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Still looking for Bob.

 

 

 

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> I am new to American Road. Looks like an interesting group. Does

 

> anyone in the group know how I can contact Bob Claar? Bob was a

 

> contributor to the Mockturtle and I thought he may have moved here.

 

> Bob and I served on the same ship in 1967.

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Guest Brian Butko

Saw a PT Cruiser serving the our local cab company today and made me wonder,

 

do you know of any cab companies still using Checker-brand cars? You know,

 

the ones that looked like '55 Chevys?

 

 

 

Brian Butko

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

...unfortuantely the bad acting and the story x-ne any feel I had for the

 

cars and the road...it is a good thing that Dennis Wilson and James Taylor

 

did not quit their day jobs...one thing must be said; the only thing that

 

kept me watching the flick was Warren Oates (Stripes, etc)...who may be one

 

of the most underappreciated character actors ever...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:02 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Two Lane Blacktop

 

 

 

 

 

> I've seen the movie a couple of times and enjoy the cars and the

 

> roads more than anything else. Thought the acting was terrible and

 

> the story worse. Another flick where the picked-up chick is a

 

> problem child -- similar to the one in Crazy Larry, Lazy Mary.

 

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> Bliss

 

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> > Next week, I'll be giving an introduction to the 1971 film Two Lane

 

> Blacktop

 

> > at the Frick Car & Carriage Museum in Pittsburgh. Remember? - James

 

> Taylor

 

> > as The Driver, Beach Boy Dennis Wilson as The Mechanic. They drift

 

> between

 

> > towns racing their 55 Chevy and meet up with Warren Oates, who is

 

> driving a

 

> > new GTO. Opinions are split - some think the acting is wooden and

 

> the plot

 

> > meandering. Others think it's genius. Lots just like the cars and

 

> road

 

> > scenes - Route 66 I believe.

 

> >

 

> > Just wondering what thoughts you might have?

 

> >

 

> > Brian Butko

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

my sister in law is from that neck of the woods; if she has any inspiration

 

I will let you know...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Hotel Recommendation

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest mockturtlepress

Greetings to the individual looking for Bob Claar:

 

 

 

Send me an e-mail at trepp@mockturtlepress.com. I cannot post private

 

contact information in this forum, but I am happy to phone Bobby and let him

 

know you're looking for him.

 

 

 

Thomas Repp

 

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Guest Mike Frankovich

Actually they looked more like '58 Chevys. I have not

 

seen any in service in a long time here in So Cal.

 

There is a Checker club that had a meet at Santa Anita

 

a few months back. I have also met a guy who has

 

around 175 Checkers and rents them for movies. There

 

are a few still running around LA, though not as in

 

service cabs. A clean original civilian model is

 

sitting at a repair shop a few blocks from my

 

business. The mechanicals are Chevrolet, so parts are

 

avaliable. I believe they were built until 1982 or so.

 

They built the Marathon sedan (regular taxi), airport

 

limo, and stationwagon.

 

 

 

Mike Frankovich

 

 

 

--- Brian Butko <babutko@hswp.org> wrote:

 

 

 

> Saw a PT Cruiser serving the our local cab company

 

> today and made me wonder,

 

> do you know of any cab companies still using

 

> Checker-brand cars? You know,

 

> the ones that looked like '55 Chevys?

 

>

 

> Brian Butko

 

>

 

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This is becoming even more apparent. Just today there is a story

 

that US Senator Richard Lugar sent a letter to IDOT opposing a plan

 

where I-69 would cut through a mile of his family's farm in southwest

 

Indianapolis. Hmmm, wonder what kind of pull a senator with nearly 30

 

years tenure has? ;-)

 

 

 

Pat

 

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> Pat & Alex,

 

>

 

> Thanks for your insightful comments on the politics of

 

roadbuilding. And you are right, when it comes to highway heritage,

 

the DOTs can be our best friends or our worst enemies. Another reason

 

politicians like to build roads is that new roads bring added

 

commerce, and that commerce increases the tax base.

 

>

 

> Jim R.

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Guest brownwho63

I believe that Brian is correct about the Checker being patterned

 

after the '55 Chevy. Look closely at the grille and the "boxy" body

 

and I'm sure you can see the comparison.....Bliss

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Mike Frankovich

 

<mfrankovich@y...> wrote:

 

> Actually they looked more like '58 Chevys. I have not

 

> seen any in service in a long time here in So Cal.

