtown to Broadway where all the honky tonks are. The crowd down there was unique...a mix of halter tops and cowboy hats, women passing out passes to their "clubs", and a couple of party buses driving around. The neon was pretty good though. We ate dinner at the Hard Rock Cafe and then called it a night. Sunday we headed west out of Nashville on US 70. Don't ask me to retrace this route, as it covered just about every state and US highway between Nashville and Frankfort, KY! Jennifer had some fun with Streets & Trips planning this trip, but it was worth it in the end. We saw some awesome scenery that you wouldn't have seen on the interstate...and we even ran over a snake slithering across the road. Just don't anyone tell Bob Waldmire about it, OK? And thanks to Denny Gibson, we stopped in at Penn's Store for some good local chat: http://www.pennsstore.com/ The place is as deep in the hills of Kentucky as one could get, but the stop was worth it. We then headed toward the town of High Bridge, KY. Named after the railroad bridge crossing the Kentucky River: http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_170_so_young's_high_bridge_ty rone_ky_1977.jpg It was getting late in the day, and although we had intended on being back in Indy by nightfall, we were looking at 11 pm at the earliest, so we decided to find a place for the night. We pulled off at a motel off US 31 in Clarksville, IN. Today, we took US 150 west and had a decent breakfast at Frannie's Diner in Palmyra, IN. We were getting anxious to get home, so we took IN-337 to Orleans where we jumped on IN-37 up to Indy, with a stop in Bedford for frozen custard. So here I am after spending well over an hour on this post, 4 pieces of pizza later, and 2 cherry Pepsis. This just might be the longest note ever on this group! I'll post a note in the weeks to come when I get all my pics from the past 10 days scanned and up on our website. Until then, see ya down the road! Pat B. Speedway, IN http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R. Droz Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 My list of what you should bring: Camera. AAA or other national Auto Club Card. Road Atlas. Swim Trunks. Recharagable NiMH batteries with a Car recharger. Flashlight. A personal timewaster like a book or video game. -- ___________________________________________________________ Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__ Robert V. Droz ( us98@earthlink.net ) [____________][___ U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__ http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() () Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Sorry but Zanesville is another one of those semi-nearby places where I've never spent the night. Baker's looks OK and I think it would the first place I'd look if I needed a bed in Zanesville but I have absolutely no personal experience with it. You should also know that I'm not a 5 star hotel sort of guy. I do have one picture but the motel wasn't the primary subject. The picture was taken from the grounds of the museum (so that shows how close it is) for use in a panorama of the museum and the two highways it sits between. The panorama is at http://www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip5/index.htm#section4 and a somewhat higher resolution version of just the motel is at http://www.dennygibson.com/dt/BM-ZV.jpeg --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:58 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Zanesville OH/National Road motels > > > Jabba, > I've been by it a couple of times (never stayed), but the Baker's a 5 sta > Motel is right across the street from the Zane Grey Museum between > Zanesville and Cambridge. It's an oldie, but I'm not certain of its > quality. Perhaps we have some Buckeyes who can elaborate? Here's their > website: http://www.bakersmotel.com/ > > > Pat B. > Speedway, IN > http://roadtripmemories.com > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "okydokey89" <okydokey@a...> > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > We are planning a weekend trip to do some of the National Road in > OH. > > I got info for Zanesville and saw advertisements for the Nighty-Nite > > and Sycamore motels. Has anyone stayed there or have any pictures or > > comments? Would appreciate any input! > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > Jabba > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Worley Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well, that didn't take long... ( --- woshicctv9 <woshicctv9@yahoo.com> wrote: > I found a best place for Older Women and Younger Men, or Older men > and Younger women to interact with each other. > Generation gap is not a problem here, but a great merit to romantic > singles right here __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Johnsen Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Denny, That