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A very good match indeed. Perhaps KtSotR could morph them for you or even throw in the Vale's 1983 shot for a mind boggling three way morph.
The street light, which was one of the changes pointed out by the Vales, has changed again and looks more like the one Stewart saw than the one that was there in 1983. Trees were completely absent in 1953, stood above the Hall in 1983, and have shrunk to half that height in 2009. (I'm fairly confident that they are replacements but, if they really did shrink, that's the story.) The shrub at the steps doesn't appear in either earlier photograph. The bricks between steps and sidewalk were stacked beside the building in 1983 but look to be restored in Pat's shot. Maybe the shrub appeared when the bricks returned to make up for some attrition. Like Dave, the Vales also commented on the absent route signs. I believe that US-40, MO-87, and MO-5 still pass the spot so they must be signed nearby. The striped shield above the numbered route markers in Stewart's photo is a National Old Trails Road marker which he calls "rare". I'll say. The National Old Trails Road Association had been gone for more that twenty years when Stewart took that picture. Any guesses as to when the NOTR was last signed?
Thanks for the picture. Playing "what's different" is a fun way to start the day.
Anyone notice that the cut-out US 40 and state route signs are gone? No surprise there.....do any cutouts still exist on the highway? I doubt it.
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The thing I always wonder about, Jim, is why did a roadbed this short not get covered by the newer US 40? Made a nice driveway entrance for the people owning the house on the left though, huh...heh, heh.
I meant on the right, as we look at it from the overhead.
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Holy cow, of course the toll house I shot isn't the one in Stewart's book. The scene looked deceptively the same, but yes, of course, Stewart shot a brick toll house. Remarkable to me that the two toll houses are so similar in design despite the different building material.
I believe I actually missed Brownsville. I think I missed the turnoff and thus followed 40 around town, and didn't know it until you mentioned the town, Mark. Bummer. I was following Christopher Busta-Peck's excellent maps, and he had the route through Brownstown marked, too. I did see Braddock's Road, but too late, and by that time my rule was "no turnarounds" so I could get to Wheeling before dark.
I was surprised to learn that Ellicott City is one of the wealthiest areas in the nation.
I did note a fair number of what I guessed were probably taverns on the NR in PA. I also enjoyed the S bridge very much, even moreso now that I didn't get to see the ones in OH.
Here's an aerial-map link to the abandoned alignment west of Hagerstown:
The thing I always wonder about, Jim, is why did a roadbed this short not get covered by the newer US 40? Made a nice driveway entrance for the people owning the house on the left though, huh...heh, heh.
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usroadman,
Terrific story, and what a memory!
This particular alignment is not well known, but has some exciting vistas. The 3D photos below show the approach from the east headed west as you start down the cliff face to reach the Columbia.
I have included a cross eyed and an animated gif version that provides a little 3D effect without crossing your eyes (for Jim and Hutch).
Keep the Show on the Road!
Dave
I wonder how many places there are in the US where US highways (interstates don't count here) were re-aligned due to recurring flooding? I guess engineers made their best guesses about water levels in the 1930's, 1940's or what have you.
And perhaps they had to save money and took the shortest alignments and knew they were subject to flooding.
We have US 10 and US 40. And my example at Youghigheny Lake might not be the only one on 40. Frank and Denny may know of others....
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Phenomenal! That sort of then & now shot cannot be beat. And we know it's authentic because you can't fake those pants cuffs.
The National Road/US 40 used to suffer from a similar phenomena in Somerfield, Pa..... I've seen pics of the old bridge that crossed Youghigheny Lake. It was underwater on some occasions. The newer bridge is built on a hillside and crosses the lake at a higher point. Did stop on one trip west, but it was night time and I couldn't see the old bridge's remnants of the old bridge...too dark.
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I'm bummed out here. Need to start travelling more evidently....heh, heh. Haven't been to one of these places.
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You know, Dave, you could change the climatic situation when you do get out of your driveway. Southern CA and Arizona are also warm this time of year. Just point the car south....;-)
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Wow, this thread started in the summer of 2006. Is the longest living thread on this forum..... Becky, Jennifer?
But like I always say....the more the merrier. Everyone have a happy and safe Thanksgiving.
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No, you're all wrong. It's obviously a sign for the trees....lol.
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That's tempting. I've wanted to see the NR in eastern Ohio for a long time. Kind of long for a day trip, and that's all the time I'd have. I'll have to think about it.
Yes, this does sound like a lot of fun for us roadies, Denny. Wish I had the time to take a three day weekend, drive to eastern Ohio on Friday and then drive back on Sunday. And my Dad lives only about 60 miles from the museum, too. But, I got a 400 mile trip from Delaware
Matt Smallwood
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Oh, let me throw this one in. I think this is amazing road building....and it did save the mountainside on Grandfather Mtn. in western NC. It's called the Linville Cove Viaduct.
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I've driven the Chesapeake Bridge/Tunnel round trip twice on trips to the NC Outer Banks from Delaware, Jim. It is interesting seeing how choppy the southern part of the Bay is. Word has it that two boats have slammed into the bridge in it's history....learned that on the Modern Marvels TV show....heh, heh.
It has 2 two lane spans now. The tunnels are two lanes only in one tube....too expensive to build other tubes, I guess. As I recall, there are two short tunnels...only long enough to let large vessels over them, I assume.
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So, we know the Treasure Master is a man, Dave......re, the comment from Mary, the diner waitress....heh, heh. Are you keeping yourself incognito for future geocache adventures, Geo? And, hey, did anyone look for the cache, yet? Dave? Anyone? Don't have the funds to travel to the West Coast myself.
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I'm going to go out and guess it's Jennifer Bremer. Is it? Pat and Jennifer, did you guys take a road trip to the West Coast or are there other geocachers in the group? That would make good sense, exploring roads, burying things in parks and fields along the way......
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The hint about "paralleling" a signed U.S. highway for miles made me stop and think 'why would a highway parallel a signed U.S. highway for so long, and be near a body of water? That's what made me guess the Columbia River in round 4, which meant I knew they were talking about Washington 14...
Also, I knew it had to be in a state park, not a national park, so I checked out all of the state parks in Washington in that corridor... I saw that Beacon Rock had a Lewis & Clark connection, so I made a leap of faith.
I still never found the hint in the store--I hunted around but had no idea what I would be looking for. Did anyone else find a hint there?
Chris
Not me, Chris. Was there a t-shirt from the park in there????
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Is the cache located in Crow Butte State Park?
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Is the body of water Crater Lake in Oregon?
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Is the cache located in California?
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Is the cache located inside a National Park?
Matt Smallwood
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I didn't know Airstream built RV's too, Denny...I thought they only built campers....color me surprised.
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Hi - you're correct, I'm not Geocacher.
I thought you were at first, Becky. I forgot that the message wasn't part of the newsletter.
I'm glad it didn't disqualify me from asking another question in Round 1.....LOL. Thanks for the clarification, Becky. -
Is the cache located east of the Mississippi River?
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Okay, so has Round 1 begun yet, Becky? I want to ask a question so badly.......
Wait, I just realized that the user "Geocacher" is NOT Becky? Am I correct?
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Pat,
Just PM me clues...I won't tell.
Okay, so has Round 1 begun yet, Becky? I want to ask a question so badly.......
Car Ferries
in Bridges & Tunnels
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There is still a small ferry near Leesburg, Va., crosses the Potomac River about 80 miles upstream of the DC area. Sounds similiar to the Kentucky ferry...like 4 car capacity. I was surprised it was still in service two summers ago.