 

> There is a Checker club that had a meet at Santa Anita

 

> a few months back. I have also met a guy who has

 

> around 175 Checkers and rents them for movies. There

 

> are a few still running around LA, though not as in

 

> service cabs. A clean original civilian model is

 

> sitting at a repair shop a few blocks from my

 

> business. The mechanicals are Chevrolet, so parts are

 

> avaliable. I believe they were built until 1982 or so.

 

> They built the Marathon sedan (regular taxi), airport

 

> limo, and stationwagon.

 

>

 

> Mike Frankovich

 

>

 

> --- Brian Butko <babutko@h...> wrote:

 

>

 

> > Saw a PT Cruiser serving the our local cab company

 

> > today and made me wonder,

 

> > do you know of any cab companies still using

 

> > Checker-brand cars? You know,

 

> > the ones that looked like '55 Chevys?

 

> >

 

> > Brian Butko

 

> >

 

> >

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Haven't seen any Checkers for a while. These were made in Kalamazoo, MI

 

- don't

 

know when the factory went under. It was still in business when they

 

made the

 

movie "Blue Collar" there - with Yaphet Kotto, Richard Pryor and Harvey

 

Keitel.

 

There's a national Checker Car Club and they had their annual meet in

 

June at

 

the Gilmore Car Museum near K'zoo.

 

http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicles/col...ue/checkerc.htm

 

 

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

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Saw a PT Cruiser serving the our local cab company today and made me

 

wonder,

 

do you know of any cab companies still using Checker-brand cars? You

 

know,

 

the ones that looked like '55 Chevys?

 

 

 

Brian Butko

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Uh huh - but he would support an interstate

 

running right thru the middle of any big city in

 

his domain.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- roadmaven <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote:

 

>

 

> This is becoming even more apparent. Just

 

> today there is a story

 

> that US Senator Richard Lugar sent a letter to

 

> IDOT opposing a plan

 

> where I-69 would cut through a mile of his

 

> family's farm in southwest

 

> Indianapolis. Hmmm, wonder what kind of pull a

 

> senator with nearly 30

 

> years tenure has? ;-)

 

>

 

> Pat

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@y..., "Jim Ross"

 

> <pathfinder66@e...> wrote:

 

> > Pat & Alex,

 

> >

 

> > Thanks for your insightful comments on the

 

> politics of

 

> roadbuilding. And you are right, when it comes

 

> to highway heritage,

 

> the DOTs can be our best friends or our worst

 

> enemies. Another reason

 

> politicians like to build roads is that new

 

> roads bring added

 

> commerce, and that commerce increases the tax

 

> base.

 

> >

 

> > Jim R.

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Checker passed from this mortal coil in 1982 - started

 

back in the 1920's as I recall. Born of a merger

 

between Commonwealth Motors of Joliet, IL, and Markin

 

Body Corporation of Chicago in October 1921. Tho

 

there was a Checker Cab in 1920-1923, it wasn't until

 

1923 that a true Checker was born. The 1920-1922 cars

 

were either Commonwealth or Commonwealth under Markin

 

Body operations. In 1922 Commonwealth went into

 

recievership and Checker emerged.

 

 

 

In the 1930's Checker built bodies for several

 

other makers - for example panel delivery bodies for

 

Hudson in 1938-1939. In the 50's and 60's Checker was,

 

literally, a tank of a car. Everything was heavy

 

duty, including the door handles and upholstery.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- "Russell S. Rein" <Ypsi-slim@juno.com> wrote:

 

 

 

> Haven't seen any Checkers for a while. These were

 

> made in Kalamazoo, MI

 

> - don't

 

> know when the factory went under. It was still in

 

> business when they

 

> made the

 

> movie "Blue Collar" there - with Yaphet Kotto,

 

> Richard Pryor and Harvey

 

> Keitel.

 

> There's a national Checker Car Club and they had

 

> their annual meet in

 

> June at

 

> the Gilmore Car Museum near K'zoo.

 

>

 

http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicles/col...ue/checkerc.htm

 

>

 

>

 

> ypsi-slim

 

>

 

> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 08:31:51 -0400 Brian Butko

 

> <babutko@hswp.org> writes:

 

> Saw a PT Cruiser serving the our local cab company

 

> today and made me

 

> wonder,

 

> do you know of any cab companies still using

 

> Checker-brand cars? You

 

> know,

 

> the ones that looked like '55 Chevys?