sounds like a great route that the landrunner has planned for you. I have a few things to add... 1.) Remember that the Wigwam Motel is in Holbrook. I'd try to plan an overnight stop there. I loved it, but that was back in 1990, so if anyone has more recent experience, please chime in. 2.) Be sure to allow extra time if you run 89A (which is also signed with brown & white historic US 89A signs) from Cottonwood to Prescott. The road snakes its way up through Jerome and over Mingus Mountain (a climb of 3,500 feet on the east side). It's a fantastic drive, but the hairpins will slow you down quite a bit. As you're driving up, just remember that I rode a bicycle there, which was a whole lot slower! Prescott is a nice city with lots of history and a neat courthouse square. 3.) SR 260 is also a great drive if you want to cut some distance (unless your heart is set on 66). From Eagar, it goes up over 9,000 feet into the White Mountains, then runs along the Mogollon Rim (up and down it a few times), all through national forests. It's much more scenic than I-40, but there isn't as much roadside development. It depends on what you're looking for. The only catch is that you'll hit 89A in Cottonwood where you'll have to choose between going north to Sedona or south to Prescott. 4.) For explorations in Arizona or elsewhere in the West, I highly recommend GTR Mapping's topographic recreational maps. They are very detailed with many backroads. http://www.gtrmapping.com/topo_rec_maps/topo_rec_maps.html If you want to check out some photos from Eagar to Prescott by way of SR 260, SR 89A and SR 89, please visit my cross-country bicycle tour web site. Eagar was on Day 54: http://www.targetedsoftware.com/cycling/c2c/photos/0421.html SR 89A and Prescott were on Day 58: http://www.targetedsoftware.com/cycling/c2c/photos/0425.html And of course, you're welcome to check out the entire trip, which has daily reports and many roadside photos: http://www.targetedsoftware.com/cycling/c2c/index.html --Dave Johnsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hey Denny, I remember my 1st year in Jr High School..and during summer break, my family and I stopped off in Zanesville for the night going cross country to California. Not much to talk about either,except for the very wet weather and for the small flood we had in the back of our Mercury station wagon :/ Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:Sorry but Zanesville is another one of those semi-nearby places where I've never spent the night. Baker's looks OK and I think it would the first place I'd look if I needed a bed in Zanesville but I have absolutely no personal experience with it. You should also know that I'm not a 5 star hotel sort of guy. I do have one picture but the motel wasn't the primary subject. The picture was taken from the grounds of the museum (so that shows how close it is) for use in a panorama of the museum and the two highways it sits between. The panorama is at http://www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip5/index.htm#section4 and a somewhat higher resolution version of just the motel is at http://www.dennygibson.com/dt/BM-ZV.jpeg --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:58 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Zanesville OH/National Road motels > > > Jabba, > I've been by it a couple of times (never stayed), but the Baker's a 5 sta > Motel is right across the street from the Zane Grey Museum between > Zanesville and Cambridge. It's an oldie, but I'm not certain of its > quality. Perhaps we have some Buckeyes who can elaborate? Here's their > website: http://www.bakersmotel.com/ > > > Pat B. > Speedway, IN > http://roadtripmemories.com > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "okydokey89" <okydokey@a...> > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > We are planning a weekend trip to do some of the National Road in > OH. > > I got info for Zanesville and saw advertisements for the Nighty-Nite > > and Sycamore motels. Has anyone stayed there or have any pictures or > > comments? Would appreciate any input! > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > Jabba > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mary Fairchild Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Willy,you should be a writer. You describe the scenery very well. Thanks for the (virtual) trip. Mary in NE Okla --- David Willy Willman <dwillman66@comcast.net> wrote: <<<snipped>>>> > My father's side is from So. Oregon, so we make this > drive > every other year all the way to Colorado through > Utah - Salt Lake. > Sometimes So Oregon through Reno East to Utah, > sometimes, So Oregon > East to Idaho then south, sometimes So Oregon using > Winnemucca to > the Ocean highway coming East though (Hwy 139/140 in > Oregon) > > Depending on where you are going/coming from...there > is some of the > most