 

>

 

> Brian Butko

 

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Guest Jim Conkle

Good Morning to you all,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yesterday was the last day to vote for the Preservation Award on the

 

Smithsonian web site. For those of you that voted everyday, a few times or

 

even just once over the two months the voting was open, Hampton and I thank

 

you. It was an honor to be one of the three finalists and to win will be an

 

even greater pleasure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In just a few short years many great things have happened to Route 66 and

 

one of the major ones was Hampton’s getting involved in preservation,

 

restoration and signage of our beloved road. For all of you that were so

 

very helpful in your support and involvement with us a special THANKS to

 

you, you all know who you are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We will be going back to DC a few times again next year to lobby for funding

 

and programs. We invite each of you to become involved with this lobbying in

 

your local and state areas as well as with us on the national level. We must

 

speak as one group with all of our needs and goals in one package. We will

 

succeed working together rather then fail separately. When we speak as ONE

 

we will get the attention of those we seek to support us. So please join us

 

in our lobbying efforts by adding your voice to your state associations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

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Great news and great effort......PLEASE don't forget that there is a LOT of

 

nitty gritty

 

in the real estate bizzz. Let me re-explain......

 

 

 

I don't know if you read my posts.....but "MONEY TALKS"......get some

 

backers....get some financing.....be READY to play hard-ball...or you're gonna

 

wind

 

up sitting on the curb...wondering what happened.

 

 

 

As I have written before, get a hard-ball REALTOR to represent you ( you HAVE

 

to attack this from BOTH FRONTS) and who will champion your efforts. The

 

owner of the BOOTS MOTEL will listen to a BETTER OFFER. Trust me or not, I KNOW

 

what I'm talking about. All the council meetings, all the "nice-nice", all the

 

presentations, all the lobbying, all the letters ...will fall on deaf ears.

 

 

 

There is a piece of REAL ESTATE that is for sale....highest bidder wins..and

 

I'm NOT talking through my hat here.

 

 

 

Whether you like it or ME or NOT.....I'm trying to help you with perspective

 

here, folks. I KNOW REAL ESTATE SALES. Trying to convince people to "save" the

 

property....will ALWAYS...take a second seat to "BUYING" the property....THEN

 

saving it. READ that again, it's important. There are resources that can help

 

you AFTER you have put in a REAL offer, a BETTER offer...that will get the

 

SELLER'S attention. Do yourself a favor, work the save/preserve angle...BUT also

 

work the...."I'm gonna buy this" angle. With the purchase and/or ownership of

 

a piece of real estate...come the "bundle of rights" that come with it. Hey,

 

dismiss this, if you like, but find a REALTOR....they will support what I am

 

saying.

 

 

 

Wish I was sitting across the table to help you understand this BASIC aspect

 

of this transaction. I am brutal when it comes to buying real estate. I have

 

NEVER, EVER, EVER not gotten a piece of property I wanted.

 

 

 

I'm on your side. I'm tyring to help ...pull you back and give you an

 

important overveiw. Print this email...and show it to a smart REALTOR and ask

 

them if

 

this is good advise, considering the situation.

 

 

 

Now, why, I'd like to ask, it the buyer remaining "invisible"? He/she is

 

doing it because REALTORS are supposed to maintain confidentiality...read this

 

carefully, the buyer knows this, and is protecting

 

his/her position....at this point. The seller is not required to expose the

 

identity of his buyers.

 

This CAN be a potential multiple-offer situation. It's like bidding on a

 

government "closed-bid" contract......the BEST TERMS and the BEST BID wins! All

 

the lobbying & presevation presentations will make your bid

 

that much bigger and MORE powerful.

 

 

 

The best way to play the game is get a REALTOR (not me).....and make an

 

"offer they can't refuse"...... THEN get help from the roadies like me, the

 

ROute

 

66 Corridor money....you knwo what and who I'm talking about. I promise to be

 

there with my constuction tools and help remodel.....I just need a chigger-free

 

place to sleep......cold suds....and food.

 

I KNOW I'm not the only one who will help......

 

 

 

Just to make my point ABSOLUTELY clear: I, UNKLE CHESTY, own a motel. It's

 

along a road.