beautiful but desolate scenery here and > isolation at its best. > Great for a long motorcycle cruise. Fast Driving in > a hot car. > Or if you are making time in a Motorhome, a nice > nap. > I am usually for the first two, but have traveled > with family > who are into the latter. > > There are some hills, some sand dunes, some salt > dunes. > If you travelling US Highways - 93, 95, 97, 20, 30 > are all good > solid non cliff type drives for Motorhomes. If you > superslab I - 80, > there is just the great geology of the area in > Nevada into Utah, some > hill climbs and descents, but nothing too scary or > "cliffed". > > Heck, I have seen some interesting UFO objects in > the sky even. > The wildlife, though you may not think it is there, > is simply > awesome, if you take the time to look. I would look > up > the National Wildlife Refuges in the areas. > Wild horse, burros, antelope and elk along with > major bird > migration populations are abundent in these Wildlife > Refuges. > Great photo ops and bird watching. > > There are some mining exhibits to see in Nevada and > Utah. The > Lincoln Highway and old alignments to follow or > find. I have walked > in the Salt Lake Desert to feel the salt in my toes. > If you are > coming So. Oregon through > CA to Reno and over, Mount Shasta and the volcanic > region in NE > California off Hwy 97 is awesome if you are into > that. > > If you have "vertigo", the State Highways in Oregon, > Idaho and > Nevada, do have some twisting and winding, cliff > side drives, it > just depends on the highway. > > If you love casinos or casinos on Indian > Reservations, there are > plenty of those in Oregon, Nevada. Wendover, Utah is > a nice little > gambling town. Winnemucca, Nevada too...has the old > town charm. > Elko, Nevada is a great ole mining and railroad > town. > > The Bonneville Salt Flats in Western Utah are > something to see, if > people are a racing there. Try taking a car, and > going as fast as > humanly possible. It is a site to see a rocket car, > go 200-300mph > and kick up a bit of salt dust. > > If you go east to Idaho and south, US 20 and 30 > though desolate > drives, have an interesting desert charm, I have > seen rattlers > and antelope cross these roads before. If you decide > > Not sure what you are in to, but hope that helps. > Your roadie pal from Colorado, > > 66 Willy > Dave Willman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > "dianareesjohnson" > > <dianareesjohnson@y...> wrote: > > > Is there any way to find out what certain > roads are like ahead > of > > > time. We travel in a large motorhome. I have > vertigo (I > guess it __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I stopped at the museum a couple or so years back when I was headed for Illinois - but I cheated. I took the exit off I-70, drove down to get some photos of the S bridge, then went back to the museum. Somewhere in there I got a picture of a Mail Pouch Tobacco barn. The only problem with the museum is that there is absolutely so much to see and absorb - it's really well done and well maintained. Right down to the diorama documenting the history of the National Road from Indian Days to present. That's fascinating. Safe and Happy Travels, folks. Hudsonly, Alex B --- Larry <gttlblrry@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hey Denny, I remember my 1st year in Jr High > School..and during summer break, my family and I > stopped off in Zanesville for the night going cross > country to California. Not much to talk about > either,except for the very wet weather and for the > small flood we had in the back of our Mercury > station wagon :/ > > Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:Sorry but > Zanesville is another one of those semi-nearby > places where I've > never spent the night. Baker's looks OK and I think > it would the first place > I'd look if I needed a bed in Zanesville but I have > absolutely no personal > experience with it. You should also know that I'm > not a 5 star hotel sort of > guy. I do have one picture but the motel wasn't the > primary subject. The > picture was taken from the grounds of the museum (so > that shows how close it > is) for use in a panorama of the museum and the two > highways it sits > between. > > The panorama is at > http://www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip5/index.htm#section4 > and a somewhat higher resolution version of just the > motel is at > http://www.dennygibson.com/dt/BM-ZV.jpeg > > --Denny > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:58 PM > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Zanesville > OH/National Road motels > > > > > > Jabba, > > I've been by it a couple of times (never > stayed), but the Baker's a 5 > sta > > Motel is right across the street from the Zane > Grey Museum between > > Zanesville and Cambridge. It's an oldie, but I'm > not certain of its > > quality. Perhaps we have some Buckeyes who can > elaborate? Here's their > > website: http://www.bakersmotel.com/ > > > > > > Pat B. > > Speedway, IN > > http://roadtripmemories.com > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "okydokey89" > <okydokey@a...> > > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > We are planning a weekend trip to do some of the > National Road in > > OH. > > > I got info for Zanesville and saw advertisements > for the Nighty-Nite > > > and Sycamore motels. Has anyone stayed there or > have any pictures or > > > comments? Would appreciate any input! > > > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > > Jabba > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a > message via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I hope that isn't your only memory of Ohio & Zanesville. With history that includes Zanes Trace, the National Road, & US-40 plus that cool Y bridge, Zanesville is a real American Road sort of place. If you haven't already, you really ought to give it a look when it's not raining. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry [mailto:gttlblrry@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:58 AM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Zanesville OH/National Road motels > > Hey Denny, I remember my 1st year in Jr High School..and > during summer break, my family and I stopped off in > Zanesville for the night going cross country to California. > Not much to talk about either,except for the very wet weather > and for the small flood we had in the back of our Mercury > station wagon :/ > > Denny Gibson <denny@dennygibson.com> wrote:Sorry but > Zanesville is another one of those semi-nearby places where > I've never spent the night. Baker's looks OK and I think it > would the first place I'd look if I needed a bed in > Zanesville but I have absolutely no personal experience with > it. You should also know that I'm not a 5 star hotel sort of > guy. I do have one picture but the motel wasn't the primary > subject. The picture was taken from the grounds of the museum > (so that shows how close it > is) for use in a panorama of the museum and the two highways > it sits between. > > The panorama is at > http://www.dennygibson.com/DayTrips/Trip5/index.htm#section4 > and a somewhat higher resolution version of just the motel is > at http://www.dennygibson.com/dt/BM-ZV.jpeg > > --Denny > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat B. [mailto:roadmaven@aol.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:58 PM > > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Zanesville OH/National Road motels > > > > > > Jabba, > > I've been by it a couple of times (never stayed), but the > Baker's a > > 5 > sta > > Motel is right across the street from the Zane Grey Museum between > > Zanesville and Cambridge. It's an oldie, but I'm not certain of its > > quality. Perhaps we have some Buckeyes who can elaborate? > Here's their > > website: http://www.bakersmotel.com/ > > > > > > Pat B. > > Speedway, IN > > http://roadtripmemories.com > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "okydokey89" <okydokey@a...> > > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > We are planning a weekend trip to do some of the National Road in > > OH. > > > I got info for Zanesville and saw advertisements for the > Nighty-Nite > > > and Sycamore motels. Has anyone stayed there or have any > pictures > > > or comments? 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Guest Hank Hallmark Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 This interesting "tidbit" pertaining to traffic enforcement in "Duke City" might have some implications to our "roadies"! Hank Hallmark National Motorists Assn lends Support To AClU Challenge by John Holevoet, Director of Development The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of New Mexico is taking the city of Albuquerque to court over two new ordinances that allow the city's police to seize the vehicles of motorists suspected of drinking and driving, or any vehicle that has received two red-light-camera tickets. Mayor Martin Chavez and the Albuquerque city council have used the city's "public nuisance" ordinance to justify permanently seizing the car of anyone accused of a DWI. Similarly, someone who receives a second red-light-camera ticket would lose his or her vehicle for 30 days, even if the owner was not driving the car. Peter Simonson, ACLU-New Mexico's executive director, correctly states that these new repressive laws turn traditional due process on its head. "The City has created a system whereby everyone who is accused of these crimes is automatically considered guilty," Simonson said. "That's not fair and it's not constitutional. People deserve their day in court." Mayor Chavez claims he expected legal challenges to the laws, but in recent press interviews, he seemed furious that the ACLU would challenge his perceived dictatorial power. "I've had it. I'm sick of it," Chavez said. "On my watch, we are going to have these laws." For the time being, Chavez will have to wait. District Court Judge Theresa Baca issued a temporary injunction against the enforcement of the laws. Meanwhile, ACLU-New Mexico and the city are preparing their cases for a mid-August trial date. The ACLU's complaint asserts that the law misapplies the nuisance abatement law, violates the motorists' privacy, disregards due process, and ignores a person's right to confront their accuser(s). "The city is declaring vehicles a public nuisance in order to leap-frog normal trial procedures and go right to the punishment phase," ACLU attorney George Bach said. To National Motorists Assn [NMA] members, the numerous problems with these oppressive measures are self-evident. Concerns about due process and privacy are only made worse because these laws are based on questionable enforcement technology like ticket cameras and Breathalyzers. The NMA and NMA Foundation both have long-standing positions against harsher, yet still ineffective, DUI laws and the use of unsafe, money-grubbing ticket cameras. For that reason, the NMA Foundation's Grant Review Board decided to issue a Legal Aid Grant to the ACLU-New Mexico to aid in their defense of motorists' rights in Albuquerque. "Motorists are often the first to be targeted by laws threatening personal liberty and undermining due process rights," said James Baxter, NMA President. "It's our hope that this grant will encourage the ACLU in New Mexico and beyond to more strenuously defend motorists' rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi all...periodically we like to remind everyone of the "law of the land" here on the American Road Yahoo Group. Please review our Speed Limits below. Thanks! Pat B. American Road Yahoo Group Because personal views often differ, please familiarize yourself with our SPEED LIMITS, which set boundaries and explain the atmosphere we hope to maintain. -New members will be approved and moderated for a short time until a history of appropriate posts is established. We welcome new members; unfortunately, we've started this policy to protect the group and prevent spam. -NO FLAMING! Flaming is any derogatory or insulting remark directed at another list member. This doesn't necessarily include comments critical of persons outside the list, however, such as actions by those who would destroy roadside landmarks. Remember, the list isn't a battleground for personal arguments. Acts of flaming will generate a reminder. Continued infractions will result in banishment. -Keep your posts on topic. Off-topic posts should be sparing and labeled OFF-TOPIC. -No profanity & off-color jokes. -Kindly keep posts road-related and aimed at the group in general rather than one person. Private email should be used for one-on-one chat. -Computers have made us lazy but we ask that you please make a real effort to only include parts of a prior message pertinent to your response. Simply hitting "reply" wastes space and forces everyone to scroll through threads that may get long. TO POST A NOTE: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com TO UNSUBSCRIBE: -go to www.yahoogroups.com, or -email to AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop us a line! AMERICAN ROAD list hosts, Pat & Jennifer Bremer AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jane Dippel Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 There are many ghost towns between Flagstaff and Phoeinx that are off 17. Have visited Bumble Bee, Cleator, Humbolt, Mayer and Crown King. I reached all of these in a Dodge. The ride is a very slow and rough but the reward great. Try one you might get hooked on ghost towns. I did one on a whim and now love to explore them. Jerome out of Sedona is a ghost town but full of people and a very interesting an easy drive. If you head to Apache Junction and the Superstition Mountains be sure to eat at Tortilla Flats.....Jane....Have found Cottonwood less expensive to stay in then Sedona if you are looking for an over night try the View Motel Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 4 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. What's near Phoenix? From: "Denny Gibson" 2. Re: What's near Phoenix? From: "Ken" 3. RE: Re: What's near Phoenix? From: "Denny Gibson" 4. Re: What's near Phoenix? From: "Ken" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:31:02 -0000 From: "Denny Gibson" Subject: What's near Phoenix? There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:30:05 -0000 From: "Ken" Subject: Re: What's near Phoenix? Hey Denny! If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure Trip! Oh Yeah! Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona area,...that's what I would do. Q:) God Bless and Happy Trails. Have a safe sojourn. the landrunner P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! "To see something that you've never seen before... You have to go somewhere you've never been before." --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" wrote: > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I > could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but > thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. > Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific > items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:37:47 -0400 From: "Denny Gibson" Subject: RE: Re: What's near Phoenix? That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Lottsa thanks. I did a quick plot on the "Triangle" (actually looks a little like a fish, if you squint just right) and it looks like it might be marginally do-able in two days but would really require three or more to avoid a time squeeze. So I have to ask about trimmings and substitutions. #1. What about clipping the 191 from St Johns to Sanders? The Petrified Forest is certainly cool but I have been there so it has to be considered expendable. The question is, what would I miss by substituting 180 for 191? #2. An even bigger clip would be to head north at Show Low (Wish I could remember where I've read about that town.) and take 77 straight to Holbrook. #3. Route 77 goes through Snowflake and seeing that prompted me to dig out Blue Highways. Heat-Moon turned north at Snowflake after taking 87-260-277 from Phoenix. That cuts off a few hours, throws in a little literary connection, and completely removes any resemblance to a triangle. #4. If time got even shorter, I guess I could hightail it out of Flagstaff on I-17 and miss out on Prescott, etc. This is all theoretical right now because there might be no free time. There could be three or four days but if it turns out to be one or two, I want to be ready to use it. Any comments on the above possibilities? -----Original Message----- From: Ken [mailto:thelandrunner@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: What's near Phoenix? Hey Denny! If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. >From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure Trip! Oh Yeah! Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona area,...that's what I would do. Q:) God Bless and Happy Trails. Have a safe sojourn. the landrunner P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! "To see something that you've never seen before... You have to go somewhere you've never been before." --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" wrote: > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle days > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know I > could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but > thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar situation. > Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific > items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:27:25 -0000 From: "Ken" Subject: Re: What's near Phoenix? Greetings Denny! Hey...I can see that fish that you see. Whoa! #1. Bypassing US191 to provide time for the journey is certainly an option. The reasons why I suggested US 191 is because 1) It skirts the Apache National Forest and is a beautiful drive, 2) I thought you might enjoy cruising on the former US 666 route. Your choice of path changes to save time is most understandable, and really only depends on the amount of time you can afford. Going by way of US 180 isn't as scenic drive as US 191, but one must keep within the time constraints. #2. If you were to clip off a part of the Triangle, this choice of taking SR 77 would be your best bet. Takes you on a beeline straight to the Mother Road. This is the clip that I would recommend, if any clipping should have to occur. P.S. - You probably read alot about Showlow and the surrounding areas last year, when the entire area was engulfed with disasterous fires that burned millions of acres of forest and many of the towns were evacuated. #3. Don't worry about messing up the Triangle shaped journey path. You're reasoning for this clip connects you, in a literary sense, to Blue Highways and is a great motive for making this journey possible! Bring the book with you. You may find a shade tree to stop for a packed roadside lunch and cop a few pages in while you're enjoying the mountain breeze and relaxing a meal down. #4. Yep. I agree! A quick jaunt over to the SuperSlab will certainly get you out of a bind for time. Another alternate route to this clip could be to remain on course going south from Flagstaff on SR 89A, through Sedona (gotta go to Sedona!), to Prescott. At Prescott, jog southeast on SR 69 through Dewey, Humboldt, Mayer, and then dump onto I-17 from there. This route will trek you through the gap with the Prescott National Forest on both sides. Nice! Only other advice is to leave very early in the