 

Sure, maybe it's Route 66. Sure, I'm a little nostalgic about it. But, heck,

 

I'm old...I want out.....I want to sell to the highest bbidder and move to

 

Tulsa, so I can buy a house right next door to Michael Wallis so we can swap

 

"ole

 

Route 66" stories. Anyone one out there who has ever had a "for sale" sign in

 

their yard for longer than three weeks will be singing this tune when they

 

wake up...."Bring me an offer, oh bring me an offer, oh bring me a

 

contract".....it's as simple AND as complicated as that....

 

 

 

If I was licensed in Missouri, like it or not, I'd be on your front

 

porch.....banging on the brass knocker.

 

 

 

If you answer, you can let me in or tell me to go fish.......I always have a

 

rod and tackle under the seat.

 

 

 

Wishing you great success...from all us roadies......but, COVER ALL THE

 

BASES......this is war!.....

 

 

 

Unkle Chesty

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Ahhh, love the blue collar "flavor" of all this......like a house painter

 

with paint on his nails and on his forearms and on his forehead where he

 

squashed

 

a mosquito in mid-brush stroke.....nothing like the sweet smell of

 

newsprint. I should know, my Dad was a "star" photojournalist for the Chicago

 

Tribune.

 

He was one of the first 5 people in Chicago to have a mobil phone...which was

 

a "dial phone"...where he summond..."Millie the operator".....and was the

 

size of a Yugo stuffed in the trunk of his Ford. Hmmm, the smell of the

 

developing chemicals that wafted from the basement...reminded me of the words a

 

Kansas

 

pig farmer once said to me as I asked, "What's that smell?" on a 110 degree

 

day in August in western Kansas. (yeah, yeah...it's a run-on sentence...so bust

 

me) "Chesty, he said, THAT is the smell of cash......"

 

 

 

All I can say is keep on sniffin'......magazines need you in this

 

day-and-age...of the internet....net...net...net.

 

 

 

But, I want to pose a question....when nature calls....are you gonna grab the

 

laptop to entertain yourself.....or a nice magazine? Me, I'll take a

 

magazine...you never know, a teenager could have been the last one in there, and

 

didn't replace the roll....and you could be, heaven's, alone in the house.

 

Moreover, afterwards I can take it in the yard and read it under a nice shady

 

tree and

 

use it to add a wee bit more shade....as I take a summer snooze.......Even

 

better, magazines are easily re-trieveable and shareable and storeable....

 

 

 

Gotta go the popcorn is ready....

 

 

 

Nighty, night....

 

 

 

Unkle Chesty.....THE Last Rider On Route 66.....

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Hello, my name is Chris. I just joined the group.

 

My interests include Desktop Publishing, surfing the web, Post

 

Modern and Googie Architecture, Classic Cars and Auto Racing.

 

One of my favorite places to be, is behind the wheel.

 

I have quite a few miles under my belt thanks to my work, but I

 

hope to do a "National Lampoon's Vacation" with the family once

 

our son is old enough to appreciate it.

 

I have already added some of my favorite links to that section of

 

the group. Hope to learn a lot here and am sure to enjoy my stay!

 

 

 

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Guest sundayjohn66

Ron and I attended the City Council meeting last night in Carthage. I

 

delivered a short statement on the importance of the Boots to Carthage

 

and to Route 66 and advising the council of a city ordinance that

 

gives it the right to direct the historic commission to declare the

 

Boots a historic landmark, thereby giving it some measure of

 

protection from developers who would demolish it. I also gave the

 

council members bound copies of a report I'd written about the

 

property (no, I do not have any extras left over; yes, I will post the

 

text later if I have time).

 

 

 

Tommy and Glenda Pike also attended the meeting and read an excellent

 

letter from the Route 66 Association of Missouri, on behalf of all its

 

members, supporting the Boots and encouraging the city to treat it as

 

an asset rather than a liability.

 

 

 

Two local newspapers were there to cover the meeting, and the council

 

seemed very supportive. At the moment, there are two significant

 

stumbling blocks:

 

 

 

1. We still don't know who the buyer is or what his intentions are.

 

2. The ordinance clearly states that the council can't simply declare

 

the Boots a historic landmark itself -- it has to direct the historic

 

commission to do that. At the moment, no such commission exists, so

 

the council's hands are tied.

 

 

 

We spoke with individual council members after the meeting to discuss

 

various options for dealing with the problem. The council seemed open

 

to our ideas but uncertain whether any of them would work. Several

 

council members are going to discuss the issue further and try to

 

figure out what can be done. In the meantime, they are waiting to find

 

out who the new property owner is going to be. Hopefully they will

 

find out soon.

 

 

 

I think at this point in time, I think our best course of action is to

 

keep the issue in the public eye and try to generate popular support

 

for saving the Boots. If a chain is eying the property for demolition,

 

they may back off if the community seems unwilling to see the property

 

destroyed; most companies do not want to anger their potential

 

customers as soon as they come into town. Thus, it seems sensible to

 

me to keep the issue in the local papers and on the public's mind

 

while we wait to see what's going to happen.

 

 

 

Keep writing letters to the editor telling the community what a

 

beautiful treasure they've got. Hopefully they -- and the new buyer,

 

whoever he may be -- will get the message.

 

 

 

We are going to the council meeting Nov. 25 to get an update and show

 

our commitment to the Boots Motel.

 

 

 

If anybody is interested in participating in that meeting, please mark

 

your calendar for 7:30 p.m. Nov. 25. I will issue a reminder about

 

this when it gets closer to time, and we'll post the address again. If

 

you're shy about speaking in front of the council, that's OK; just

 

wear a Route 66 T-shirt and sit in the audience and nod

 

enthusiastically when somebody else says something positive about the

 

Boots. A show of solidarity will go a long way toward demonstrating

 

our commitment to the Boots' future.

 

 

 

I felt very encouraged by the reception we got from the council. I

 

don't think the Boots is out of the woods yet -- far from it -- but I

 

think we are making progress, albeit slowly. And in the end, even if

 

we can't save the Boots itself, the council is thinking about ways to

 

protect its other historic assets, both on and off the Mother Road.

 

Let's keep that momentum going.

 

 

 

Emily

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Guest Mike Ward

Speaking of American Road and "new", got the latest issue today. It just keeps

 

getting better and better. Even before I have a chance to open it that smell of

 

printer's ink hits my nose. That, to me, is the smell of quality! Keep it up,

 

Thomas, Rebecca, Jim, and everyone else who contributes.

 

 

 

Mike

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Hi Chris,

 

 

 

And welcome to the American Road egroup - we got a

 

nice bunch of people here.

 

 

 

You and I share a couple of interests - surfing the

 

net, auto racing (did some of that myself more years

 

back than I care to remember) and classic cars (tho my

 

interest is more in the mundane world of Hudson,

 

Rambler and International trucks).

 

 

 

Stop by often, and if you haven't subscribed to

 

American Road magazine, do so at your earliest

 

convience - it's a great read.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Chris <stoneynb@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> Hello, my name is Chris. I just joined the group.

 

> My interests include Desktop Publishing, surfing the

 

> web, Post

 

> Modern and Googie Architecture, Classic Cars and

 

> Auto Racing.

 

> One of my favorite places to be, is behind the

 

> wheel.

 

> I have quite a few miles under my belt thanks to my

 

> work, but I

 

> hope to do a "National Lampoon's Vacation" with the

 

> family once

 

> our son is old enough to appreciate it.

 

> I have already added some of my favorite links to

 

> that section of

 

> the group. Hope to learn a lot here and am sure to

 

> enjoy my stay!

 

>

 

> Chris, NJ Exit 7-A

 

>

 

> Just Think!

 

> http://www.geocities.com/stoneynb/

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Mike Ward

Yes, Chet, my secret is out. I have been a closet sniffer for years (no, I

 

don't sniff closets), but the aroma of the latest issue was TOO much.

 

 

 

Actually, it reminds me of my time spent in the Air Force putting out a weekly

 

base tabloid and having to spend at least one day a week at the publisher. I

 

used to come home smelling like printers ink and it was hard to get the smell

 

out of my clothes.

 

 

 

Mike

 

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Guest Pete Jenior

About 6 months ago I subscribed to American Road. I have received

 

one issue so far - Volume 1, Number 2. The cover shows a red car

 

driving west on SR 66. A few days ago I got and "American Road

 

Founders Club" certificate, and this made me realize that it has

 

been a long time since I got my first issue.

 

 

 

When is the next issue coming out, and if I missed it/had it get

 

lost in the mail, etc. could I possibly get one still?

 

 

 

-Pete Jenior

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Hi Alex,

 

Thanks for the welcome. This group looks good. I like history and the road.