mornings. You will have PLENTY of time to make this journey, especially after some of the clips. Besides, with the Arizona heat blazing this time of year, you'll be glad that you had enjoyed at least a small bit of time in the coolness of the morning air. As a part time hiker, I will always add the recommendation of bringing plenty of water with you. God Bless Denny! Have fun! Safe and Happy Trails. the landrunner Q:) --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" wrote: > That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for. Lottsa thanks. > > I did a quick plot on the "Triangle" (actually looks a little like a fish, > if you squint just right) and it looks like it might be marginally do-able > in two days but would really require three or more to avoid a time squeeze. > So I have to ask about trimmings and substitutions. > > #1. What about clipping the 191 from St Johns to Sanders? The Petrified > Forest is certainly cool but I have been there so it has to be considered > expendable. The question is, what would I miss by substituting 180 for 191? > > #2. An even bigger clip would be to head north at Show Low (Wish I could > remember where I've read about that town.) and take 77 straight to Holbrook. > > #3. Route 77 goes through Snowflake and seeing that prompted me to dig out > Blue Highways. Heat-Moon turned north at Snowflake after taking 87- 260-277 > from Phoenix. That cuts off a few hours, throws in a little literary > connection, and completely removes any resemblance to a triangle. > > #4. If time got even shorter, I guess I could hightail it out of Flagstaff > on I-17 and miss out on Prescott, etc. > > This is all theoretical right now because there might be no free time. There > could be three or four days but if it turns out to be one or two, I want to > be ready to use it. Any comments on the above possibilities? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:thelandrunner@y...] > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: What's near Phoenix? > > > Hey Denny! > > If I were you with a few free days off in the Phoenix area, I'd make > it into a "Triangle Adventure Trip"! From Phoenix, head east towards > Mesa and then onto Apache Junction and drive the old US 60 Highway! > Take it through the Salt River Canyon and view the older alignments > and great bridges along the way. The scenery abounds as well as > visiting through some mighty fine small mining towns along the way! > You'll burn up at least a roll of film on this leg of the adventure! > > Stay on US 60 to Eager, AZ. From Eager, go north on US 191, which was > formerly the lower leg of old US Highway 666. US 191 will dump you > onto Route 66, and then head west on the Mother Road, but at times > you will have to enter the SuperSlab I-40. No biggie! You'll pass by > the Painted Desert and the National Petrified Forest. Be sure to make > the Painted Desert loop as you are heading west! Superb indeed! > Stay on Route 66 as much as you can, all the way to Flagstaff! > > Once in Flagstaff, take in all the great Route 66 sites and icons. > >From Flagstaff, take SR 89A south to Sedona then on to Prescott. Best > to have your camera filled and have extra film on this leg of the > Triangle Adventure! Trust me sir! Once in Prescott, take SR 89 to > Wickenburg. Voila!...now you're back on old US 60!!!! Take US 60 > heading east and you'll be strolling back into Phoenix in no time at > all. You'll indeed be glad that you made this Triangle Adventure > Trip! Oh Yeah! > > Like I said, if I had an extra few days in the southern Arizona > area,...that's what I would do. Q:) > > God Bless and Happy Trails. > Have a safe sojourn. > > the landrunner > > > P.S. Mike Ward from this E-Group lives in the Mesa area. You should > look him up while you're there. You will thoroughly meeting Mike and > his wonderful wife Sharon. They are experts in the area! > > "To see something that you've never seen before... > You have to go somewhere you've never been before." > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" > wrote: > > There is a 50/50 chance that I'll shortly have a couple of idle > days > > in Phoenix. My first idea was to spend it going straight up to > > Flagstaff and driving 66 through Seligman & Oatman. I don't get out > > west very often, but I did happen to do that drive in June. I know > I > > could find plenty of new things to explore on that stretch but > > thought I'd ask this group what they would do in a similar > situation. > > Either something new and different around Phoenix or some specific > > items on Route 66 west of Flagstaff. > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285- 5434 WITH > YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD- owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > To POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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