 

I'm in perhaps too many yahoo groups, moderate a few and I own one. All

 

good stuff tho.

 

Auto Racing, I'm stricktly a spectator. I collect classic cars with my camera.

 

They take up less room that way. I have several photo galleries on the web if

 

you would like to get lost for awhile.

 

I guess I'm here to track down some lost roadside treasures. I was an

 

Architecture major in school (briefly) and I'm interested in creating a photo

 

gallery of living "Roadside Vernacular" examples, such as early motels, fast

 

food restaurants, car washes and anything to do with the "auto age". I know

 

of web-sites like "Roadside Peek" etc. I added those links to the list today.

 

I'm

 

thinking of documenting and contributing info on what I find in my own corner

 

of the world.

 

 

 

Regards, Chris

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Alex Burr <hester_nec@y...>

 

wrote:

 

> Hi Chris,

 

>

 

> And welcome to the American Road egroup - we got a

 

> nice bunch of people here.

 

>

 

> You and I share a couple of interests - surfing the

 

> net, auto racing (did some of that myself more years

 

> back than I care to remember) and classic cars (tho my

 

> interest is more in the mundane world of Hudson,

 

> Rambler and International trucks).

 

>

 

> Stop by often, and if you haven't subscribed to

 

> American Road magazine, do so at your earliest

 

> convience - it's a great read.

 

>

 

> Hudsonly,

 

> Alex B

 

>

 

> --- Chris <stoneynb@y...> wrote:

 

> > Hello, my name is Chris. I just joined the group.

 

> > My interests include Desktop Publishing, surfing the

 

> > web, Post

 

> > Modern and Googie Architecture, Classic Cars and

 

> > Auto Racing.

 

> > One of my favorite places to be, is behind the

 

> > wheel.

 

> > I have quite a few miles under my belt thanks to my

 

> > work, but I

 

> > hope to do a "National Lampoon's Vacation" with the

 

> > family once

 

> > our son is old enough to appreciate it.

 

> > I have already added some of my favorite links to

 

> > that section of

 

> > the group. Hope to learn a lot here and am sure to

 

> > enjoy my stay!

 

> >

 

> > Chris, NJ Exit 7-A

 

> >

 

> > Just Think!

 

> > http://www.geocities.com/stoneynb/

 

> >

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

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Guest sundayjohn66

Wish I could take your advice. Unfortunately, I have a mortgage in

 

Belleville, no assets, and when I say I don't have a down payment, I

 

mean that in the sense that Ron and I could maybe go to the plasma

 

bank and come home with $80 to put down on the property.

 

 

 

Any offer we made would have to be contingent on the sale of our own

 

house, because there is no way the Boots generates enough income to

 

make *two* mortgage payments a month. And no, we're not going to make

 

enough off the sale of our house to accomplish anything ... our home

 

equity is almost zilch because we've only had the house for a couple

 

of years.

 

 

 

We just don't have the finances to one-up a buyer who's walked in with

 

cash in hand and is ready to close in a week. I wish we did, but at

 

the end of the day, our financial position is not competitive with

 

anybody's.

 

 

 

If you can bulldog 'em into selling *you* the property, however, I

 

would be more than happy to come out there and run it for you, just as

 

soon as you find somebody to take over the mortgage on this house....

 

 

 

Emily

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

If you want a real nice curvy one, try one just south of you and take U.S.

 

60 across West Virginia...it was the main artery across the state until they

 

finished 64 which for an interstate in the east was pretty recent

 

history...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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> I would have to consult with my husband, The Road Maven (aka Pat) as

 

> well as a map about this, but we took parts of U.S. 30 in

 

> Pennsylvania when we returned from Connecticut to Indiana. There was

 

> an area where we were that was curvy and steep in the mountains. It

 

> was dark, we were unfamiliar with the road, and to top it off, we

 

> were driving my mom's full size, extended Econoline van. Pat was

 

> having a heart failure. He was pretty nervous, and of all the things

 

> I got the giggles and was joking around in an attempt to lighten the

 

> mood - "hey Pat look at all the lights waaaaaaay out there down in

 

> that valley!!" That make him more nervous...talk about cranky. I

 

> didn't mean to laugh, it was just one of those situations where you

 

> just have to laugh, like in that new Brad Paisley song.

 

>

 

> Jennifer

 

>

 

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